Do you believe that we are now or will soon be overpopulated?

[Jitss617]

Democrats need over population and chaos, to win elections

 

[Marion Morrison]

Well, nature will, indeed, sort this out since human intelligence is so sadly lacking. Continuing to procreate in areas where even the parents can barely survive will continue suffering, disease, crisis and conflict. Turning a blind eye to it is the least human thing we can do.
Every person born will suffer and die. We used to make babies in order to have a security in old age and take care of us until death. Death is the ultimate end of life. We don't need so many children now to assure old age care. Making more people just so they die is not rational.

Moar lefty logic.
Yeah sure; Let the state take care of your elderly loved ones, what could go wrong?

 

[Blues Man]

The earth is a closed system with finite resources.

Of course it is possible to overpopulate the earth to the point where the needs of the population exceed the finite resources available.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The earth is a closed system with finite resources.

Of course it is possible to overpopulate the earth to the point where the needs of the population exceed the finite resources available.

Needs or wants? Hmm?

 

[Blues Man]

The earth is a closed system with finite resources.

Of course it is possible to overpopulate the earth to the point where the needs of the population exceed the finite resources available.

Needs or wants? Hmm?

Does it matter?

But both

 

[gipper]

Well, nature will, indeed, sort this out since human intelligence is so sadly lacking. Continuing to procreate in areas where even the parents can barely survive will continue suffering, disease, crisis and conflict. Turning a blind eye to it is the least human thing we can do.
Every person born will suffer and die. We used to make babies in order to have a security in old age and take care of us until death. Death is the ultimate end of life. We don't need so many children now to assure old age care. Making more people just so they die is not rational.

Moar lefty logic.
Yeah sure; Let the state take care of your elderly loved ones, what could go wrong?

This scientist doctor thinks humans could live for 1000 years. What then?

 

[there4eyeM]

Head up ass or in sand has same vision.

 

[Unkotare]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

No, we are not way overpopulated. The carrying capacity of this planet without technology is around 15 billion. With technology it jumps to around 40 billion. Right now, every person living on the globe can be packed in to the State of Rhode Island, and there is room to spare. The problem is corruption, and ideology. Those are what cause famine and disease outbreaks.

Population DENSITY is the main variable, which relates to CONFLICT among animals in their ecologies.
If humans practiced ideology such as FAIRNESS, EMPATHY & RESPECT, that would mitigate the hi-density conflicts, including corruption.

Two of the benefits from this pandemic are REDUCED URBAN TRAFFIC and CLEANER AIR.
I would like to keep it that way, and NOT increase population!
Why do we need more people??
.

.

Why do we need you?

 

[2aguy]

Well, nature will, indeed, sort this out since human intelligence is so sadly lacking. Continuing to procreate in areas where even the parents can barely survive will continue suffering, disease, crisis and conflict. Turning a blind eye to it is the least human thing we can do.
Every person born will suffer and die. We used to make babies in order to have a security in old age and take care of us until death. Death is the ultimate end of life. We don't need so many children now to assure old age care. Making more people just so they die is not rational.

Moar lefty logic.
Yeah sure; Let the state take care of your elderly loved ones, what could go wrong?

This scientist doctor thinks humans could live for 1000 years. What then?

As societies become wealthy, people tend to have fewer children. We are already seeing his happen across the world. The overpopulation hysteria in some people is simply that, a hysteria and nothing that is based in truth, facts or reality.

 

[PK1]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

No, we are not way overpopulated. The carrying capacity of this planet without technology is around 15 billion. With technology it jumps to around 40 billion. Right now, every person living on the globe can be packed in to the State of Rhode Island, and there is room to spare. The problem is corruption, and ideology. Those are what cause famine and disease outbreaks.

Population DENSITY is the main variable, which relates to CONFLICT among animals in their ecologies.
If humans practiced ideology such as FAIRNESS, EMPATHY & RESPECT, that would mitigate the hi-density conflicts, including corruption.

Two of the benefits from this pandemic are REDUCED URBAN TRAFFIC and CLEANER AIR.
I would like to keep it that way, and NOT increase population!
Why do we need more people??
.

Why do we need you?

To demonstrate how idiotic posters like you are.
.

 

[there4eyeM]

What is the motivation for so many people to have so many children? Isn't it really that offspring are the thoughtless result of simple physical pleasure in sex? With the slightest care, this pleasure can be had without making a baby. To bring a human into this world of pain and sorrow just because of a passing urge would seem to be against reason. There are far too many unreasonable people, so, in that way at least, the earth is overpopulated.

