Does character matter to evangelicals any more?

[BULLDOG]

You think Christians should be voting for the Baby Killer Cult instead?

I think your absurd attempt to label others as that is petty and childish.

 

[Nostra]

I think your absurd attempt to label others as that is petty and childish.

NEWSFLASH: I don't care what you think.

HTH

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

 

[BULLDOG]

NEWSFLASH: I don't care what you think.

HTH

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Yet you feel the need to respond every time'

 

[DonGlock26]

History

When Southern Baptists Were Pro-Choice​

July 17, 2014
by Joshua Holland
Conventional wisdom holds that the rise of the religious right as a political force to be reckoned with during the 1970s and 1980s was driven by conservative Christians’ intense opposition to the Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade. But Dartmouth College’s Randall Balmer writes that “the abortion myth quickly collapses under historical scrutiny.” He notes that “it wasn’t until 1979 — a full six years after Roe — that evangelical leaders, at the behest of conservative activist Paul Weyrich, seized on abortion not for moral reasons, but …. because the anti-abortion crusade was more palatable than the religious right’s real motive: protecting segregated schools.”

When Roe was first decided, most of the Southern evangelicals who today make up the backbone of the anti-abortion movement believed that abortion was a deeply personal issue in which government shouldn’t play a role. Some were hesitant to take a position on abortion because they saw it as a “Catholic issue,” and worried about the influence of Catholic teachings on American religious observance.

Shortly after the decision was handed down, The Baptist Press, a wire service run by the Southern Baptist Convention — the biggest Evangelical organization in the US — ran an op-ed praising the ruling. “Religious liberty, human equality and justice are advanced by the Supreme Court abortion decision,” read the January 31, 1973, piece by W. Barry Garrett, The Baptist Press’s Washington bureau chief.


[...]

When Southern Baptists Were Pro-Choice | BillMoyers.com

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You are claiming that Southern Baptists were pro choice based on one opinion piece reporting on another opinion piece?

 

[Nostra]

Yet you feel the need to respond every time'

 

[BULLDOG]

You are claiming that Southern Baptists were pro choice based on one opinion piece reporting on another opinion piece?

No. That piece was just the beginning.. It took right wing Politian's and and unethical religious leaders trading favors to grow it into the issue it became.

 

[playtime]

You are claiming that Southern Baptists were pro choice based on one opinion piece reporting on another opinion piece?

i'm not claiming anything.

it was a fact, you poorly educated MAGAt that donny loves long time.

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Date: June 1, 1971
Event(s): 1971 Annual Meeting
Topic(s): abortion, sanctity of life

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WHEREAS, Christians in the American society today are faced with difficult decisions about abortion; and

WHEREAS, Some advocate that there be no abortion legislation, thus making the decision a purely private matter between a woman and her doctor; and

WHEREAS, Others advocate no legal abortion, or would permit abortion only if the life of the mother is threatened;

Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that this Convention express the belief that society has a responsibility to affirm through the laws of the state a high view of the sanctity of human life, including fetal life, in order to protect those who cannot protect themselves; and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother
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Southern Baptist Convention Resolutions on Abortion​

Resolution On Abortion, adopted at the SBC convention, June 1971:


WHEREAS, Christians in the American society today are faced with difficult decisions about abortion; and
WHEREAS, Some advocate that there be no abortion legislation, thus making the decision a purely private matter between a woman and her doctor; and
WHEREAS, Others advocate no legal abortion, or would permit abortion only if the life of the mother is threatened;
Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that this Convention express the belief that society has a responsibility to affirm through the laws of the state a high view of the sanctity of human life, including fetal life, in order to protect those who cannot protect themselves; and
Be it further RESOLVED, That we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother

Resolution On Abortion And Sanctity Of Human Life, adopted at the SBC convention, June 1974:

WHEREAS, Southern Baptists have historically held a high view of the sanctity of human life, and
WHEREAS, The messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in St. Louis in 1971 adopted overwhelmingly a resolution on abortion, and
WHEREAS, That resolution reflected a middle ground between the extreme of abortion on demand and the opposite extreme of all abortion as murder, and
WHEREAS, That resolution dealt responsibly from a Christian perspective with complexities of abortion problems in contemporary society;
Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that we reaffirm the resolution on the subject adopted by the messengers to the St. Louis Southern Baptist Convention meeting in 1971, and
Be it further RESOLVED, that we continue to seek God's guidance through prayer and study in order to bring about solutions to continuing abortion problems in our society.
Southern Baptist Convention Resolutions on Abortion

 

[Nostra]

No. That piece was just the beginning.. It took right wing Politian's and and unethical religious leaders trading favors to grow it into the issue it became.

Ethics from a scumbag who shits on dead children cuz ORANGE MAN BAD?

