Do Republicans really believe children, the disabled and the elderly are "leeches"??

[The VOR]

The left uses it to get votes and a tool for fear mongering

The right uses it as a hate-mongering tool to get votes.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Welfare was never meant to be a lifestyle or career, it's designed to be a stepping stone for those that are able to work. The left uses it to get votes and a tool for fear mongering

Welfare was never meant to be a lifestyle or career, it's designed to be a stepping stone for those that are able to work. The left uses it to get votes and a tool for fear mongering

That adults is a pretty big piece of the pie, let's start looking at them, see how long they've been on welfare and why

Disabled vets make up a large percentage but RWs say they don't deserve help any more than children do.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

How about you actually post something that proves your claims instead of just making accusations based on a know biased web site.

Another RW who says the USDA is biased to the left.

So, post your own source.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Most don't actually come out and say it, but when they use code words like "entitlement" it's easy enough to see where they are coming from.

Walker Says Entitlements Should Be Cut to Reduce Deficit - Bloomberg Business

YES.

But don't expect RWs to vote against Rs like Walker who want to raise taxes on the poor and increase subsidies to corporations.

Nope. They want to take food out of the mouths of those who have the least.

 

[Slyhunter]

Welfare was never meant to be a lifestyle or career, it's designed to be a stepping stone for those that are able to work. The left uses it to get votes and a tool for fear mongering

Automated assembly lines, self check out lines at Walmart and fast food joints. Soon self driving cars, busses and trucks. There isn't going to be a whole lot left for the working poor to do to earn money. Should we let them all die?

 

[Bfgrn]

How about you actually post something that proves your claims instead of just making accusations based on a know biased web site.

Why is GOP going after Social Security - CNN.com

Republicans planning stealth attack on Social Security Democrats fear - The Washington Post

 

[BluesLegend]

Ah, another liberal class warfare division thread. So the GOP war on kids, elderly, and the disabled is that it? lol These are the very same hate and division tactics that failed them last November. The war on women the war on fill in the blank lol. You libs better come up with some new ideas fast, you are already 40 seats short of a majority in the House man what an epic beating your side has taken since 2008.

 

[Bfgrn]

We just went through this with Mitten Romney 47% BULLSHIT...

We don't have a 'gargantuan welfare state'. America's safety net is below almost every other industrialized country in every measure. America more closely resembles the likes of Mexico than a modern First World industrialized nation.

We heard the ignorant rant of Mitt Romney and his 47%...

If there is a citizenry on this planet that does NOT have an entitlement mentality, it is the American people. American workers receive less benefits, paid leave, health care and take less vacation time than any other people. American workers take pride in the quality of their work and their work ethic.

What Romney said is a gross insult and reveals a dangerous mindset. He reeks of contempt for middle class working people and the poor.

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

[lulz]

Welfare was never meant to be a lifestyle or career, it's designed to be a stepping stone for those that are able to work. The left uses it to get votes and a tool for fear mongering

Blind children are leeches!!!

 

[OKTexas]

How about you actually post something that proves your claims instead of just making accusations based on a know biased web site.

Another RW who says the USDA is biased to the left.

So, post your own source.

Tell me there dip shit

How about you actually post something that proves your claims instead of just making accusations based on a know biased web site.

Another RW who says the USDA is biased to the left.

So, post your own source.

Show me where the USDA said
Republicans really believe children, the disabled and the elderly are "leeches"

 

[Mr Natural]

Let's not leave workers out of this equation, they're leeches also!

 

[OKTexas]

How about you actually post something that proves your claims instead of just making accusations based on a know biased web site.

Why is GOP going after Social Security - CNN.com

Republicans planning stealth attack on Social Security Democrats fear - The Washington Post

Benefits for disabled persons were added to Social Security in 1956 under President Eisenhower. By 1967, Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) benefits were extended to dependents of disabled persons, and to widowers of disabled persons, when the disabled person was qualified for collecting Social Security Disability Insurance benefits.

