Does a business that advertises itself as a gun free zone deserve to be attacked?

[Siete]

Does a business that advertises itself as a gun free zone deserve to be attacked?

and their stupidity continues to progress when you thought they reached maximum capacity....

wow ..

 

[paulitician]

No. But it is pretty stupid. I won't be hangin at those businesses.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Nutbags are afraid to go anywhere without their metal manhood to protect them.

Just what we need. A bunch of Barney Fife's fumbling with their junk whenever they see a kid in a hoodie with his hands in his pockets.

 

[paulitician]

Nutbags are afraid to go anywhere without their metal manhood to protect them.

Just what we need. A bunch of Barney Fife's fumbling with their junk whenever they see a kid in a hoodie with his hands in his pockets.

Don't own a firearm. Be a 'Gun Free Zone' moron. That's your call. Problem solved.

 

[Siete]

so how many people have been shot in a gun free business ?

the news stations and news papers aren't exactly full of headlines about it.

name me ONE ...

more RW fear BS...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

so how many people have been shot in a gun free business ?

the news stations and news papers aren't exactly full of headlines about it.

name me ONE ...

more RW fear BS...

WTF are you talking about? Just about every mass shooting took place in a gun free zone.

 

[2aguy]

so how many people have been shot in a gun free business ?

the news stations and news papers aren't exactly full of headlines about it.

name me ONE ...

more RW fear BS...

Here is a guy robbed leaving a gun free zone...since the criminal knew he was unarmed...

Yes…..leaving a gun free zone means you are "gun free" when you leave the zone…and that is just what criminals like….you are vetted for crime by the gun free policies of gun grabbers….

And get this….the guy gave the robber what he wanted, and the robber shot him anyway….

Sooo…

Baseball Fan Shot While Leaving Gun Free Stadium AFTER Complying With Robbers, No One Is Around To Protect Him | Concealed Nation

ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI — A 43-year-old man was leaving a Cardinals game at Busch Stadium with his girlfriend Saturday when the couple were robbed at gunpoint.

They complied, and were shot at while trying to run away after handing over their valuables. One of the bullets struck the 43-year-old, Christopher Sanna, in the back.

The bullet damaged Sanna’s spinal cord and it is unlikely he will ever be able to walk again.

“They said it was shattered, and no surgery could repair it,” said his mother, Candis Sanna. “They said he could eventually get a little feeling back, but there was no hope for him to walk. It’s horrible.”

This incident is a sad reminder of how compliance with an armed robber can still have devastating consequences.

“They turned to run away, but they didn’t make it very far,” Candis Sanna said. “As soon as they gave them the stuff, they were going to try to run away, but he shot them. They were within arm’s reach.”

So…….which anti gun extremist self defense technique saved this man…..let's review the 3 anti gun extremist self defense techniques as applied to this situation:

1) hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is kind….

2) Hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is incompetent…

3) Hope that when you are robbed by a sociopath who is going to shoot you anyway doesn't kill you because of pure, dumb luck…..

Okay…..

1) Apparently the kindness of a sociopath who was going to shoot his victim was not in evidence here

2) if the robber was planning on killing the victim…he did shoot him after all….he only shot him in the spine and crippled him for life…so a win for the anti gun extremists, no one was killed…right? And so we could say the robber was incompetent….

3) pure dumb luck…if surviving being shot, but being left paralyzed is lucky….so sure….number 3 applies as well….

 

[2aguy]

so how many people have been shot in a gun free business ?

the news stations and news papers aren't exactly full of headlines about it.

name me ONE ...

more RW fear BS...

Yeah.....I remember one time when the headlines covered it for a full weekend....I do believe this was a gun free zone business....if you look closely you can see what happens when a business is gun free.....and the bad guys don't care....

 

[Siete]

so how many people have been shot in a gun free business ?

the news stations and news papers aren't exactly full of headlines about it.

name me ONE ...

more RW fear BS...

Here is a guy robbed leaving a gun free zone...since the criminal knew he was unarmed...

Yes…..leaving a gun free zone means you are "gun free" when you leave the zone…and that is just what criminals like….you are vetted for crime by the gun free policies of gun grabbers….

