Do you notice how LW never admit their real goal is to overturn the 2nd amendment?

[deanrd]

Why don't they follow the processes of the government and get 2/3 of Congress and 75% of states to overturn the 2nd amendment?

It's because they know it won't happen...so they will continually try to erode it with continuing to reduce our rights.

Why admit to something not true?

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Yea, what Franco said. Can’t you gun toting weirdos understand that if there was no second amendment nobody would ever be murdered again in this country?

Democrats I've never tried to outlaw rifle hunting rifles and shotguns... You people are really brainwashed out of your minds... Change the channel please poor America

No, of course you haven’t. Listen Frances, we all know the lib playbook for killing amendment 2- start with big guns that shoot big bullets really fast, and don’t stop until every BB gun has been melted down.

They will straight up admit it.

The "slippery slope" is a liberal staple.

Ohhhhhh....Noe!

Not the "slippery slope"!

Pelosi Hopes Ban on Bump Stocks Is a 'Slippery Slope' to More Gun Control

"They’re going to say, 'You give them bump stock, it's going to be a slippery slope.' I certainly hope so," she told a reporter at a news conference.

Well done G5000, you are now G50000000

 

[frigidweirdo]

Why don't they follow the processes of the government and get 2/3 of Congress and 75% of states to overturn the 2nd amendment?

It's because they know it won't happen...so they will continually try to erode it with continuing to reduce our rights.

And what's wrong with that? What's wrong with changing the Constitution? There's even a part of the Constitution that allows for change. In fact, the 2A was one of those, hence why it's called an "amendment".

 

[Rustic]

Why don't they follow the processes of the government and get 2/3 of Congress and 75% of states to overturn the 2nd amendment?

It's because they know it won't happen...so they will continually try to erode it with continuing to reduce our rights.

And what's wrong with that? What's wrong with changing the Constitution? There's even a part of the Constitution that allows for change. In fact, the 2A was one of those, hence why it's called an "amendment".

Buy more guns and ammo...

 

[Little-Acorn]

Trying to have background checks for everyone but family members and even doing away with handguns, is not trying to do away with the 2nd Amendment.we need Hunters to kill all these damn deer. But carry on with your ridiculous brainwashed bs, hater dupe.

Pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about...

 

[Little-Acorn]

And what's wrong with that? What's wrong with changing the Constitution? There's even a part of the Constitution that allows for change. In fact, the 2A was one of those, hence why it's called an "amendment".

Nothing at all. Go right ahead and do it!
Let us know how it goes.

 

[radical right]

You need to read the Heller decision....Scalia explains it so even you can understand that you are wrong....

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

How many Republican judges does it take to overturn a left-wing law?
...of their use is invalid. ------- P62-63 Balancing the Right.... We know of no other enumerated constitutional right whose core protection...
Post by: 2aguy, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Politics


SCOTUS leaves gun carry limits in place
...of their use is invalid. ------- P62-63 Balancing the Right.... We know of no other enumerated constitutional right whose core protection...
Post by: 2aguy, Jun 26, 2017 in forum: Politics



repeating old arguments?

 

[frigidweirdo]

And what's wrong with that? What's wrong with changing the Constitution? There's even a part of the Constitution that allows for change. In fact, the 2A was one of those, hence why it's called an "amendment".

Nothing at all. Go right ahead and do it!
Let us know how it goes.

Well, nothing will change in the US because the lines have been drawn and no one will ever get enough power to make an amendment to the Constitution.

But I said there's nothing wrong with wanting to change the Constitution, and you didn't say I was wrong in this.

 

[Rustic]

And what's wrong with that? What's wrong with changing the Constitution? There's even a part of the Constitution that allows for change. In fact, the 2A was one of those, hence why it's called an "amendment".

Nothing at all. Go right ahead and do it!
Let us know how it goes.

Well, nothing will change in the US because the lines have been drawn and no one will ever get enough power to make an amendment to the Constitution.

But I said there's nothing wrong with wanting to change the Constitution, and you didn't say I was wrong in this.

The second amendment is the backbone of the constitution…

 

[radical right]

The second amendment is the backbone of the constitution…

You believe the constitution was born without a spine?

