Do voters understand that GOP economics is a catastrophe in the making?

[Markle]

No I’m saying the increase in taxes for a Medicare for all plan specifically would save consumers money. The slight increase in taxes would be offset greatly from the savings in medical costs per year.

This is just another reason you Socialists can't foist this off on the general citizenry. You might make a bit more progress by being honest. I know, that's a frightening word!

 

[Billy000]

Right and what is Trump’s solution? Detaining the kids indefinitely on the tax payer’s dime. It’s a stupid and cruel policy and you morons support it. It’s impossible to take you seriously lol

By law, children cannot be deported, so when their parents are deported and they don't have relatives to take charge of them, they must be detained. It's not a policy, it's the law.

That is so fucking stupid. That is not at all how it worked before Trump. Kids were only detained in the RARE rare case their parents committed separate crimes. Otherwise, they were deported WITH their parents. Oh and guess what? Seeking asylum was completely LEGAL before Trump.

Seeking asylum still is LEGAL, you fricken idiots just decided to abuse it.

Lol oh really? How did we “abuse it”?

Are you really that stupid? 90% of illegals are now seeking asylum.

You mean because they are escaping their dangerous homelands out of desperation?

 

[toomuchtime_]

lol No, they're not saying they want to end border security, they're just opposed to anything that might provide border security.

Because it’s not needed. Migration from Mexico - legal or illegal - has been declining since 2008.

Yet migration from all the third world countries south of Mexico have been increasing. Dumbass, you need to save your bs doubletalk for those two friends you have that are still believing it.

Right and what is Trump’s solution? Detaining the kids indefinitely on the tax payer’s dime. It’s a stupid and cruel policy and you morons support it. It’s impossible to take you seriously lol

By law, children cannot be deported, so when their parents are deported and they don't have relatives to take charge of them, they must be detained. It's not a policy, it's the law.

That is so fucking stupid. That is not at all how it worked before Trump. Kids were only detained in the RARE rare case their parents committed separate crimes. Otherwise, they were deported WITH their parents. Oh and guess what? Seeking asylum was completely LEGAL before Trump.

Seeking asylum is still legal and activists have urged all illegals who get caught to ask for asylum, but the fact is the courts only grant asylum to a very small number of them, and if they follow the court's order and show up to be deported when they are told to, they take their kids with them, but some 90% of those the courts turn down do not show up to be deported and have to be found and forcibly deported and that's when their kids get left behind.

 

[Thinker101]

Illegal immigration from Mexico did decline during the recession but it increased again once the recession passed. In 2013, Chuck Schumer sponsored Senate bill S. 744, which would have built a border fence at the cost of $40 billion dollars and every Democrat in the Senate voted in favor of it. Hillary Clinton in her 2015 book, Hard Choices, lamented that that border fence had not been built, but as soon as Trump said he favored it, all the Democrats said it was the worst idea they ever heard. Democrats support open borders, as you have just acknowledged, but only because President Trump supports it.

That bill was hardly just about the wall. If you believe it a good bill why not push Trump to back it again and get is passed?

You heard Nancy Pelosi say building the wall is immoral, so it's a dead issue now, right?

I asked you what you thought.

I think with some modifications, it is a good idea and President Trump detailed those modifications in his 2018 SOTU address/

I don't recall a path to citizenship.

They're already citizens, although not in this country. The path is to follow their footsteps backward.

 

[pknopp]

Right and what is Trump’s solution? Detaining the kids indefinitely on the tax payer’s dime. It’s a stupid and cruel policy and you morons support it. It’s impossible to take you seriously lol

By law, children cannot be deported, so when their parents are deported and they don't have relatives to take charge of them, they must be detained. It's not a policy, it's the law.

That is so fucking stupid. That is not at all how it worked before Trump. Kids were only detained in the RARE rare case their parents committed separate crimes. Otherwise, they were deported WITH their parents. Oh and guess what? Seeking asylum was completely LEGAL before Trump.

Seeking asylum still is LEGAL, you fricken idiots just decided to abuse it.

Lol oh really? How did we “abuse it”?

Are you really that stupid? 90% of illegals are now seeking asylum.

No they aren't. If they get asylum they lose their jobs to new illegals.

 

[Billy000]

No I’m saying the increase in taxes for a Medicare for all plan specifically would save consumers money. The slight increase in taxes would be offset greatly from the savings in medical costs per year.

This is just another reason you Socialists can't foist this off on the general citizenry. You might make a bit more progress by being honest. I know, that's a frightening word!

The slight increase would be for the middle class you idiot. Obviously the raise on taxes on the wealthy wouldn’t be.