And get this….the guy gave the robber what he wanted, and the robber shot him anyway….

Sooo…

Baseball Fan Shot While Leaving Gun Free Stadium AFTER Complying With Robbers, No One Is Around To Protect Him | Concealed Nation

ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI — A 43-year-old man was leaving a Cardinals game at Busch Stadium with his girlfriend Saturday when the couple were robbed at gunpoint.

They complied, and were shot at while trying to run away after handing over their valuables. One of the bullets struck the 43-year-old, Christopher Sanna, in the back.

The bullet damaged Sanna’s spinal cord and it is unlikely he will ever be able to walk again.

“They said it was shattered, and no surgery could repair it,” said his mother, Candis Sanna. “They said he could eventually get a little feeling back, but there was no hope for him to walk. It’s horrible.”

This incident is a sad reminder of how compliance with an armed robber can still have devastating consequences.

“They turned to run away, but they didn’t make it very far,” Candis Sanna said. “As soon as they gave them the stuff, they were going to try to run away, but he shot them. They were within arm’s reach.”

So…….which anti gun extremist self defense technique saved this man…..let's review the 3 anti gun extremist self defense techniques as applied to this situation:

1) hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is kind….

2) Hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is incompetent…

3) Hope that when you are robbed by a sociopath who is going to shoot you anyway doesn't kill you because of pure, dumb luck…..

Okay…..

1) Apparently the kindness of a sociopath who was going to shoot his victim was not in evidence here

2) if the robber was planning on killing the victim…he did shoot him after all….he only shot him in the spine and crippled him for life…so a win for the anti gun extremists, no one was killed…right? And so we could say the robber was incompetent….

3) pure dumb luck…if surviving being shot, but being left paralyzed is lucky….so sure….number 3 applies as well….

a stadium?.... gee.

wtf are YOU talking about?

what about gun free businesses like the Dairy Queen or CVS Pharmacy ??

 

[2aguy]

so how many people have been shot in a gun free business ?

the news stations and news papers aren't exactly full of headlines about it.

name me ONE ...

more RW fear BS...

Here is a guy robbed leaving a gun free zone...since the criminal knew he was unarmed...

Yes…..leaving a gun free zone means you are "gun free" when you leave the zone…and that is just what criminals like….you are vetted for crime by the gun free policies of gun grabbers….

And get this….the guy gave the robber what he wanted, and the robber shot him anyway….

Sooo…

Baseball Fan Shot While Leaving Gun Free Stadium AFTER Complying With Robbers, No One Is Around To Protect Him | Concealed Nation

ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI — A 43-year-old man was leaving a Cardinals game at Busch Stadium with his girlfriend Saturday when the couple were robbed at gunpoint.

They complied, and were shot at while trying to run away after handing over their valuables. One of the bullets struck the 43-year-old, Christopher Sanna, in the back.

The bullet damaged Sanna’s spinal cord and it is unlikely he will ever be able to walk again.

“They said it was shattered, and no surgery could repair it,” said his mother, Candis Sanna. “They said he could eventually get a little feeling back, but there was no hope for him to walk. It’s horrible.”

This incident is a sad reminder of how compliance with an armed robber can still have devastating consequences.

“They turned to run away, but they didn’t make it very far,” Candis Sanna said. “As soon as they gave them the stuff, they were going to try to run away, but he shot them. They were within arm’s reach.”

So…….which anti gun extremist self defense technique saved this man…..let's review the 3 anti gun extremist self defense techniques as applied to this situation:

1) hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is kind….

2) Hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is incompetent…

3) Hope that when you are robbed by a sociopath who is going to shoot you anyway doesn't kill you because of pure, dumb luck…..

Okay…..

1) Apparently the kindness of a sociopath who was going to shoot his victim was not in evidence here

2) if the robber was planning on killing the victim…he did shoot him after all….he only shot him in the spine and crippled him for life…so a win for the anti gun extremists, no one was killed…right? And so we could say the robber was incompetent….

3) pure dumb luck…if surviving being shot, but being left paralyzed is lucky….so sure….number 3 applies as well….

a stadium?.... gee.

wtf are YOU talking about?

what about gun free businesses like the Dairy Queen or CVS Pharmacy ??