Pass.

 

[DonGlock26]

i'm not claiming anything.

it was a fact, you poorly educated MAGAt that donny loves long time.

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Date: June 1, 1971
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WHEREAS, Christians in the American society today are faced with difficult decisions about abortion; and

WHEREAS, Some advocate that there be no abortion legislation, thus making the decision a purely private matter between a woman and her doctor; and

WHEREAS, Others advocate no legal abortion, or would permit abortion only if the life of the mother is threatened;

Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that this Convention express the belief that society has a responsibility to affirm through the laws of the state a high view of the sanctity of human life, including fetal life, in order to protect those who cannot protect themselves; and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother
Resolution On Abortion - SBC.net

Southern Baptist Convention Resolutions on Abortion​

Resolution On Abortion, adopted at the SBC convention, June 1971:


WHEREAS, Christians in the American society today are faced with difficult decisions about abortion; and
WHEREAS, Some advocate that there be no abortion legislation, thus making the decision a purely private matter between a woman and her doctor; and
WHEREAS, Others advocate no legal abortion, or would permit abortion only if the life of the mother is threatened;
Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that this Convention express the belief that society has a responsibility to affirm through the laws of the state a high view of the sanctity of human life, including fetal life, in order to protect those who cannot protect themselves; and
Be it further RESOLVED, That we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother

Resolution On Abortion And Sanctity Of Human Life, adopted at the SBC convention, June 1974:

WHEREAS, Southern Baptists have historically held a high view of the sanctity of human life, and
WHEREAS, The messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in St. Louis in 1971 adopted overwhelmingly a resolution on abortion, and
WHEREAS, That resolution reflected a middle ground between the extreme of abortion on demand and the opposite extreme of all abortion as murder, and
WHEREAS, That resolution dealt responsibly from a Christian perspective with complexities of abortion problems in contemporary society;
Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that we reaffirm the resolution on the subject adopted by the messengers to the St. Louis Southern Baptist Convention meeting in 1971, and
Be it further RESOLVED, that we continue to seek God's guidance through prayer and study in order to bring about solutions to continuing abortion problems in our society.
Southern Baptist Convention Resolutions on Abortion

So, they were never in support of abortion on demand. Thank you.

 

[playtime]

So, they were never in support of abortion on demand. Thank you.

goal post moving is not yer strong suit & they were 'on demand ' when the pregnant female feels justified for her own personal biz'nez - as it should have been.

yer welcome.

 

[DonGlock26]

No. That piece was just the beginning.. It took right wing Politian's and and unethical religious leaders trading favors to grow it into the issue it became.

As Playtime showed us, the SB's were never for abortion on demand.

 

[DonGlock26]

goal post moving is not yer strong suit & they were 'on demand ' when the pregnant female feels justified for her own personal biz'nez - as it should have been.

yer welcome.

The SB's never supported personal biz'nez abortion per your own source.

 

[playtime]

The SB's never supported personal biz'nez abortion per your own source.

evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother

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being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy certainly qualifies as a mental, emotional trauma.

therefore ... abortion on demand. you honestly think a female is gonna acyallu say that it's just an inconvenience & not worthy of distress/

m'k ... you go with that.

 

[DonGlock26]

evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother

...


being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy certainly qualifies as a mental, emotional trauma.

therefore ... abortion on demand. you honestly think a female is gonna acyallu say that it's just an inconvenience & not worthy of distress/

m'k ... you go with that.

They never said any of that.

 

[playtime]

They never said any of that.

they didn't have to... did they have regulations in their resolutions addressing as to how they can prove it's not under their guidelines?

nope.

when jerry falwell took over & segregation was no longer an issue they could fight - the evangelisticals & his moral majority turned to abortion.

 

[Meathead]

they didn't have to... did they have regulations in their resolutions addressing as to how they can prove it's not under their guidelines?

nope.

when jerry falwell took over & segregation was no longer an issue they could fight - the evangelisticals & his moral majority turned to abortion.

What about ***'s "rights"?

 

[DonGlock26]

they didn't have to...

Right. Because they never intended to support abortion on demand. They stated when they supported it under limited circumstances and later backed away from even that.

 

[playtime]

What about ***'s "rights"?

jerry falwell went after the sit com SOAP partly because of the homogay's portrayal as almost human.

oh the horror!

 

[playtime]

Right. Because they never intended to support abortion on demand. They stated when they supported it under limited circumstances and later backed away from even that.

& yet they did nothing to lobby congress to change it.

lol....

 

[Meathead]

jerry falwell went after the sit com SOAP partly because of the homogay's portrayal as almost human.

oh the horror!

As a ******, I suspect you have a problem discerning fact from fiction. You probably think you're a woman and still have not idea what a woman is.