K9Buck
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Do you always mix your booze and your meds?....you really need to stop it......
Answer the question coward.
No moron, they are not given a power of restraint, no one says they are.......you seem to be seeking to make a lame point.
The statistics....the truth, that thing you hide from.....shows that normal Americans with guns show amazing levels of restraint when it comes to using their guns or not using their guns. You can't deny that, so you come up with silly games to hide that truth.
As more Americans own and carry guns for self defense.....from about 4.7 million back in the 1990s, to now more than 18.6 million....our gun murder rate went down 49%....our gun crime rate went down 75%....showing that normal people who own and carry guns are not driven to violence because they own guns...
You can't hide that fact. That fact destroys the entire basis for your desire to take guns away from normal people.
Other research goes on to show that people with concealed carry permits are actually more law abiding than the average citizen, and even more law abiding than sworn police officers.
That is a fact...a fact you hate because it too undermines your argument about guns causing crime and violence.
Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....
More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.
Actual Result:
In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%
The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....
In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.
Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...
While all of that is interesting, and , as always, I'm impressed with your vast stores of cut and paste rhetoric that you can access on a moment's notice, it has nothing to do with what I asked. The claim has been made that gun owners use incredible restraint. I just asked what the source of that restraint is. I can only see a few possibilities, and no gun nut has offered any other theories yet,
1. Buying a gun imparts incredible restraint on the purchaser.
2. Gun owners naturally have incredible restraint, even before they purchase a gun. For some reason, these people who possess that incredible restraint are the only, or vast majority of people who ever purchase a gun.
Either way, identifying a segment of the population that has incredible restraint is notable, and worthy of study to find why those people share that particular characteristic. Of course, if it was just a bullshit remark, it wouldn't be that much different than so many other bullshit remarks that gun nuts spout all the time.
Again, great cut and paste, it just had nothing to do with my question
It has everything to do with your question....and because it points to the truth, you need to hide from it.......it destroys your entire argument against people owning and carrying guns for self defense.
I haven't argued against either of those things in this thread. I did say it takes a coward to feel so afraid of real life till they think they need to be armed 24/7.
Why begrudge law-abiding people for wanting to carry a gun? Why do you attack and ridicule them? Responsible, capable citizens SHOULD carry, in my view. Why do attack such people?