Do not fall for people who CLAIM TO BE LIBERTARIAN, only to censor speech more than anyone else

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Ask the Libertarians on this board. There are some who claim as such. No one will admit to voting for Jo Jorgensen.

They are just lying left wing communists.

Didn’t vote for Gary Johnson either time, didn’t vote for Jo Jorgensen, and not voting for Chase Oliver either.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Real-Life Orwellian

Using "they" with a singular antecedent is collectivist. The toxic clique that started this anti-grammar designed it to be that way, knowing perfectly well that the way something is said affects the thinking process.

You don't understand your own principles. If your Influencers don't point out this form of mind control, let them lead no one.

What

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Elon Musk censors like nobody's business.

He is the epitome of a hypocrite.

Does Elon Musk claim to be a libertarian? I don’t think he does, and I don’t think anybody thinks he is.

 

[g5000]

The very same right wing which defended George W. Bush with the same vehemence and vigor as they do for Trump today won't even admit they liked Bush.

Because Trump has led them leftward and besmirched Bush while sucking off Putin. Like good little submissive cucks, the horde now parrots Trump's contempt for Bush.

And that, boys, and girls, is how you know these weak-minded brainless twerps will deny ever loving Trump ten years from now.

 

[g5000]

Does Elon Musk claim to be a libertarian? I don’t think he does, and I don’t think anybody thinks he is.

Musk claims to be all-in on free speech, but he's full of shit.

 

[dblack]

I'm not afraid of Libertarians. I just think they are clueless fools who know absolutely nothing about human nature.

You're certainly entitled to your own stupid opinion.

I just think it's funny that people keep posting these threads slamming Libertarians. They insist we're fringe flakes with no influence, so I don't get what they're so worried about.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Musk claims to be all-in on free speech, but he's full of shit.

I agree he’s a fraud on free speech, I’m not sure it’s relevant to a thread about libertarianism though.

 

[progressive hunter]

What incredible ignorance! Who started this idiotic meme? Do you not have a single free thought in your pointy head?!?

Hey. Maybe you'll believe this guy:

Read Trump's Jan. 6 Speech​

​

We're gathered together in the heart of our nation's capital for one very, very basic and simple reason: To save our democracy.

Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy.

Today, for the sake of our democracy, for the sake of our Constitution, and for the sake of our children, we lay out the case for the entire world to hear.

It's all part of the comprehensive assault on our democracy, and the American people are finally standing up and saying no.


"It's all part of the comprehensive assault on our democracy" said the guy just moments before the assault on our democracy.

still a republic not a democracy,,

and in our republic you are allowed to contest an election,,

I know that hurts your feelings but I dont care

 

[progressive hunter]

If I was dictator, I would have every schoolchild read Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville.

You CLEARLY need to.

great choice,,

but we are still a republic not a democracy,,

 

[g5000]

Heh. I still stand by what I said in that topic in 2020.

"The Republican party has somehow managed to become the whackiest of all whackadoos, and they are starting to make the Libertarian Party look good.

"That's how badly our country has fallen, folks. Libertarians are starting to look like the sane people in the room."

 

[g5000]

still a republic not a democracy,,

and in our republic you are allowed to contest an election,,

I know that hurts your feelings but I dont care

Hey, it is your right to be an idiot.

We are a democratic republic.

Contest an election is one thing. But when Trump repeatedly lost in court, he went another route and attempted a coup, and that is NOT allowed.

I know that hurts your feelings, but I don't care.

 

[buttercup]

Does Elon Musk claim to be a libertarian? I don’t think he does, and I don’t think anybody thinks he is.

In recent years a lot of people seem to think he's a conservative or patriot...which to me just confirms my view that we're living in a time of massive deception.

 

[progressive hunter]

Hey, it is your right to be an idiot.

We are a democratic republic.

Contest an election is one thing. But when Trump repeatedly lost in court, he went another route and attempted a coup, and that is NOT allowed.

I know that hurts your feelings, but I don't care.

we are a constitutional republic,,


but i will let your mistake slide since you used republic,,

 

[g5000]

Ask the Libertarians on this board. There are some who claim as such. No one will admit to voting for Jo Jorgensen.

There is something you obviously don't understand about Libertarians. That is understandable in this age of Orwellian obedience to a man whose behaviors, opinions, and statements flux all over the map.

Libertarians are some of the most diehard principled people you will ever meet. They don't throw all of their principles out the window like these Trumptards do.

I might think they are whackadoos, but I respect their faithfulness to their cause and their beliefs.

They also allow a wide variety of opinions in their organization, unlike the Trump cult which excommunicates you and makes you wear a RINO label on your shirt if you don't bow down to Dear Leader.

