Do liberals even like this country?

[WEATHER53]

they complain about our gun policies compared to other countries, education, taxation, elections, social safety nets, the wealthy, businesses, healthcare, and a host of other things.

So it seems to me they don't care for much about this country other than they were born here.

The right complain about these things all the time too.

Yes we do, but what we don't do is say we should do X like other countries because they do it so much better. We want to improve on the things we have.

And you might improve on those things by looking at how countries do things.

Right wing Americans have this thing. It's a horrible egotistical thing "How dare anybody in the world tell us how to do stuff. We are America. We lead the world in everything! We'll say no to good ideas because we didn't think of it!"

It's a retarded way of thinking....it's pathetic, too..

And we don't do it

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

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Well I'm sorry, but it does in sectors of our country. What are our social programs if not socialism? What is taking from the rich to give to the poor if not socialism? What is trying to make everybody "equal" if not socialism?

Why do you hold the rich in such high regard? Did you not see Franco's post?
If you take your ideals to the nth degree, do you know what you end up with? Bolivia. Peru. Mexico. Nicaragua. Brazil. They are countries where 1 percent of the people are uber rich, while 99 percent of the rest are dirt poor. That is the reality. Your middle class has been disappearing for the past 20 years. What's the point of being rich when the stuff you got rich off is unaffordable to 99 per cent of the population.

Our middle-class has disappeared due to automation, taxation and unions. Oh yes......and I can't forget social programs either.

Thanks to social programs, people here don't try to succeed anymore. Stay home, don't worry about working, and the working will take care of you.

It has led to failure and a reduction in middle-class people. It has nothing to do with the rich.

Years ago the left promoted single-parent families. After years of that growth, it was learned that single-parent families are directly related to poverty.

And let's not forget the lefts position on immigration--especially on illegal immigration. They come here, take our jobs for lower wages, and that brings down wages for every American in the country.

So don't be so quick to blame the rich. The rich have nothing to do with it.

 

[WEATHER53]

During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

One person made you question millions..Why am I not surprised...

No, it's been a series of liberals for a long time; longer than I've been on this forum. They all do the same thing because they've been trained the same way.

Here is how it goes which is why time to shut it off:
Conservative makes a fact based observation
Liberal name calls-homophobic, racist, sexist
Conservative rebuts with fact
Liberal name calls directt personal attack
Conservative shuts down liberal with rebuttal and liberal reports racist post
Liberal tries to turn arguement around and back onto conservative and we move on to the next one
Who else has seen this hundreds of time since around election and after?

 

[Dr Grump]

Our middle-class has disappeared due to automation, taxation and unions. Oh yes......and I can't forget social programs either.

Thanks to social programs, people here don't try to succeed anymore. Stay home, don't worry about working, and the working will take care of you.

It has led to failure and a reduction in middle-class people. It has nothing to do with the rich.

Years ago the left promoted single-parent families. After years of that growth, it was learned that single-parent families are directly related to poverty.

And let's not forget the lefts position on immigration--especially on illegal immigration. They come here, take our jobs for lower wages, and that brings down wages for every American in the country.

So don't be so quick to blame the rich. The rich have nothing to do with it.

This is such generic unprovable BS. Especially the part about social programs. Are there lazy arses around? You betcha. Are the majority of unemployed like that. No way. Most people I know have been unemployed at some point in their lives. usually for a very short time. Every single one of them hated it. Including me the three months after I got made redundant 15 years ago.

I know a tonne of successful single parents. I know a lot of disfunctional two-parent families. Your generic overtures are nothing but unprovable pap. I put you in the category of those long forgotten halcyon days of yesteryear. You might want to do a little research. Those 'good old days' were not so good for a lot of people.

 

[Si modo]

Our middle-class has disappeared due to automation, taxation and unions. Oh yes......and I can't forget social programs either.

Thanks to social programs, people here don't try to succeed anymore. Stay home, don't worry about working, and the working will take care of you.

It has led to failure and a reduction in middle-class people. It has nothing to do with the rich.

Years ago the left promoted single-parent families. After years of that growth, it was learned that single-parent families are directly related to poverty.

And let's not forget the lefts position on immigration--especially on illegal immigration. They come here, take our jobs for lower wages, and that brings down wages for every American in the country.

So don't be so quick to blame the rich. The rich have nothing to do with it.

What made the middle class strong, was government investment in infrastructure (and in WWII).

Neither of those investments have been a priority of our government for some time.

 

[WEATHER53]

We have a vibrant middle class
Let's talk about what we dont have and get it

 

[Moonglow]

We have a vibrant middle class
Let's talk about what we dont have and get it

Pebbles and Bam-Bam collector glasses...

