Do we agree that a fundamental difference between the right and the left is...

once again you blame one side for what both are responsible for.

Every leftist I've ever spoken to opposes term limits. How about you? Do you support or oppose term limits?

I only support them via a Constitutional amendment. Otherwise it is just the government telling people who they cannot vote for which I cannot agree with.

The thing is that our founding fathers were smart enough to put in built in term limits, it is called having an election every 2 years.
 
The left supports individual good through common good (trickle up). The right supports common good through individual good (trickle down). That is what it essentially boils down to.

The left supports government providing more services than the right. Hence, it also must support more taxation to fund those additional services. Do you agree?
The right supports $1.4 trillion in tax expenditures. Hence, it must also support the higher tax rates and massive borrowing which fund those expenditures. Do you agree?
Who writes the budget?

Game Over.
You missed the part where Trump personally asked for $4.75 trillion for a single year. The biggest budget in the history of the Universe.

Game. Over.
 
...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?

No, I wouldn't say that's accurate. They just have different priorities. They want different kinds of intrusive government (abortion, walling off the borders, etc ...). Republicans like to play "libertarian" when it suits them. But really only when the government is doing something they don't like. When government is imposing their values on the rest of the world, they're fine with it.

The left thinks humankind is too greedy for true libertarianism, the right thinks they're too immoral for it. Both are correct.
Yes. So, these people, who are both greedy and immoral, can be trusted to run the country with a coercive state government? Hmmm.... How you think that's gonna work out?
 
The left supports individual good through common good (trickle up). The right supports common good through individual good (trickle down). That is what it essentially boils down to.

The left supports government providing more services than the right. Hence, it also must support more taxation to fund those additional services. Do you agree?
The right supports $1.4 trillion in tax expenditures. Hence, it must also support the higher tax rates and massive borrowing which fund those expenditures. Do you agree?
Who writes the budget?

Game Over.

who signs the budget?

Game over again.
 
No, I wouldn't say that's accurate. They just have different priorities. They want different kinds of intrusive government (abortion, walling off the borders, etc ...). Republicans like to play "libertarian" when it suits them. But really only when the government is doing something they don't like. When government is imposing their values on the rest of the world, they're fine with it.

So the right wants just as many government programs and the left and supports higher spending and higher taxes just like the left, is that your belief?
 
I've said countless times the GOP really screwed the pooch when it comes to immigrants. Immigrants, legal and illegal, are by and large hard working, deeply religious, and family oriented.

They are a natural fit for the Republican Party, but get their faces spit on by the bigots and the Right's propagandists instead.

Most of the world is comprised of hard-leftists who also happen to hate white people and christian values and you expect them to change into friggin george washington when they set foot on magical American soil?
The left hates "Christian values"?

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Donald Trump has amputated your moral legs at the hip, dumbass. You have nothing to stand on. You're on stumps.

Serial adultery, bearing false witness on a daily basis, theft, covetousness. All raised to an art form by the devil's spawn in the White House.

Clean the beam out of your own eye before pointing out the splinter in your neighbor's eye.

Yes, the left legitimately hates Christian values and they make no bones about it.
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You tell 'im, sucker!

I guess I could have sat out the election because Trump isn't ideal which would essentially be the same thing as voting for Hillary
Nope. Horrible illogic.

Voting for someone sends the message, "Keep doing what you're doing!"

I refuse to send that message to either of the Democrats Trump or Clinton.
 
The left supports individual good through common good (trickle up). The right supports common good through individual good (trickle down). That is what it essentially boils down to.

The left supports government providing more services than the right. Hence, it also must support more taxation to fund those additional services. Do you agree?
The right supports $1.4 trillion in tax expenditures. Hence, it must also support the higher tax rates and massive borrowing which fund those expenditures. Do you agree?
Who writes the budget?

Game Over.

who signs the budget?

Game over again.
And who does the media blame for ‘shutting down the government’?
 
No, I wouldn't say that's accurate. They just have different priorities. They want different kinds of intrusive government (abortion, walling off the borders, etc ...). Republicans like to play "libertarian" when it suits them. But really only when the government is doing something they don't like. When government is imposing their values on the rest of the world, they're fine with it.

So the right wants just as many government programs and the left and supports higher spending and higher taxes just like the left, is that your belief?

No, I didn't say that.
 
While many voters on the right say they hold those beliefs, the people they have voted for over the last 100 years or so do not hold those views.

Is it your view that the right supports government takeover of health care, higher taxes and more social programs, as the left does?
The right supports a government takeover of the entire free market through tax cuts, exemptions, and deductions. And through subsidies.

The Republican party interferes massively in the markets, picking winners and losers.

Individuals earning identical incomes do not pay identical taxes. Corporations earning identical incomes do not pay identical taxes.

You are punished if you do not buy the right things. You are even punished if you do not breed.

You can thank the Right for that.
Remember this picture? This is the tax code printed.

tax code.jpg


You really want to claim the GOP is responsible for all that?
 