 

[g5000]

we are a constitutional republic,,


but i will let your mistake slide since you used republic,,

We are a representative democracy. I have no idea why this recently became an issue for the retards. It's fucking weird.


Here are Alexander Hamilton's notes on the ratification of the Constitution:

Founders Online: New York Ratifying Convention. Notes for Speech of July 12, [1 …​

New York Ratifying Convention. Notes for Speech of July 12, [12 July 1788]

founders.archives.gov

I. A republic a word used in various senses.
Has been applied to aristocracies and monarchies.
1. To Rome under the Kings.
2. To Sparta though a Senate for life.
3. To Carthage though the same.
4. To United Netherlands, though Stadholder, Hereditary nobles:
5. To Poland though aristocracy and monarchy
6. To Great Britain though Monarchy &c

II. Again great confusion about the words. Democracy, Aristocracy, Monarch.

I. Democracy defined by some Rousseau &c A government exercised by the collective body of the People 2 Delegation of their power has been made the criterion of Aristocracy II. Aristocracy has been used to designate governments. 1. Where an independent few possessed sovereignty. 2. Where the representatives of the people possessed it. III. Monarchy, where sovereignty in the hands of a single man ☞ General idea—Independent in his situation. in any other sense would apply to State of New York

III. Democracy in my sense, where the whole power of the government in the people
I. Whether exercised by themselves, or 2. By their representatives chosen by them either mediately or immediately and legally accountable to them.

.	Aristocracy where whole sovereignty is permanently in the hands of a few for life or hereditary
V.	Monarchy where the whole sovereignty is in the hands of one man for life or hereditary.
VI.	Mixed government when these three principles unite.
B.	Consequence, the proposed government a representative democracy.	I.

As you can plainly see, Hamilton outlined the different kinds of Republics. Monarchical, Aristocratic, and Democratic.

The US was choosing the Representative Democratic model.

 

[g5000]

God only knows how many copies I have bought of this greatest political science book of all time.

You can be sure no Trump cult member has read it. It's longer than a tweet.

https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-America-Alexis-Tocqueville/dp/0226805360/?tag=usmb-20

 

[progressive hunter]

We are a representative democracy. I have no idea why this recently became an issue for the retards. It's fucking weird.


Here are Alexander Hamilton's notes on the ratification of the Constitution:

Founders Online: New York Ratifying Convention. Notes for Speech of July 12, [1 …​

New York Ratifying Convention. Notes for Speech of July 12, [12 July 1788]

founders.archives.gov

I. A republic a word used in various senses.
Has been applied to aristocracies and monarchies.
1. To Rome under the Kings.
2. To Sparta though a Senate for life.
3. To Carthage though the same.
4. To United Netherlands, though Stadholder, Hereditary nobles:
5. To Poland though aristocracy and monarchy
6. To Great Britain though Monarchy &c

II. Again great confusion about the words. Democracy, Aristocracy, Monarch.

I. Democracy defined by some Rousseau &c A government exercised by the collective body of the People 2 Delegation of their power has been made the criterion of Aristocracy II. Aristocracy has been used to designate governments. 1. Where an independent few possessed sovereignty. 2. Where the representatives of the people possessed it. III. Monarchy, where sovereignty in the hands of a single man ☞ General idea—Independent in his situation. in any other sense would apply to State of New York

III. Democracy in my sense, where the whole power of the government in the people
I. Whether exercised by themselves, or 2. By their representatives chosen by them either mediately or immediately and legally accountable to them.

.	Aristocracy where whole sovereignty is permanently in the hands of a few for life or hereditary
V.	Monarchy where the whole sovereignty is in the hands of one man for life or hereditary.
VI.	Mixed government when these three principles unite.
B.	Consequence, the proposed government a representative democracy.	I.

As you can plainly see, Hamilton outlined the different kinds of Republics. Monarchical, Aristocratic, and Democratic.

The US was choosing the Representative Democratic model.

for the love of god pick one,,
first you say we are a democracy then you went to democratic republic now you on about a representative democracy,,

FFS pick one

we are a constitutional republic plain and simple,,

not a democratic republic where the people can vote to change it,

 

[g5000]

Democracy's Next Battle by Ronald Reagan.

"The only cure for what ails democracy is - more democracy."

 

[g5000]

Sooo...as I was saying.

Trump attempted to overthrow our democracy.

Even a dolt as dumb as Trump knows this is "our democracy".

 

[progressive hunter]

Sooo...as I was saying.

Trump attempted to overthrow our democracy.

Even a dolt as dumb as Trump knows this is "our democracy".

and as I explained then

we are a republic not a democracy,,

and because we are anyone can contest the election all they want,,

get over it,,