 

[Dale Smith]

Why don't they follow the processes of the government and get 2/3 of Congress and 75% of states to overturn the 2nd amendment?

It's because they know it won't happen...so they will continually try to erode it with continuing to reduce our rights.

And what's wrong with that? What's wrong with changing the Constitution? There's even a part of the Constitution that allows for change. In fact, the 2A was one of those, hence why it's called an "amendment".

So, you think that the serfs should be unarmed? That they should be left with no defense lest a totalitarian style government should be put in place? Do you know that unarmed people to the tune of 160 million have died since the 1900 because they had no way to defend themselves????? Molon Labe.....come and take it, punkinpuss....put yourself on the front line to disarm the American citizenry instead of hiding behind the corporate armed "gubermint" assigned with the task. The last movie I watched where only "da gubermint" had arms was Schindler's List and it didn't work out all that well for the Jews...........step up to the plate and put yourself out front in a "house to house" search, you ***** sack of commie shit.

 

[Likkmee]

Learn to study Documents on Disarmament 1961 – UNODA

 

[Rustic]

The second amendment is the backbone of the constitution…

You believe the constitution was born without a spine?

It needs the second amendment

 

[francoHFW]

Why don't they follow the processes of the government and get 2/3 of Congress and 75% of states to overturn the 2nd amendment?

It's because they know it won't happen...so they will continually try to erode it with continuing to reduce our rights.

And what's wrong with that? What's wrong with changing the Constitution? There's even a part of the Constitution that allows for change. In fact, the 2A was one of those, hence why it's called an "amendment".

Because no one believes that Americans should not have hunting rifles and shotguns unless their idiots...

 

[francoHFW]

Trying to have background checks for everyone but family members and even doing away with handguns, is not trying to do away with the 2nd Amendment.we need Hunters to kill all these damn deer. But carry on with your ridiculous brainwashed bs, hater dupe.

Pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about...

I know the way it was before you morons and the NRA got brainwashed... There's no problem having rifles and shotguns okay? This s*** is crazy...

 

[BluesLegend]

You are the one who is deluded.

The ultimate aim of the Left is to ban all guns. Either that, or they are ******* stupid beyond belief.

You see, the Left is always renting their clothes and weeping over the bodies of gun homicide victims.

Well, there is one way, and one way only, to effectively reduce gun homicides. Waiting times won't do it. Banning "assault weapons" won't do it. Banning bump stocks won't do it.

Those are all shams.

The only way to effectively reduce gun homicides is to ban guns entirely and confiscate the ones that are out there. And the only way to do that is to repeal the Second Amendment.

And if you were paying attention, you would see the Left is always point to the examples of countries like Australia which had mandatory confiscation!

So the only one brainwashed in this picture is you. The ultimate aim of the Left is to repeal the Second Amendment and confiscate our guns.

They had Matt dettori confiscation of assault weapons... No one is talking about ending the Second Amendment nobody has anything about hunting rifles and shotguns even the most radical... And guns are only good for one thing, killing people.

shoot an Alaska brown bear with your hunting rifle, it will just piss it off.

So shoot it a couple more times... Do you live in Alaska? What do you want an RPG? Going off the deep end all we're talking about is a good background check system and no bump stocks Etc.

We both know gun control filth have no intention of stopping there admit it or you are a hack.

You morons can have guns that looked like military weapons but no bump stocks or anything else that makes them automatic and handguns should be damned hard to buy and license, just like back in the good old days. Before Raygun and your idiotic fake news hate propaganda machine, dupe.

Not really interested in your ignorant personal opinions. What's with you libs anyway always wanting to BAN anything that upsets your fragile mental state?

 

[velvtacheeze]

Why don't they follow the processes of the government and get 2/3 of Congress and 75% of states to overturn the 2nd amendment?

It's because they know it won't happen...so they will continually try to erode it with continuing to reduce our rights.

I'm not shy about wanting to scrap it. It's an embarrassing anachronism. It's too dangerous now with modern technology in weapons. Mass murders of innocents are too common in this country. Mandalay Bay is partly the fault of the GOP and the NRA, and gun nuts throughout the USA. They were standing next to the shooter in that hotel room, in spirit, cheering him on.