Do movie theaters count...or will you move the goal posts on that....

Lafayette Theater Shooter Opened Fire In A "Gun Free" Zone - The Truth About Guns

 

[thereisnospoon]

Think about it. If you're a criminal looking for a place to rob, or a terrorist looking for a "soft" target, who do you think they're going to go after? A gun free sign is just asking for trouble. Isn't it?

No one deserves to be attacked. However, it is illogical to not take the necessary precautions.
For example, let's say Joe Schmoe is opposed to gun ownership. He owns a business. He prefers his customers not carry firearms. The prudent thing to do it NOT post a sign but let anyone entering Joe's business that carrying of firearms is not permitted. His property. His right.

 

[2aguy]

so how many people have been shot in a gun free business ?

the news stations and news papers aren't exactly full of headlines about it.

name me ONE ...

more RW fear BS...

Here is a guy robbed leaving a gun free zone...since the criminal knew he was unarmed...

Yes…..leaving a gun free zone means you are "gun free" when you leave the zone…and that is just what criminals like….you are vetted for crime by the gun free policies of gun grabbers….

And get this….the guy gave the robber what he wanted, and the robber shot him anyway….

Sooo…

Baseball Fan Shot While Leaving Gun Free Stadium AFTER Complying With Robbers, No One Is Around To Protect Him | Concealed Nation

ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI — A 43-year-old man was leaving a Cardinals game at Busch Stadium with his girlfriend Saturday when the couple were robbed at gunpoint.

They complied, and were shot at while trying to run away after handing over their valuables. One of the bullets struck the 43-year-old, Christopher Sanna, in the back.

The bullet damaged Sanna’s spinal cord and it is unlikely he will ever be able to walk again.

“They said it was shattered, and no surgery could repair it,” said his mother, Candis Sanna. “They said he could eventually get a little feeling back, but there was no hope for him to walk. It’s horrible.”

This incident is a sad reminder of how compliance with an armed robber can still have devastating consequences.

“They turned to run away, but they didn’t make it very far,” Candis Sanna said. “As soon as they gave them the stuff, they were going to try to run away, but he shot them. They were within arm’s reach.”

So…….which anti gun extremist self defense technique saved this man…..let's review the 3 anti gun extremist self defense techniques as applied to this situation:

1) hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is kind….

2) Hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is incompetent…

3) Hope that when you are robbed by a sociopath who is going to shoot you anyway doesn't kill you because of pure, dumb luck…..

Okay…..

1) Apparently the kindness of a sociopath who was going to shoot his victim was not in evidence here

2) if the robber was planning on killing the victim…he did shoot him after all….he only shot him in the spine and crippled him for life…so a win for the anti gun extremists, no one was killed…right? And so we could say the robber was incompetent….

3) pure dumb luck…if surviving being shot, but being left paralyzed is lucky….so sure….number 3 applies as well….

a stadium?.... gee.

wtf are YOU talking about?

what about gun free businesses like the Dairy Queen or CVS Pharmacy ??

Hmmmmm....seems to me there was another gun free zone theater....was it in Colorado....where there was an incident.......and it too was a "gun free zone..."

Colorado theater called ‘gun-free’ zone

Gun advocates say the movie theater where a Colorado gunman opened fire Friday, killing 12 and wounded 58, has a strict policy against firearms on its premises – even for patrons with concealed handgun permits.

Cinemark Holdings Inc. owns 459 theaters and 5,181 screens in the U.S. and Latin America – including the Century 16 movie theater in Aurora, Colo., scene of the mass shooting.


Read more at Colorado theater called ‘gun-free’ zone

 

[thereisnospoon]

Does a business that advertises itself as a gun free zone deserve to be attacked?


Of course not.

On the other hand....

If a business advertises itself as a "Gun Free Zone" and puts up signs forbidding customers from bringing guns inside...

...and some whacko barges in, holds up the customers, and then shoots one....

..should that customer (or his next of kin) sue the business for depriving the customer of his right to defend himself and then failing to protect the unarmed customer, resulting in his injury or death?