 

[whitehall]

Trump revitalized the economy in three years while do-nothing democrats were trying to reverse the results of the election. The House spends the money and the President signs the checks but so far it seems that the democrat majority is more interested in foreign intrigue and trying to impeach the President with bull shit charges than performing their Constitutional duties. People are literally shitting on the sidewalk in the House Speaker's district and it seems that she couldn't care less. What the hell is important to democrats these days besides hatred and anger?

 

[Thinker101]

By law, children cannot be deported, so when their parents are deported and they don't have relatives to take charge of them, they must be detained. It's not a policy, it's the law.

That is so fucking stupid. That is not at all how it worked before Trump. Kids were only detained in the RARE rare case their parents committed separate crimes. Otherwise, they were deported WITH their parents. Oh and guess what? Seeking asylum was completely LEGAL before Trump.

Seeking asylum still is LEGAL, you fricken idiots just decided to abuse it.

Lol oh really? How did we “abuse it”?

Are you really that stupid? 90% of illegals are now seeking asylum.

You mean because they are escaping their dangerous homelands out of desperation?

Great, you are that stupid.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Illegal immigration from Mexico did decline during the recession but it increased again once the recession passed. In 2013, Chuck Schumer sponsored Senate bill S. 744, which would have built a border fence at the cost of $40 billion dollars and every Democrat in the Senate voted in favor of it. Hillary Clinton in her 2015 book, Hard Choices, lamented that that border fence had not been built, but as soon as Trump said he favored it, all the Democrats said it was the worst idea they ever heard. Democrats support open borders, as you have just acknowledged, but only because President Trump supports it.

That bill was hardly just about the wall. If you believe it a good bill why not push Trump to back it again and get is passed?

You heard Nancy Pelosi say building the wall is immoral, so it's a dead issue now, right?

I asked you what you thought.

I think with some modifications, it is a good idea and President Trump detailed those modifications in his 2018 SOTU address/

I don't recall a path to citizenship.

There was a path to citizenship for 1,800,000 who came here as children, but not for those who came here illegally as adults. That's fair and just.

 

[pknopp]

That bill was hardly just about the wall. If you believe it a good bill why not push Trump to back it again and get is passed?

You heard Nancy Pelosi say building the wall is immoral, so it's a dead issue now, right?

I asked you what you thought.

I think with some modifications, it is a good idea and President Trump detailed those modifications in his 2018 SOTU address/

I don't recall a path to citizenship.

They're already citizens, although not in this country. The path is to follow their footsteps backward.

Right, you aren't interested in the reason that the (D)'s voted for it. I have to guess you prefer they remain here illegally so that business has easy access to low wage workers.

 

[Markle]

Who, exactly, wants “open borders?” That’s just some non sense you say because someone tells you how stupid the wall idea is.

If there is no border, fence or, other barriers, where is the border and have inspections on the highways?

 

[Thinker101]

By law, children cannot be deported, so when their parents are deported and they don't have relatives to take charge of them, they must be detained. It's not a policy, it's the law.

That is so fucking stupid. That is not at all how it worked before Trump. Kids were only detained in the RARE rare case their parents committed separate crimes. Otherwise, they were deported WITH their parents. Oh and guess what? Seeking asylum was completely LEGAL before Trump.

Seeking asylum still is LEGAL, you fricken idiots just decided to abuse it.

Lol oh really? How did we “abuse it”?

Are you really that stupid? 90% of illegals are now seeking asylum.

No they aren't. If they get asylum they lose their jobs to new illegals.

That's way too stupid for anyone to understand.

 

[pknopp]

That bill was hardly just about the wall. If you believe it a good bill why not push Trump to back it again and get is passed?

You heard Nancy Pelosi say building the wall is immoral, so it's a dead issue now, right?

I asked you what you thought.

I think with some modifications, it is a good idea and President Trump detailed those modifications in his 2018 SOTU address/

I don't recall a path to citizenship.

There was a path to citizenship for 1,800,000 who came here as children, but not for those who came here illegally as adults. That's fair and just.

Trump is trying to end that. There never was a real path because Obama like with everything else didn't live up to his word.

 

[pknopp]

That is so fucking stupid. That is not at all how it worked before Trump. Kids were only detained in the RARE rare case their parents committed separate crimes. Otherwise, they were deported WITH their parents. Oh and guess what? Seeking asylum was completely LEGAL before Trump.

Seeking asylum still is LEGAL, you fricken idiots just decided to abuse it.

Lol oh really? How did we “abuse it”?

Are you really that stupid? 90% of illegals are now seeking asylum.

No they aren't. If they get asylum they lose their jobs to new illegals.

That's way too stupid for anyone to understand.

You understand what I said.

 

[Thinker101]

Seeking asylum still is LEGAL, you fricken idiots just decided to abuse it.