If we can't scrap it , then it should be enforced correctly, which is to only allow gun ownership to those in their Natl Guard. The first clause of the amendment should be restored fully.

 

[BluesLegend]

Why don't they follow the processes of the government and get 2/3 of Congress and 75% of states to overturn the 2nd amendment?

It's because they know it won't happen...so they will continually try to erode it with continuing to reduce our rights.

I'm not shy about wanting to scrap it. It's an embarrassing anachronism. It's too dangerous now with modern technology in weapons. Mass murders of innocents are too common in this country. Mandalay Bay is partly the fault of the GOP and the NRA, and gun nuts throughout the USA. They were standing next to the shooter in that hotel room, in spirit, cheering him on.

If we can't scrap it , then it should be enforced correctly, which is to only allow gun ownership to those in their Natl Guard. The first clause of the amendment should be restored fully.

^^^ this is why we have the 2nd amendment to protect us from morons like this clown.

 

[2aguy]

You are the one who is deluded.

The ultimate aim of the Left is to ban all guns. Either that, or they are ******* stupid beyond belief.

You see, the Left is always renting their clothes and weeping over the bodies of gun homicide victims.

Well, there is one way, and one way only, to effectively reduce gun homicides. Waiting times won't do it. Banning "assault weapons" won't do it. Banning bump stocks won't do it.

Those are all shams.

The only way to effectively reduce gun homicides is to ban guns entirely and confiscate the ones that are out there. And the only way to do that is to repeal the Second Amendment.

And if you were paying attention, you would see the Left is always point to the examples of countries like Australia which had mandatory confiscation!

So the only one brainwashed in this picture is you. The ultimate aim of the Left is to repeal the Second Amendment and confiscate our guns.

They had Matt dettori confiscation of assault weapons... No one is talking about ending the Second Amendment nobody has anything about hunting rifles and shotguns even the most radical... And guns are only good for one thing, killing people.

shoot an Alaska brown bear with your hunting rifle, it will just piss it off.

So shoot it a couple more times... Do you live in Alaska? What do you want an RPG? Going off the deep end all we're talking about is a good background check system and no bump stocks Etc.

We both know gun control filth have no intention of stopping there admit it or you are a hack.

Before Reagan and the new total b******* GOP, dupe, it was always no problem you could have rifles and shotguns and it was damn hard to get handguns... Now you people are brainwashed by the NRA and the bought off new bulshit GOP.

Are you stupid....it was easier getting handguns before Reagan......now, with more paperwork, criminals are getting more and more of them.....

 

[2aguy]

Why don't they follow the processes of the government and get 2/3 of Congress and 75% of states to overturn the 2nd amendment?

It's because they know it won't happen...so they will continually try to erode it with continuing to reduce our rights.

because it isn't moron..;...

it also isn't our goal to allow you to pretend that the 2nd amendment gives you the right to unlimited weapons of any caliber

Thanks for admitting you will next go after bullet caliber...it is nice to have fascists like you admit the Freedoms you want to take......

The 2nd Amendment gives us the right to any rifle or pistol used by the military.....and those in common use....

Here......read Heller....

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Page 19.....

A pre exisitng right

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right. The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.” As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16
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Thus, the right secured in 1689 as a result of the Stuarts’ abuses was by the time of the founding understood to be an individual right protecting against both public and private violence.

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Reading the Second Amendment as protecting only the right to “keep and bear Arms” in an organized militia therefore fits poorly with the operative clause’s description of the holder of that right as “the people.” We start therefore with a strong presumption that the Second Amendment right is exercised individually and belongs to all Americans.



Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment.

We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.

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In Muscarello v. United States, 524 U. S. 125 (1998), in the course of analyzing the meaning of “carries a firearm” in a federal criminal statute, JUSTICE GINSBURG wrote that “urely a most familiar meaning is, as the Constitution’s Second Amendment . . . indicate: ‘wear, bear, or carry . . . upon the person or in the clothing or in a pocket, for the purpose . . . of being armed and ready for offensive or defensive action in a case of conflict with another person.’” I

Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.

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