Which ones where held back then as the Palestinians don't own anything on the Jewish side of the armistice lines. The Israeli's met the Palestinians demands to the letter of no Israeli's inside gaza and removal of all Jewish structures.
Do you think that if the blockade to Gaza was lifted today that the attacks against Israel would cea
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Which ones where held back then as the Palestinians don't own anything on the Jewish side of the armistice lines. The Israeli's met the Palestinians demands to the letter of no Israeli's inside gaza and removal of all Jewish structures.
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So then, where is that UN arms embargo?Actually it's spot on. You think it's okay for Palestinian terrorists to receive arms so that they can commit more terrorism with it, and you equate THAT with Israel, a totally legitimate country, buying and selling arms. And you wonder why the UN frowns upon that! You're kidding, right? Palestinian terrorists don't need more arms, they need to be wiped off this planet.
LINK or will it show that you are a complete idiot when you cant find one. What doors where left unlocked that would normally be unlocked anyway.
As my links have shown the Israeli's have always tried for a peaceful solution, they don't force the Palestinians to fire illegal rockets at Israeli children causing an armed response.
Islamonazi morons don't have any intelligence at all and only see things the way they have been brainwashed to see them
Because they still think that the world will force the Jews to leave Israel and make themselves stateless again. You would think after 67 years of trying they would have realised they will just keep on failing. Time for them to realise that their god is dead and so has deserted them, leaving them to be killed of because of their own stupidity.
Ask hamas why they still subscribe to that dogma and spew it out every couple of weeks as if they will ever manage to do so. Unless they are waiting for Iran to give them a nuclear device that will turn the whole area into a glass parking lot.
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Which ones where held back then as the Palestinians don't own anything on the Jewish side of the armistice lines. The Israeli's met the Palestinians demands to the letter of no Israeli's inside gaza and removal of all Jewish structures.
jillian
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in answer to your question... no
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You posted a link?
Easement is one thing...
The iron fist with which Israel holds Gaza is the issue...
Regular incursions into Gaza by the IDF, the control of air, land and sea, they all go to make up a real reason for the continued rocket fire...
Your "easement" deflection is not relevant to the OP
I don't need to as your links are from islamonazi propaganda sources and not fro the UK government.
The first link actually says
We are aware of Israeli forces responding to illegal rocket fire from Gaza with 29 strikes since the 26 August 2014 Gaza ceasefire agreement. According to figures from the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Israeli forces have opened fire into the Gaza Access Restricted Areas on land and sea on at least 696 occasions since then
Second link says
"We are aware of Israeli forces responding to illegal rocket fire from Gaza with 29 strikes since the 26 August 2014 Gaza ceasefire agreement.
Third link again says
“We are aware of Israeli forces responding to illegal rocket fire from Gaza with 29 strikes since the 26 August 2014 Gaza ceasefire agreement.
Didn't you find this strange that all 3 links had the exact same words, and came from the exact same source, that happens to be a proven Jew hatred site that goes by the name of IMEMC
So the reality is Israel has responded to illegal attacks by the Palestinians on 696 occasions according to your links, proving that it is the Palestinians that are in breach of the ceasefire terms and conditions
CHECK AND MATE TO ME I BELIEVE IN 4 MOVES
So then, where is that UN arms embargo?Actually it's spot on. You think it's okay for Palestinian terrorists to receive arms so that they can commit more terrorism with it, and you equate THAT with Israel, a totally legitimate country, buying and selling arms. And you wonder why the UN frowns upon that! You're kidding, right? Palestinian terrorists don't need more arms, they need to be wiped off this planet.
In the UN charter if you look, or bother to read the links provided for your education on the truth
Deflecting again as your words were " do you think If the blockade was lifted the attacks against Israel would stop" The link I gave proves that the Palestinians have no intention of stopping the attacks until Israel is destroyed and the Jews wiped out. Because the link proves that you are wrong you are now changing the rules and making racist claims hoping to get your thread removed and other posters banned. The blockade could not be lifted in one move as you well know, and would need to be brought in in stages. I see you are unable to comment on the fact that every easement is still in place and the goods banned from entering gaza grow less each month and still the illegal attacks take place. proving that it is indeed the Palestinians at fault and to blame for the problems and violence
Says the same thing that the area called Jewish Palestine was set aside for the Jews for their NATIONal home, just as the area called arab Palestine was set aside to be the muslim homeland.
See here
The Avalon Project : The Palestine Mandate
The Palestine Mandate
The Council of the League of Nations:
Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them; and
Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country; and
Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country; and
Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have selected His Britannic Majesty as the Mandatory for Palestine; and
Whereas the mandate in respect of Palestine has been formulated in the following terms and submitted to the Council of the League for approval; and
Whereas His Britannic Majesty has accepted the mandate in respect of Palestine and undertaken to exercise it on behalf of the League of Nations in conformity with the following provisions; and
Whereas by the afore-mentioned Article 22 (paragraph 8), it is provided that the degree of authority, control or administration to be exercised by the Mandatory, not having been previously agreed upon by the Members of the League, shall be explicitly defined by the Council of the League Of Nations;
ART. 2.
The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.
ART. 3.
The Mandatory shall, so far as circumstances permit, encourage local autonomy.
ART. 4.
An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration to assist and take part in the development of the country.
The Zionist organization, so long as its organization and constitution are in the opinion of the Mandatory appropriate, shall be recognised as such agency. It shall take steps in consultation with His Britannic Majesty's Government to secure the co-operation of all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home.
ART. 5.
The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of the Government of any foreign Power.
ART. 6.
The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.
ART. 7.
The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.
All the above was following the International laws of the time as much as you anti semitic Jew haters want to change the laws and enforce the ones enacted 70 years after this treaty was signed.