Lol oh really? How did we “abuse it”?

Are you really that stupid? 90% of illegals are now seeking asylum.

No they aren't. If they get asylum they lose their jobs to new illegals.

That's way too stupid for anyone to understand.

You understand what I said.

Yep, I understand it was way too stupid to make any sense.

 

[justoffal]

Let’s put aside the merits of leftwing American politics. We’ll just agree to disagree on that for now. Let’s just discuss the viability of GOP economics which is the fantasy of trickledown/supply side economics. Sure that shit sounds good until - you know - one thinks about it from a logical standpoint. Giving corporations more capital to sell products doesn’t somehow translate into more demand from the consumers. That isn’t how economics work. Our economy is a CONSUMER driven economy. It depends on people spending money. That is how it has ALWAYS worked. Corporations in this day age are wealthier than ever before. That means that when they get big tax breaks, they don’t invest the money they save. Why? Because it’s easier to just keep it. Why invest in labor if they are already wealthier than ever before?

Doesn’t it bother republicans that the GOP does NOTHING for the middle class? A strong middle class is how you keep this economy viable because they are the biggest CONSUMERS. A time will come when this economy will fail because of GOP economics. Rich people can’t stay rich if the wages of the middle class and poor remain way behind on inflation.

How can one possibly justify GOP policy?

Republicans do nothing for the middle class but Democrats will tax the shit out of them. How is that helping them.

The only one proposing taxing the middle class is Bernie’s Medicare for all plan which would ultimately save the middle class money and businesses money because one would not have to worry about the cost of co-pays, deductibles, and monthly premiums eating up their paychecks.

You mean what's left of your paycheck.

Jo

 

[pknopp]

Lol oh really? How did we “abuse it”?

Are you really that stupid? 90% of illegals are now seeking asylum.

No they aren't. If they get asylum they lose their jobs to new illegals.

That's way too stupid for anyone to understand.

You understand what I said.

Yep, I understand it was way too stupid to make any sense.

There are somewhere around 20 million here not seeking asylum.

 

[justoffal]

Let’s put aside the merits of leftwing American politics. We’ll just agree to disagree on that for now. Let’s just discuss the viability of GOP economics which is the fantasy of trickledown/supply side economics. Sure that shit sounds good until - you know - one thinks about it from a logical standpoint. Giving corporations more capital to sell products doesn’t somehow translate into more demand from the consumers. That isn’t how economics work. Our economy is a CONSUMER driven economy. It depends on people spending money. That is how it has ALWAYS worked. Corporations in this day age are wealthier than ever before. That means that when they get big tax breaks, they don’t invest the money they save. Why? Because it’s easier to just keep it. Why invest in labor if they are already wealthier than ever before?

Doesn’t it bother republicans that the GOP does NOTHING for the middle class? A strong middle class is how you keep this economy viable because they are the biggest CONSUMERS. A time will come when this economy will fail because of GOP economics. Rich people can’t stay rich if the wages of the middle class and poor remain way behind on inflation.

How can one possibly justify GOP policy?

What makes you think corporate America is synonymous with GOP?

Jo

 

[WillowTree]

Let’s put aside the merits of leftwing American politics. We’ll just agree to disagree on that for now. Let’s just discuss the viability of GOP economics which is the fantasy of trickledown/supply side economics. Sure that shit sounds good until - you know - one thinks about it from a logical standpoint. Giving corporations more capital to sell products doesn’t somehow translate into more demand from the consumers. That isn’t how economics work. Our economy is a CONSUMER driven economy. It depends on people spending money. That is how it has ALWAYS worked. Corporations in this day age are wealthier than ever before. That means that when they get big tax breaks, they don’t invest the money they save. Why? Because it’s easier to just keep it. Why invest in labor if they are already wealthier than ever before?

Doesn’t it bother republicans that the GOP does NOTHING for the middle class? A strong middle class is how you keep this economy viable because they are the biggest CONSUMERS. A time will come when this economy will fail because of GOP economics. Rich people can’t stay rich if the wages of the middle class and poor remain way behind on inflation.

How can one possibly justify GOP policy?

Republicans do nothing for the middle class but Democrats will tax the shit out of them. How is that helping them.

The only one proposing taxing the middle class is Bernie’s Medicare for all plan which would ultimately save the middle class money and businesses money because one would not have to worry about the cost of co-pays, deductibles, and monthly premiums eating up their paychecks.

Are you trying to say that taxes don't eat up a paycheck ?

No I’m saying the increase in taxes for a Medicare for all plan specifically would save consumers money. The slight increase in taxes would be offset greatly from the savings in medical costs per year.

How would that work since 50% of the country dosen’t even pay taxes?

 

[Markle]

Economics is not left or right...it simply IS.