 

[Flopper]

Stopping the pander to the rich brainwashing GOP is not becoming European, just fairer to the middle class, investing in our now 2nd class infrastructure and training services...

And regular people can't move anywhere unless they're millionaires and don't need to work or are married to a citizen of that country, or a doctor or some other occupation that's highly needed. It's just an ignorant comment.

Don't worry, if they want to go, we'll pony up the money to get rid of liberals here. It would be an investment.

It doesn't take millions to move to another country. Americans do it all the time, just watch HGTV sometime and you will see poor liberals doing exactly that.

Maybe you should stop and remember this country doesn't belong to you, conservatives or republicans..

No it doesn't, but since we are not a socialist society yet, it's the conservatives that will help stop it from being that way. Remember: once liberals ruin this place and turn it into all the others, there is no other USA to move to. Unlike other liberal and socialist countries, there is only one USA.

Maybe you should stop worrying about the worry and fear and see that socialism is nothing to fear since it doesn't exist in the US.

Well I'm sorry, but it does in sectors of our country. What are our social programs if not socialism? What is taking from the rich to give to the poor if not socialism? What is trying to make everybody "equal" if not socialism?

Central to the meaning of socialism is common ownership. This means the resources of the nation are being owned in common by the entire population. With the top 20% of Americans owning 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 15% barely making ends meet, I would say we are a long way from being a socialist nation. In fact, the nation is moving in the opposite direction. The top 1% of US households has quadrupled it's income over the last thirty years while the bottom 10% has barely changed.

 

[Flopper]

Stopping the pander to the rich brainwashing GOP is not becoming European, just fairer to the middle class, investing in our now 2nd class infrastructure and training services...

And regular people can't move anywhere unless they're millionaires and don't need to work or are married to a citizen of that country, or a doctor or some other occupation that's highly needed. It's just an ignorant comment.

Don't worry, if they want to go, we'll pony up the money to get rid of liberals here. It would be an investment.

It doesn't take millions to move to another country. Americans do it all the time, just watch HGTV sometime and you will see poor liberals doing exactly that.

Maybe you should stop and remember this country doesn't belong to you, conservatives or republicans..

No it doesn't, but since we are not a socialist society yet, it's the conservatives that will help stop it from being that way. Remember: once liberals ruin this place and turn it into all the others, there is no other USA to move to. Unlike other liberal and socialist countries, there is only one USA.

Maybe you should stop worrying about the worry and fear and see that socialism is nothing to fear since it doesn't exist in the US.

Well I'm sorry, but it does in sectors of our country. What are our social programs if not socialism? What is taking from the rich to give to the poor if not socialism? What is trying to make everybody "equal" if not socialism?

Social programs are not socialism. They can be a step toward socialism just as private ownership can be a step toward capitalism. Having many social programs does not make a socialist nation any more than having a lot of private ownership make a capitalist nation. The success of social program determines whether it promotes more socialism or more capitalism.

 

[francoHFW]

During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

In a nutshell? No they don't like the US. But that's not the worst part. What exactly do they want?

They want socialism, and prosperity. Without having businesses to provide that prosperity or people having to work for it.

They want equal rights for women and gays, but they also want muslim laws.

They want transgender stories be considered normal, kill unborn children and reduce the population, and somehow keep social programs afloat.

They want to cut the military down to nothing, and at the same time take citizens guns away. How they expect to defend the country is a mystery.

These are the real issues with being a left wing nut. They don't like this country, but won't move to another one. They would prefer to **** up this one.

BS, hater dupe. Absolutely clueless and brainwashed. Dems don't like what the New BS pander to the rich GOP has done to the country the last 35 years. The leftists you're brainwashed about are less than 1% and ARE nuts...The RWNJs you're one of are about half the GOP. Great job, New BS GOP bs/hate propaganda machine.

I always look forward to hearing from you Franco, it's the drug fueled crazy I miss the most.

Stil, your hate for the Clintons, for the Dems etc is all manufatured BS from the greedy ying GOP rich, dupe. Again, dupe doesn't mean yo're stupid. It's a gd good propaganda machine, and huge. Somehow seems to stop the Dems and journalists from doing their job well. Big money.

Of course Dems want prosperity and get it when in power. We love small businesses- That's crazy talk.

Muslim law only in mosques at most. Not me. A smaller military MAYBE, A good background check- no one wants your guns.

You can't just move LOL. Your whole post is hateful bs...THAT is what's wrong with America. The GOP and its crap and the hater dupes...See sig last line. Nothing personal, get it...

 

[Thinker101]

During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

In a nutshell? No they don't like the US. But that's not the worst part. What exactly do they want?

They want socialism, and prosperity. Without having businesses to provide that prosperity or people having to work for it.

They want equal rights for women and gays, but they also want muslim laws.

