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Does Anyone Have A Basic Financial Model For Healthcare ?

Sun Devil 92

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I have been thinking about doing a spreadsheet or writing a program to look at basic insurance and healthcare costs.

I was wondering if anyone had one already.

It is so strange to me that we see so few numbers (other than the 50,000 who die each year even though we can't produce a corpse from lack of health insurance or the 2500 a year Obamacare was suppose to save me).

I enjoy basic models. Supply and demand, overall macro models in the aggregate.

Anyone got anything ?
 

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Can I ask you why the assumption and measurement of death to life
is based on "whether someone has health insurance"

What is wrong with just assessing how many people have
* access to a comfortable level of health care
* can afford to get help to cover emergencies
as well as access to basic maintenance and preventative care

What about the TOTAL COST

Why can't we talk about what it takes to provide
SUSTAINABLE health care, like how people can
access basic education, and then need financing for the higher education that costs more.

the model I'm looking at is based on the idea of
setting up more medical programs, where in exchange for medical
and nursing degrees, the interns and residents serve in public health.
So they provide services to the public as part of their education and training,
and all this is supervised through schools, so the pools of trained providers rotate out.

Also, I'd like to propose for the resources to fund health care to come from
* Democrats reforming the wasteful failed prison and mental health system into
medical treatment programs and facilities to serve the broader population, not just paying for inmates and wards
* Republicans reforming the VA to first manage Veteran demands and then expanding
and replicating the system to serve the greater public

Why can't we look at what we are already spending, and find a better
way to redirect the resources where everyone can afford access and participation
 
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Can I ask you why the assumption and measurement of death to life
is based on "whether someone has health insurance"

What is wrong with just assessing how many people have
* access to a comfortable level of health care
* can afford to get help to cover emergencies
as well as access to basic maintenance and preventative care

What about the TOTAL COST

Why can't we talk about what it takes to provide
SUSTAINABLE health care, like how people can
access basic education, and then need financing for the higher education that costs more.

the model I'm looking at is based on the idea of
setting up more medical programs, where in exchange for medical
and nursing degrees, the interns and residents serve in public health.
So they provide services to the public as part of their education and training,
and all this is supervised through schools, so the pools of trained providers rotate out.

Also, I'd like to propose for the resources to fund health care to come from
* Democrats reforming the wasteful failed prison and mental health system into
medical treatment programs and facilities to serve the broader population, not just paying for inmates and wards
* Republicans reforming the VA to first manage Veteran demands and then expanding
and replicating the system to serve the greater public

Why can't we look at what we are already spending, and find a better
way to redirect the resources where everyone can afford access and participation

O.K.

You've asked some good questions.

Now answer them.

I have not been able to find a simple model, with numbers, that addresses this.

I have been looking on the net. If I find something I'll post it.
 
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This is somewhat telling.

I certainly work only off empirical evidence.

But some claim that Obamacare should work/not work based on fundamentals.

Nobody has a fundamental model that they can share.
 

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This is somewhat telling.

I certainly work only off empirical evidence.

But some claim that Obamacare should work/not work based on fundamentals.

Nobody has a fundamental model that they can share.

Greenbeard has provided a number of not only models, but actual events, and you lot dismiss them because the source doesn't say what you want it to say.

Why should anyone make an effort to do your research for you? Show us the model or models that confirm your preconceived notions and then we can talk.
 
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As I stated before, nobody has presented any models for healthcare.
 
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In thinking about what a simple model might look like, you'd need some kind of prioritization algorithm to determine when and how much people would spend on health care in the context of all there is to spend money on.
 
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I looked back through this thread.

I even looked at ignored posts (Aironhead).

I love it !

Go find your own models.....

We don't have one, but we can tell you how great things are....we just don't know why.

And Greenbeard has NOT posted any models.

Pure bulls%%t.
 

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