Do "preemptive pardons" apply to military tribunals?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Biden (aka Obama III) is cutting new ground on his way out as the worst President ever, a little worse than FDR

The idea of a "preemptive" pardon is absurd on its face and impossible to stand any legal challenge

That said would the Deep State Terrorists preemptively "pardoned" be free from facing a military tribunal?

Do you have any idea what a military tribunal is? Apparently not!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There is no doubt that U.S. Army major Nadal Hasan murdered 13 American Soldiers in a shooting rampage at Ft. Hood in 2009. He has languished on death row for about a quarter of a century. Will Biden pardon him or will Trump finally give closure to the families of the Soldiers?

So, 15 years is a quarter of a century? Who knew?

 

[postman]

The idea of a "preemptive" pardon is absurd on its face and impossible to stand any legal challenge

Let me ring a bell for you.

Gerald R. Ford, and Richard M. Nixon.

 

[boevans]

Biden (aka Obama III) is cutting new ground on his way out as the worst President ever, a little worse than FDR

The idea of a "preemptive" pardon is absurd on its face and impossible to stand any legal challenge

That said would the Deep State Terrorists preemptively "pardoned" be free from facing a military tribunal?

Frank, stop the nuttiness. A pardon is a pardon, it is constitutional, and nothing Frank this means anything to the process.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I know a pardon does not apply to a civil case where you sue the filth for money...soooooooo...maybe

Pardons are for criminal actions and protect against government prosecution. pardons apply to military courts as well (as they are Federal).

Pardon After Completion of Sentence

www.justice.gov

 

[Auld Phart]

Apples and oranges.

Did you buy your share of Heil Shitler! water? Steaks? Merch (made in Ghina)? Shoes? Guiters? NFTs? Bibles? Diapers?

Apples and oranges

maybe Granny Smith and Macintosh
or Navel and tangerines

but NOT apples and oranges.

the first, and LAST time I bought something touted by a president, or a presidential candidate, it was a ball cap stating Nay Vets for McCain.

how many autographed prayer rugs have you bought from Obama?

 

[Auld Phart]

Frank's feeling particularly violent and Stalinist today.

And yes, I know that Frank definitely wants me sent to the camps, even more than he wants liberals in general sent to the camps. If Stalin was alive today, he'd tell Frank to tone down the Stalinism.

Only one side weaponizes governemnt, the right. It's been their M.O. since the Nixon admin. It's all they do. Then, in fine PRAVDA fashion, they lie openly and pretend the left does it, to justify doing it even more. They suck so badly at the lying and gaslighting, but TheParty has given them orders, and they can't disobey.

Enjoy Hell, Trump cultists. We'll be up in Heaven watching you roast. Read the story of Lazarus. You'll beg for Kamala Harris to bring you a drink of water, but a great abyss will lie between us, so we will be unable to help you.

We'll be up in Heaven watching you roast.

YOU, in HEAVEN?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, stop the nuttiness. A pardon is a pardon, it is constitutional, and nothing Frank this means anything to the process.

A preemptive pardon is an imaginary number

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Let me ring a bell for you.

Gerald R. Ford, and Richard M. Nixon.

Let me ring one for you.

Atticus Finch and John Lennon

See, I can pick 2 names unrelated to the OP too

Did Fords pardon go back 10 years?

Wasn’t Nixon impeached for and did the pardon relate to certain specific things, related to, um, Watergate?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Do you have any idea what a military tribunal is? Apparently not!

Well thought out response as always

 

[NetJedi]

Biden (aka Obama III) is cutting new ground on his way out as the worst President ever, a little worse than FDR

The idea of a "preemptive" pardon is absurd on its face and impossible to stand any legal challenge

That said would the Deep State Terrorists preemptively "pardoned" be free from facing a military tribunal?

Doesn't matter, private citizens in the United States aren't subject to Military Trials (i.e. The Uniform Code of Military Justice), unless of course we're under Martial Law.

 

[postman]

Did Fords pardon go back 10 years?

Had Nixon been in office that long, it would have.

 

[postman]

Doesn't matter, private citizens in the United States aren't subject to Military Trials (i.e. The Uniform Code of Military Justice), unless of course we're under Martial Law.

Or are considered "enemy combatants" and are sitting in GITMO.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

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[NetJedi]

Or are considered "enemy combatants" and are sitting in GITMO.

That is true, however US Citizens that are designated as "enemy combatants" by the Federal Executive Branch still have the Constitutionally protected right to due process in which they may challenge the validity of that designation in a civilian court of law (SCOTUS: Hamdi v. Rumsfeld).

However, I don't think this particular situation applies to what the OP was asking, the relevant precedent to the OP's question is SCOTUS: Schick v. Reed, in which the court held that the President's Constitutional Pardon and Commutation power is applicable for cases tried under the UCMJ.

 

[boevans]

A preemptive pardon is an imaginary number

Your brain is spinning on neutral again?

 

[boevans]

That is true, however US Citizens that are designated as "enemy combatants" by the Federal Executive Branch still have the Constitutionally protected right to due process in which they may challenge the validity of that designation in a civilian court of law (SCOTUS: Hamdi v. Rumsfeld).

However, I don't think this particular situation applies to what the OP was asking, the relevant precedent to the OP's question is SCOTUS: Schick v. Reed, in which the court held that the President's Constitutional Pardon and Commutation power is applicable for cases tried under the UCMJ.

Thank you, NetJedi, I did not know that the UCMJ has been incorporated under federal power.

 

[boevans]

Let me ring one for you.

Atticus Finch and John Lennon

See, I can pick 2 names unrelated to the OP too

Did Fords pardon go back 10 years?

Wasn’t Nixon impeached for and did the pardon relate to certain specific things, related to, um, Watergate?

Ford and Nixon work. Crusader and Frank do not.

 

[Auld Phart]

Doesn't matter, private citizens in the United States aren't subject to Military Trials (i.e. The Uniform Code of Military Justice), unless of course we're under Martial Law.

Does that include the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces?

 

[boevans]

Does that include the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces?

If POTUS was removed from the duties of his office by the Armed Forces, sure.