When Was Disability Insurance Added To Social Security - 2015

The program has been expanded beyond sustainability, that's been proven time and again by it having to be propped up so often. You don't think there is a need to find a long term solution?

 

[Bfgrn]

How about you actually post something that proves your claims instead of just making accusations based on a know biased web site.

Why is GOP going after Social Security - CNN.com

Republicans planning stealth attack on Social Security Democrats fear - The Washington Post

Benefits for disabled persons were added to Social Security in 1956 under President Eisenhower. By 1967, Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) benefits were extended to dependents of disabled persons, and to widowers of disabled persons, when the disabled person was qualified for collecting Social Security Disability Insurance benefits.

When Was Disability Insurance Added To Social Security - 2015

The program has been expanded beyond sustainability, that's been proven time and again by it having to be propped up so often. You don't think there is a need to find a long term solution?

The long term solution is not cutting benefits. A long term solution has been proposed by Bernie Sanders.

Sanders Issues New Report Documenting Republican Effort to Cut Social Security
Tuesday, February 10, 2015

WASHINGTON, Feb. 10 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, said that he would fight Republican attempts to cut Social Security and today issued a report detailing the importance of Social Security and how attempts to cut it are unnecessary.

“Republicans are manufacturing a phony crisis in Social Security in order to cut the earned benefits of millions of the most vulnerable people in this country,” Sanders said. “The American people won’t let them get away with it.”

“At a time when millions of Americans with disabilities and senior citizens are struggling to pay for food, medicine and heat, we should expand, not cut, Social Security,” Sanders added.

National senior organizations representing more than 60 million older Americans –including the AARP, the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare, the Alliance for Retired Americans and others – are opposed to Republican attempts to block a reallocation of Social Security retirement funds into the Social Security disability fund. Such a reallocation has happened 11 times since the 1960’s and was embraced by Presidents Johnson, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Clinton. President Barack Obama recently asked Congress to do it again this year.

But last month, House Republicans passed a rule to make reallocation more difficult and now the Senate may be poised to attempt the same thing, Sanders warned.

This despite the fact that the combined Social Security retirement and disability insurance trust funds have a $2.8 trillion surplus and can pay every benefit owed to every eligible American for the next 18 years.

“If Republicans are serious about extending the solvency of Social Security beyond 2033, I hope they will join me in scrapping the cap that allows multi-millionaires to pay a much smaller percentage of their income into Social Security than the middle class,” Sanders said.

According to the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration, applying the Social Security payroll tax on income above $250,000 would extend the solvency of Social Security until 2060. Sanders is working on legislation to do just that.

The Sanders’ report also explains how the Social Security disability program is affected by trends in the economy and the increase in income inequality. The report also notes that the American disability insurance system is actually less generous and more rigorous than programs in other countries. Finally, the report shows that many Americans rely on the program to buy food and other essentials and offers some anecdotes from people in Vermont and elsewhere.

Tomorrow, Sanders will speak in favor of reallocation to preserve Social Security for nearly 11 million disabled Americans and their children when the GOP-controlled committee convenes a hearing to review the disability program. The report can be found here.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Welfare was never meant to be a lifestyle or career, it's designed to be a stepping stone for those that are able to work. The left uses it to get votes and a tool for fear mongering

Nice chart, why is unknown twice the size of foster children? We Conservatives would pretty much like the unknown portion brought to zero and out of the chart. But when we try to do that we get you assholes screaming we want the foster care system shut down.

 

[Shrimpbox]

It is amazing how ignorance on the left can just grow and grow and grow. Let's start with the op. Like most households of the us, they are made up of the children, the elderly, and the handicapped. Once again the usual suspects claim the repubs want to do away with social security. It is false and it is a lie.