Imagine the scenario if Israel shut up shop and moved out of the M.E and into Europe or America taking their wealth and jobs with them. The muslims would be up in arms because they will be even worse of than they are now. The likes of penny and monte would be blaming the Jews for the state of the arab muslims starving and freezing because they no longer have any aid to fall back on. The Palestinians would die in their thousands every day and the world would see their complete disregard for the Temple mount once the Jews had left. Giving them what they want is not the same thing as giving them what they need and team Palestine needs to understand this before they shoot of their mouths about how bad the Zionists are.
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Billo_Really
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If there was only 29 rocket attacks to 696 Israeli attacks, what were the remaining 667 Israeli attacks responding to?
Replied like only an islamomoron can reply. The blockade is legal and was put in place following IHL and the Geneva conventions. It has been eased over the years so that articles that other nations would see as dual purpose and so banned are allowed to enter gaza. The IDF operates inside the Israeli side of the armistice line again according to International law and does not do anything that infringes the Palestinians human rights ( what ever they are as team Palestine has refused to give an account of these rights ) Until the Palestinians act in accordance with International law and the charter of the UN the blockade will stay and the UN will support it. Don't like having to sit back and obey international laws do you, which is why you make them up to support your islamonazi agenda.
Billo_Really
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Why do you say no?
jillian
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Billo_Really
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Are you telling me you can't state the reason you drew that conclusion?really, terrorist supporter?
Wrong the blockade was put in place because of increasing Palestinian terrorist attacks from gaza.
Official reason as follows Following the takeover, Egypt and Israel largely sealed their border crossings with Gaza, on the grounds that Fatah had fled and was no longer providing security on the Palestinian side.
Who has said this is the case as I cant find any mention of this in the UN records or in the trials judged by the ICJ/ICC
All I have found is islamonazi propaganda sites and hamas.
Which was as a direct result of hamas sending terrorists into Israel to mass murder Jews.
Official records show
According to the Egyptian-brokered agreement, Israel promised to halt air strikes and other attacks, while in return, there would not be rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza. Once the ceasefire held, Israel was to gradually begin to ease its punishing blockade of Gaza.[2]
During the initial week of the ceasefire, militants fired rockets on Israel and broke the terms of the ceasefire.[3] During the next 5 months of the ceasefire, Gazan attacks decreased significantly for a total of 19 rocket and 18 mortar shell launchings
On 4 November 2008, Israel raided Gaza, killing six Hamas militants. The Israeli military claimed the target of the raid was a tunnel that they said Hamas was planning to use to capture Israeli soldiers positioned on the border fence 250m away.[10] Hamas officials claimed that the tunnel was being dug for defensive purposes. Hamas replied to the Israeli attack with a barrage of rocket fire. On December 20, Hamas announced it would not renew the ceasefire
As your links show the attacks where responses to Palestinian attacks, and not unilateral attacks on gaza
How about a link then to these 3 attempts at lasting peace by hamas, and not the ceasefire that is in the favour of hamas.
It did all that in 2005 and the rockets increased, so why will it be any different now. BUT, lets say that Israel did as you say and the terror attacks increased to the point that Israelis were being murdered every day, would you support Israel responding to the attacks in force and carpet bombing the areas of gaza the attacks originated from ?
LOL
I can just picture the pali's debating their response. Not quite sure who to slap or shoot first.
Asking Israel to drop its guard is ludicrous. Its a perfect example of putting the cart before the horse.
The only effective solution will be when Israel takes the bull by the horns and does two things in unison.
1) Throw the UNWRA out of the country and invite the ICRC in with the agreement that they only hire out from a neutral third country to be agreed on. Say Canadians or Chinese, whatever but enough of the Arab Muslim terrorists running aid and arms for the Arab Muslim terrorists
2) Follow the Geneva conventions for the treatment of POWs and civilians.
This isn't actually all that hard once you get rid of the Arab Muslim terrorist run UNWRA.
Cordon off and completely embargo all Arab communities within Israel and set up ICRC aid stations in adjacent heavily militarized determination stations which are designed to assign temporary legal status to those wishing to sign up to receive aid.
Those deemed combatants, having aided combatants or those suspected of engaging in hostile acts against the state exactly as specified under the conventions should be immediately arrested and detained as POWs ready for repatriation to a neutral third country.
Throw the bums out.
Those deemed eligible for aid or civilians "may" be returned to their places of residence at the earliest practicable time. which means they go to an internment camp where aid is distributed within the camp until they can be returned to whatever camp they came from originally.
Israel could solve this problem one camp at a time any time they want. Its just a matter of time.
Repeat as necessary
Problem solved.
It would cost Israel two POW camps one for woman and one for men exactly as specified within the conventions and one internment camp for families although I suppose they could use palestinian taxes to pay for the whole thing. Sweep the palestinian enclaves one at a time.
Not their water as it comes from a spring in another nation hundreds of miles away
Not their olive trees as they grow wild on Israeli land
No permit to build so the house is illegal, and built on Jewish land
What job as the work is in Israel and the Palestinians have caused the lay offs by terrorist attacks.
What land as there is no international treaty showing they have any land
Then he should not be a criminal
Then she should not strap a bomb vest on
Then they should not instigate the bombing of Israel
Having 2,200 kcals is not starvation, it is over feeding to the point of obesity
They humiliate themselves
Yes you are to blame because in 1947 you invaded and tried to wipe out the Jews. Then you decided to engage in terrorism after getting your arse kicked and now you fire illegal rockets that have been deemed to be illegal weapons by the UN, HRW, ICC and ICJ.
No you fired a rocket to which Israel responded, you did not respond to an Israeli attack as the evidence and time lines prove
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