The left supports individual good through common good (trickle up). The right supports common good through individual good (trickle down). That is what it essentially boils down to.

The left supports government providing more services than the right. Hence, it also must support more taxation to fund those additional services. Do you agree?
The right supports $1.4 trillion in tax expenditures. Hence, it must also support the higher tax rates and massive borrowing which fund those expenditures. Do you agree?
Who writes the budget?

Game Over.

who signs the budget?

Game over again.
And who does the media blame for ‘shutting down the government’?

who gives a fuck?
 
While many voters on the right say they hold those beliefs, the people they have voted for over the last 100 years or so do not hold those views.

Is it your view that the right supports government takeover of health care, higher taxes and more social programs, as the left does?
The right supports a government takeover of the entire free market through tax cuts, exemptions, and deductions. And through subsidies.

The Republican party interferes massively in the markets, picking winners and losers.

Individuals earning identical incomes do not pay identical taxes. Corporations earning identical incomes do not pay identical taxes.

You are punished if you do not buy the right things. You are even punished if you do not breed.

You can thank the Right for that.
Remember this picture? This is the tax code printed.

View attachment 289541

You really want to claim the GOP is responsible for all that?

only half responsible.
 
The left supports government providing more services than the right. Hence, it also must support more taxation to fund those additional services. Do you agree?
The right supports $1.4 trillion in tax expenditures. Hence, it must also support the higher tax rates and massive borrowing which fund those expenditures. Do you agree?
Who writes the budget?

Game Over.

who signs the budget?

Game over again.
And who does the media blame for ‘shutting down the government’?

who gives a fuck?
Protecting your Leftard agenda, hilarious.
 

And what? In what realm do you live? Yea, Nancy would shut it down if she didn't get the spending that she demands. Are you going to deny that? Furthermore, is Nancy or anyone else on the left calling for LESS government spending?

You deny reality and then mock those that speak the plain truth.
 
...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?

Holy shit REALLY?

This was why Buttsoiler ("Rottweiler") left the board in shame and had to change his name to come back --- he tried to sell the mendacious malarkey that the difference between 'right' and 'left' is 'how big the government is".

NO that's NOT what it means AT ALL so no we absolutely DO NOT agree. This is a contemporary fantasy born of the Dumb-Down set designed to obscure political realities.

The left politicians are the wealthy who insulate themselves from the parasitic class by promising them to take things from everyone and give it to them.
They fool you idiots every time.
Hillary hasn't driven her own car in 30 years -- but she's just like you and me.
 
The left supports individual good through common good (trickle up). The right supports common good through individual good (trickle down). That is what it essentially boils down to.

The left supports government providing more services than the right. Hence, it also must support more taxation to fund those additional services. Do you agree?
The right supports $1.4 trillion in tax expenditures. Hence, it must also support the higher tax rates and massive borrowing which fund those expenditures. Do you agree?
Who writes the budget?

Game Over.

who signs the budget?

Game over again.
And who does the media blame for ‘shutting down the government’?

I never understood the whole idea of 'blame' when it comes to shutting down the government. It's more a question of who gets the credit.
 
No, I wouldn't say that's accurate. They just have different priorities. They want different kinds of intrusive government (abortion, walling off the borders, etc ...). Republicans like to play "libertarian" when it suits them. But really only when the government is doing something they don't like. When government is imposing their values on the rest of the world, they're fine with it.

So the right wants just as many government programs and the left and supports higher spending and higher taxes just like the left, is that your belief?
Their ACTIONS speak the truth. So absolutely.

The only difference is what they spend money on. That's. It.

Trump has doubled the deficit. After eight years of screaming and screaming and screaming about Obama's spending, the "Right" has gone completely radio silent about Trump's spending. And his spending is GREATER than Obama's.

That tells me everything I need to know about the Right's WORDS. Their WORDS are total bullshit.
 
The left supports individual good through common good (trickle up). The right supports common good through individual good (trickle down). That is what it essentially boils down to.

The left supports government providing more services than the right. Hence, it also must support more taxation to fund those additional services. Do you agree?

Yup. The left supports a strong safety net which is funded through higher taxation. The right supports a weaker safety net, and minimal taxation.
 
While many voters on the right say they hold those beliefs, the people they have voted for over the last 100 years or so do not hold those views.

Is it your view that the right supports government takeover of health care, higher taxes and more social programs, as the left does?
The right supports a government takeover of the entire free market through tax cuts, exemptions, and deductions. And through subsidies.

The Republican party interferes massively in the markets, picking winners and losers.

Individuals earning identical incomes do not pay identical taxes. Corporations earning identical incomes do not pay identical taxes.

You are punished if you do not buy the right things. You are even punished if you do not breed.

You can thank the Right for that.
Remember this picture? This is the tax code printed.

View attachment 289541

You really want to claim the GOP is responsible for all that?

only half responsible.
You are a Leftist joke.
 

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