Do you believe that we are now or will soon be overpopulated?

[Theowl32]

The earth is already overpopulated. modern medicine is mostly responsible (or gets the credit).

there are limits on how many humans this planet can feed, Africa and parts of asia are already unable to feed all the people who live there,

the real question is how do we stop or control it.

We (humanity) need not worry......
Mother nature WILL thin the heard. It's happened throughout history. Modern medicine has delayed the process, but that just means that when she comes charging back, it's gonna be a wipe out. A new virus will evolve, anti-biotics will become useless or something. Guaranteed. Billions will go at once. it's part of nature.

China's working on mutated pathogens that only affect humans without certain Asian genes.
No proof at this time.....but they're innovative and scientifically evolving rapidly. Plus, they don't have government restrictions.

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[westwall]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

No, we are not way overpopulated. The carrying capacity of this planet without technology is around 15 billion. With technology it jumps to around 40 billion. Right now, every person living on the globe can be packed in to the State of Rhode Island, and there is room to spare. The problem is corruption, and ideology. Those are what cause famine and disease outbreaks.

 

[westwall]

OVERPOPULATION?

This Covid-19 pandemic is a cruel reminder of how HUMAN population DENSITY contributes to the spread of deadly viruses ...
as well as POLLUTION, CONFLICT, CRIME.
.

Not to mention war, radiation, ozone depletion, pollinator extinction, fossil fuel depletion, deforestation, etc.

I remember a physicist watching the first hydrogen bomb test in the Pacific, holding his breath because there was still a risk the deuterium in the ocean would propagate the explosion, taking the whole world with it.
We do foolish risks like that all the time.

No, there was no risk. If there was a legit risk, they wouldn't have detonated it.

 

[PK1]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

No, we are not way overpopulated. The carrying capacity of this planet without technology is around 15 billion. With technology it jumps to around 40 billion. Right now, every person living on the globe can be packed in to the State of Rhode Island, and there is room to spare. The problem is corruption, and ideology. Those are what cause famine and disease outbreaks.

Population DENSITY is the main variable, which relates to CONFLICT among animals in their ecologies.
If humans practiced ideology such as FAIRNESS, EMPATHY & RESPECT, that would mitigate the hi-density conflicts, including corruption.

Two of the benefits from this pandemic are REDUCED URBAN TRAFFIC and CLEANER AIR.
I would like to keep it that way, and NOT increase population!
Why do we need more people??
.

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[westwall]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

No, we are not way overpopulated. The carrying capacity of this planet without technology is around 15 billion. With technology it jumps to around 40 billion. Right now, every person living on the globe can be packed in to the State of Rhode Island, and there is room to spare. The problem is corruption, and ideology. Those are what cause famine and disease outbreaks.

Population DENSITY is the main variable, which relates to CONFLICT among animals in their ecologies.
If humans practiced ideology such as FAIRNESS, EMPATHY & RESPECT, that would mitigate the hi-density conflicts, including corruption.

Two of the benefits from this pandemic are REDUCED URBAN TRAFFIC and CLEANER AIR.
I would like to keep it that way, and NOT increase population!
Why do we need more people??
.

.

Environmental loons are demanding that population density be increased. No, density doesn't necessarily equate to violence. Animal conflict is about resources. Each critter has a niche, the battles are about who is going to fill that niche.

Yes, lack of traffic is nice, but ultimately the result is increased unemployment and the problems that come with that.

Why more people? Why not? The more people the more opportunities for geniuses to be born. Geniuses are needed to advance us off of this single planet.

 

[2aguy]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

No, we are not way overpopulated. The carrying capacity of this planet without technology is around 15 billion. With technology it jumps to around 40 billion. Right now, every person living on the globe can be packed in to the State of Rhode Island, and there is room to spare. The problem is corruption, and ideology. Those are what cause famine and disease outbreaks.

Population DENSITY is the main variable, which relates to CONFLICT among animals in their ecologies.
If humans practiced ideology such as FAIRNESS, EMPATHY & RESPECT, that would mitigate the hi-density conflicts, including corruption.

Two of the benefits from this pandemic are REDUCED URBAN TRAFFIC and CLEANER AIR.
I would like to keep it that way, and NOT increase population!
Why do we need more people??
.

.

Cause....freedom? Will you be the one choosing who can have sex and make babies or will you leave it to some nerd at the Federal Bureau of Baby Making?

Socialists in Germany did this in the 30s cause their leader needed soldiers and workers....Socialists in China decided only male babies were important.....both ended badly for their countries.......

 

[Slyhunter]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

Seaweed.

 

[Unkotare]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

Some people were fed this false crisis about ‘overpopulation’ back in the 70s and still can’t let it go.

 

[2aguy]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

Some people were fed this false crisis about ‘overpopulation’ back in the 70s and still can’t let it go.

It just the next step in their attempt to scare people into giving them power and control......

 

[Unkotare]

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The fact we are experiencing pandemics show that we already are over populated.
The fact we rely on limited fossil fuels for 75% of our food production shows we are over populated.
The fact pollinators are going extinct and risk 50% of our food production shows we are over populated.

More lefty logic!