How Americans Game the 200 Billion-a-Year Disability-Industrial Complex - Forbes

The issue is about disability payments which have skyrocketed under Obama way way more than just because of a change in the population. The disability section is attached to social security so liberals like to say this is an attack on the whole program. Disability money will run out in 2016. Democrats never believe that any social program has gotten out,of control because social programs buy votes. So even when an outfit like NPR talks about massive fraud and abuse in the disability program which is putting truly worthy recipients at risk liberals will never admit the real problem but go back to mean heartless republicans. The program is bloated and about to go bust guys. Responsible people want to put it on a more,solid footing to help the people that really need help. Liberals do not want to help the truly needy, they just want to create straw men to buttress the fantasy world they create for the uninformed. Liberals cannot win an argument so they lie and obfuscate and try to make something out of failure. Tax more, pass out more fraud and abuse, and buy more votes with the money they are stealing from working Americans. Liberal rhetoric on this thread is a disgrace.

 

[bripat9643]

We all know that taking care of children, the disabled and the elderly is more than just feeding them. Those that take care of two of the three know how much a hundred dollars of food stamps means.

All this GOP ranting about food stamps. Do they believe children, the disabled and the elderly don't deserve help? Do Republicans think they should just quietly go away?

No one is stopping you from helping them, Deanie. Why don't you just admit you aren't willing to lift a finger to help them? You expect someone else to do it.

 

[hortysir]

We all know that taking care of children, the disabled and the elderly is more than just feeding them. Those that take care of two of the three know how much a hundred dollars of food stamps means.

All this GOP ranting about food stamps. Do they believe children, the disabled and the elderly don't deserve help? Do Republicans think they should just quietly go away?

If this Admin had done ANYTHING significant to strengthen our economy - specifically the job market - there wouldn't be a continuous growth in SNAP recipients.
You want MORE government dependents.
We want LESS.....and we're chastised for it

 

[hortysir]

Welfare was never meant to be a lifestyle or career, it's designed to be a stepping stone for those that are able to work. The left uses it to get votes and a tool for fear mongering

Welfare was never meant to be a lifestyle or career, it's designed to be a stepping stone for those that are able to work. The left uses it to get votes and a tool for fear mongering

That adults is a pretty big piece of the pie, let's start looking at them, see how long they've been on welfare and why

Disabled vets make up a large percentage but RWs say they don't deserve help any more than children do.

Who?

 

[Slyhunter]

People receiving aid mostly believe they deserve it and those who don't wish to give them free stuff are selfish assholes. I drive Medicaid patients to their doctor appointments. Only a few of which appreciate it. The rest get upset if I am too early or too late like I'm their personal valet.

I last took a guy in to a doctor who refused to replace his feeding tube because he didn't take his medicaid insurance plan. All he knew was that the selfish asshole refused to help him. He doesn't recognize the fact that long lines of people go to that doctors aid every day and get turned away because the doctor has to be able to pay his rent in order to stay in business and thus can't afford to give freebies to those who want them.

We have to draw the line somewhere. What we as a society can afford to give away free and what we can't. Just because we are able to do something doesn't mean we should, even if the alternative is your death.

 

[Shrimpbox]

We just went through this with Mitten Romney 47% BULLSHIT...

We don't have a 'gargantuan welfare state'. America's safety net is below almost every other industrialized country in every measure. America more closely resembles the likes of Mexico than a modern First World industrialized nation.

We heard the ignorant rant of Mitt Romney and his 47%...

If there is a citizenry on this planet that does NOT have an entitlement mentality, it is the American people. American workers receive less benefits, paid leave, health care and take less vacation time than any other people. American workers take pride in the quality of their work and their work ethic.

What Romney said is a gross insult and reveals a dangerous mindset. He reeks of contempt for middle class working people and the poor.

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Federal Spending by the Numbers 2014 Government Spending Trends in Graphics Tables

The bull here is strictly from people like this poster. Almost 70 percent of the us budget is entitlements and income support, that comes to two trillion dollars in one year which is probably more than the next 20 countries combined spend on such things. Just like Mexico eh? Well I guess that is why all the Mexicans are trying to get into this country. You can't argue with people who will not acknowledge the facts. Yes we do have a gargantuan welfare state to the tune of over two trillion dollars. Wake the f up.