Obviously the person most at fault is the whacko who pulled the trigger.

But does the business deserve at least some liability for what happened?

If a business forbids customers the right to carry the means to defend themselves, is the business then responsible for defending them instead?

In our litigious society, it is probable that a victim in this instance would be able to hire an attorney to take the case.

 

[2aguy]

And an oldy....but a gun free zone...

Luby's cafe.....Suzanah Gratia Hupp was required by law to leave her gun in her car to into the restaurant....

Luby's shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The law had been campaigned for by Suzanna Hupp, who was present at the shooting where both of her parents were killed. She later testified that she would have liked to have her gun during the shooting, but said, "it was a hundred feet away in my car." (She had feared that if she was caught carrying her gun she might lose her chiropractor's license.)[12] She testified across the country in support of concealed handgun laws, and was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1996.[14]

A simple pink granite memorial stands behind the Killeen Community Center with the date of the event and the names of those killed.

 

[Siete]

stupid ass thread and stupid ass RW's arguing about it.

here;s the damn goal post ...

I'm pro gun. I have more guns than most RW's have IQ points. I have a carry permit, and several pieces that I can, and do carry.

I'll make you famous.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Think about it. If you're a criminal looking for a place to rob, or a terrorist looking for a "soft" target, who do you think they're going to go after? A gun free sign is just asking for trouble. Isn't it?

No one deserves to be attacked. Though putting up such placards or indicators isn't doing anything for your security that's for damn sure.

 

[Siete]

And an oldy....but a gun free zone...

Luby's cafe.....Suzanah Gratia Hupp was required by law to leave her gun in her car to into the restaurant....

Luby's shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

did Lubys have a gun free sign on the front door ? That's been a LONG time ago, Mr Goal Post.

 

[2aguy]

so how many people have been shot in a gun free business ?

the news stations and news papers aren't exactly full of headlines about it.

name me ONE ...

more RW fear BS...

Have we shown you enough carnage caused by gun free zones......? Do you see how stupid your post is?

 

[2aguy]

And an oldy....but a gun free zone...

Luby's cafe.....Suzanah Gratia Hupp was required by law to leave her gun in her car to into the restaurant....

Luby's shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

did Lubys have a gun free sign on the front door ? That's been a LONG time ago, Mr Goal Post.

that is one of the incidents that started the concealed carry movement nationwide....and yes...it was a gun free zone by law......

 

[WheelieAddict]

No. Nobody in that restaurant should be attacked. I'm already seeing some childish responses on the subject.

Nobody in that restaurant should be attacked due to the positions the establishment has on guns. So knock it off.

Agreed. Nobody should be attacked for any reason. But if a person is attacked in a gun-free zone, they have to blame themselves at least a little. I don't do business with places that have those signs on the window. That's not to say if I see one of those signs, I'm going to turn around and go home. But I know I won't go back to that business.

So with your dumb ass logic, if a person is attacked in a pro gun zone they should blame that. Your extreme idiocy is not helping gun rights advocates.

Idiocy is doing business that has a "WELCOME" sign to criminals. Most people with common sense understand that a criminal will commit crime in the easiest area to do so. Given a choice, a criminal will not elect to pick a place where they may end up injured or dead. They would rather commit crimes in places where everybody is a victim.

Your position is the same in reverse as someone that would blame a gun friendly zone or allowing carry for a gun crime. You would be better served promoting resposible gun ownership and reasonable carry laws (cant carry everywhere you want). Insisting guns be allowed everywhere is just going to piss people off and portray gun rights advocates as unreasonable.

Wow....you didn't think that through....allowing guns in your business is not allowing crimes to take place...it is still against the law to rob a business....and a criminal who has a gun illegally has no right to carry that illegal gun into any business let alone walk down the street with it.

I'm simply saying blaming a no gun policy is as stupid as blaming a gun allowed policy if a criminal commits a gun crime in a business.

I am not advocating for guns being banned at all. A business owner should be able to set their policy. They should not be shamed/blamed for allowing or banning guns if a crime takes place. For instance, if an accidental shooting takes place where guns are allowed the pro gun policy should not be blamed, the gun owner should.