 

[2aguy]

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The fact we are experiencing pandemics show that we already are over populated.
The fact we rely on limited fossil fuels for 75% of our food production shows we are over populated.
The fact pollinators are going extinct and risk 50% of our food production shows we are over populated.

More lefty logic!

And again....the ones screeching loudest about the world being over populated always mean....."Over populated by other people," but they never mean themselves...the one person they have absolute control over and who they could easily "remove," to make the planet less populated....by one....

 

[HenryBHough]

In his Easter Rant The Pope promoted "Mother Nature" to become the fourth member of what used to be The Holy Trinity. Not "Mother Mary", mind you....Nay...Mother Nature. So if Mother Nature says we are overpopulated and is punishing humankind with Global What-The-Fuck and plagues....well, kneel down and suck it up.

 

[there4eyeM]

Well, nature will, indeed, sort this out since human intelligence is so sadly lacking. Continuing to procreate in areas where even the parents can barely survive will continue suffering, disease, crisis and conflict. Turning a blind eye to it is the least human thing we can do.
Every person born will suffer and die. We used to make babies in order to have a security in old age and take care of us until death. Death is the ultimate end of life. We don't need so many children now to assure old age care. Making more people just so they die is not rational.

 

[2aguy]

Well, nature will, indeed, sort this out since human intelligence is so sadly lacking. Continuing to procreate in areas where even the parents can barely survive will continue suffering, disease, crisis and conflict. Turning a blind eye to it is the least human thing we can do.
Every person born will suffer and die. We used to make babies in order to have a security in old age and take care of us until death. Death is the ultimate end of life. We don't need so many children now to assure old age care. Making more people just so they die is not rational.

Population in first world countries is already on the decline....as countries become wealthy they stop having as many children...so you doom and gloomers have nothing to worry about.

 

[Redfish]

Soylent Green is the answer

 

[xyz]

OVERPOPULATION?

This Covid-19 pandemic is a cruel reminder of how HUMAN population DENSITY contributes to the spread of deadly viruses ...
as well as POLLUTION, CONFLICT, CRIME.
.

And also how poorly urban (and suburban as well) agglomerations are managed, in particular with regards to transportation.

 

[there4eyeM]

OVERPOPULATION?

This Covid-19 pandemic is a cruel reminder of how HUMAN population DENSITY contributes to the spread of deadly viruses ...
as well as POLLUTION, CONFLICT, CRIME.
.

And also how poorly urban (and suburban as well) agglomerations are managed, in particular with regards to transportation.

The present population's demand for excess (such as the current ludicrous private vehicles) increases pressure on resources.
The problem is not if there is enough for all, it is that some want far too much.

 

[PK1]

Any population that experiences the exponential growth such as been displayed by our race always undergoes a rapid die-off. .

Our race has been growing exponentially since 9500 BC. Not such a rapid die-off.

Mid-14th century brought quite a change.

Wow.......yes.....leeches are not the best medicine.......failing to see that the population has grown...and yet we still aren't overpopulated, not even close.

We are way over populated.
How would you know if we were not?
If you are thinking of square footage to stand on, that has little to do with survival.
For example, how many hundreds of acres of trees do each of us need, in order to replace the oxygen we breath?
The fact we have about a 300 year oxygen surplus is not relevant.
That is just another blink of an eye.
When we breath in oxygen and exhale CO2, plants have to reverse that with photosynthesis, or we all die. There is no artificial way to replace natural photosynthesis, as the energy requirements would be way too huge.

We evolved for the planet as it was millions of years ago, so we alter the planet at our own peril. When species go extinct that we used to rely on, that risks our survival.
For example, if pollinator like bees die from glyphosates, our food production will be cut by more than half. When we run out of fossil fuel for fertilizers, our food production will also be cut by about 75%. So in no way are we sustainable currently.

No, we are not way overpopulated. The carrying capacity of this planet without technology is around 15 billion. With technology it jumps to around 40 billion. Right now, every person living on the globe can be packed in to the State of Rhode Island, and there is room to spare. The problem is corruption, and ideology. Those are what cause famine and disease outbreaks.

Population DENSITY is the main variable, which relates to CONFLICT among animals in their ecologies.
If humans practiced ideology such as FAIRNESS, EMPATHY & RESPECT, that would mitigate the hi-density conflicts, including corruption.

Two of the benefits from this pandemic are REDUCED URBAN TRAFFIC and CLEANER AIR.
I would like to keep it that way, and NOT increase population!
Why do we need more people??
.

Cause....freedom? Will you be the one choosing who can have sex and make babies or will you leave it to some nerd at the Federal Bureau of Baby Making?

Socialists in Germany did this in the 30s cause their leader needed soldiers and workers....Socialists in China decided only male babies were important.....both ended badly for their countries.......

As an ethical libertatian, i do NOT want to take away an individual’s FREEDOM to procreate, or have an abortion.
With cultural/ecological incentives AND decent education, including PLANNED Parenthood type of initiatives, individuals can be better informed & make proactive responsible decisions about the number of children they need to fulfill their desired family expectations.
The truly wanted & nurtured children are more likely to be an asset to themselves, their families, their societies, and our planet.
.

 

[Blues Man]

 

[Likkmee]

Just stop it ! The population "problem" takes quite a while to "solve".