 

[PK1]

What is the motivation for so many people to have so many children? Isn't it really that offspring are the thoughtless result of simple physical pleasure in sex? With the slightest care, this pleasure can be had without making a baby. To bring a human into this world of pain and sorrow just because of a passing urge would seem to be against reason. There are far too many unreasonable people, so, in that way at least, the earth is overpopulated.

The basic motivation for procreation (sex) should no longer explain large families in civilized cultures. When starvation, war, or disease are no longer reasons for having many children to pass on our genes via survivors, and our human lifespans have doubled in the past 150 years, then why have large families?
Mindless ego? Mindless religion?
Fear of being alone when old?

I think parenthood is FUN overall, and i understand why some people have many offspring, but i wish all the children born are well nurtured too, and grow up being responsible citizens.
.

 

[Unkotare]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

No, we are not way overpopulated. The carrying capacity of this planet without technology is around 15 billion. With technology it jumps to around 40 billion. Right now, every person living on the globe can be packed in to the State of Rhode Island, and there is room to spare. The problem is corruption, and ideology. Those are what cause famine and disease outbreaks.

Population DENSITY is the main variable, which relates to CONFLICT among animals in their ecologies.
If humans practiced ideology such as FAIRNESS, EMPATHY & RESPECT, that would mitigate the hi-density conflicts, including corruption.

Two of the benefits from this pandemic are REDUCED URBAN TRAFFIC and CLEANER AIR.
I would like to keep it that way, and NOT increase population!
Why do we need more people??
.

Why do we need you?

To demonstrate how idiotic posters like you are.
.

Hypocrite.

 

[Unkotare]

What is the motivation for so many people to have so many children? Isn't it really that offspring are the thoughtless result of simple physical pleasure in sex? With the slightest care, this pleasure can be had without making a baby. To bring a human into this world of pain and sorrow just because of a passing urge would seem to be against reason. There are far too many unreasonable people, so, in that way at least, the earth is overpopulated.

“This world of pain and sorrow”? Are you a wannabe Buddhist, or just a drama queen weeping into your Cheerios?

 

[Unkotare]

If nothing else, this thread sadly shows that we’ve got numbskulls who swallowed a false crisis in the 70s, and have been pacing the same street corner wearing a “The End is Near!” sandwich board for almost 50 years. The sign is cracked and faded, but these old fools are still trying to maintain a look of smug superiority on their wrinkled old nihilistic faces.

 

[there4eyeM]

Such passion and personal enmity exhibited! What is so ego-challenging about an opposing opinion concerning something that time, and time alone, will resolve?
The case for increasing the population has never been demonstrated here. Rational arguments for a moderate approach have been offered. There is no need for invective and name-calling. It only shows desperation.

 

[gipper]

Such passion and personal enmity exhibited! What is so ego-challenging about an opposing opinion concerning something that time, and time alone, will resolve?
The case for increasing the population has never been demonstrated here. Rational arguments for a moderate approach have been offered. There is no need for invective and name-calling. It only shows desperation.

It’s evident that most humans of child bearing years aren’t having a lot of children. Many nations are experiencing little to negative population growth. So it would seem this debate is really about nothing.

 

[Unkotare]

...something that time, and time alone, will resolve?
...

Time - every time - has proven it to be a false crisis.

 

[2aguy]

What is the motivation for so many people to have so many children? Isn't it really that offspring are the thoughtless result of simple physical pleasure in sex? With the slightest care, this pleasure can be had without making a baby. To bring a human into this world of pain and sorrow just because of a passing urge would seem to be against reason. There are far too many unreasonable people, so, in that way at least, the earth is overpopulated.

The basic motivation for procreation (sex) should no longer explain large families in civilized cultures. When starvation, war, or disease are no longer reasons for having many children to pass on our genes via survivors, and our human lifespans have doubled in the past 150 years, then why have large families?
Mindless ego? Mindless religion?
Fear of being alone when old?

I think parenthood is FUN overall, and i understand why some people have many offspring, but i wish all the children born are well nurtured too, and grow up being responsible citizens.
.

How about...if you want more kids...have them....if you don't, don't, and then everyone else mind their own business? The world isn't close to being fully populated let alone over populated and people who are wealthy have fewer children....as Capitalism creates wealth, even in the 3rd world, they too will have fewer children on their own.....without the jack boot of government telling them what to do.

 

[Unkotare]

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How about...if you want more kids...have them....if you don't, don't, and then everyone else mind their own business? The world isn't close to being fully populated let alone over populated and people who are wealthy have fewer children....as Capitalism creates wealth, even in the 3rd world, they too will have fewer children on their own.....without the jack boot of government telling them what to do.

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^