They want transgender stories be considered normal, kill unborn children and reduce the population, and somehow keep social programs afloat.

They want to cut the military down to nothing, and at the same time take citizens guns away. How they expect to defend the country is a mystery.

These are the real issues with being a left wing nut. They don't like this country, but won't move to another one. They would prefer to **** up this one.

BS, hater dupe. Absolutely clueless and brainwashed. Dems don't like what the New BS pander to the rich GOP has done to the country the last 35 years. The leftists you're brainwashed about are less than 1% and ARE nuts...The RWNJs you're one of are about half the GOP. Great job, New BS GOP bs/hate propaganda machine.

I always look forward to hearing from you Franco, it's the drug fueled crazy I miss the most.

Stil, your hate for the Clintons, for the Dems etc is all manufatured BS from the greedy ying GOP rich, dupe. Again, dupe doesn't mean yo're stupid. It's a gd good propaganda machine, and huge. Somehow seems to stop the Dems and journalists from doing their job well. Big money.

Of course Dems want prosperity and get it when in power. We love small businesses- That's crazy talk.

Muslim law only in mosques at most. Not me. A smaller military MAYBE, A good background check- no one wants your guns.

You can't just move LOL. Your whole post is hateful bs...THAT is what's wrong with America. The GOP and its crap and the hater dupes...See sig last line. Nothing personal, get it...

That is correct, Dems do want prosperity and get it when in power, take a look at the net worth of Pelosi, Harry Reid, Clintons, Obamas....do you seriously think any of them would have come close in the private sector. You could even add Bernie Sanders to that list now.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

In a nutshell? No they don't like the US. But that's not the worst part. What exactly do they want?

They want socialism, and prosperity. Without having businesses to provide that prosperity or people having to work for it.

They want equal rights for women and gays, but they also want muslim laws.

They want transgender stories be considered normal, kill unborn children and reduce the population, and somehow keep social programs afloat.

They want to cut the military down to nothing, and at the same time take citizens guns away. How they expect to defend the country is a mystery.

These are the real issues with being a left wing nut. They don't like this country, but won't move to another one. They would prefer to **** up this one.

BS, hater dupe. Absolutely clueless and brainwashed. Dems don't like what the New BS pander to the rich GOP has done to the country the last 35 years. The leftists you're brainwashed about are less than 1% and ARE nuts...The RWNJs you're one of are about half the GOP. Great job, New BS GOP bs/hate propaganda machine.

I always look forward to hearing from you Franco, it's the drug fueled crazy I miss the most.

Stil, your hate for the Clintons, for the Dems etc is all manufatured BS from the greedy ying GOP rich, dupe. Again, dupe doesn't mean yo're stupid. It's a gd good propaganda machine, and huge. Somehow seems to stop the Dems and journalists from doing their job well. Big money.

Of course Dems want prosperity and get it when in power. We love small businesses- That's crazy talk.

Muslim law only in mosques at most. Not me. A smaller military MAYBE, A good background check- no one wants your guns.

You can't just move LOL. Your whole post is hateful bs...THAT is what's wrong with America. The GOP and its crap and the hater dupes...See sig last line. Nothing personal, get it...

So that was a boatload of drunken crazy.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

In a nutshell? No they don't like the US. But that's not the worst part. What exactly do they want?

They want socialism, and prosperity. Without having businesses to provide that prosperity or people having to work for it.

They want equal rights for women and gays, but they also want muslim laws.

They want transgender stories be considered normal, kill unborn children and reduce the population, and somehow keep social programs afloat.

They want to cut the military down to nothing, and at the same time take citizens guns away. How they expect to defend the country is a mystery.

These are the real issues with being a left wing nut. They don't like this country, but won't move to another one. They would prefer to **** up this one.

BS, hater dupe. Absolutely clueless and brainwashed. Dems don't like what the New BS pander to the rich GOP has done to the country the last 35 years. The leftists you're brainwashed about are less than 1% and ARE nuts...The RWNJs you're one of are about half the GOP. Great job, New BS GOP bs/hate propaganda machine.

I always look forward to hearing from you Franco, it's the drug fueled crazy I miss the most.

Stil, your hate for the Clintons, for the Dems etc is all manufatured BS from the greedy ying GOP rich, dupe. Again, dupe doesn't mean yo're stupid. It's a gd good propaganda machine, and huge. Somehow seems to stop the Dems and journalists from doing their job well. Big money.

Of course Dems want prosperity and get it when in power. We love small businesses- That's crazy talk.

Muslim law only in mosques at most. Not me. A smaller military MAYBE, A good background check- no one wants your guns.

You can't just move LOL. Your whole post is hateful bs...THAT is what's wrong with America. The GOP and its crap and the hater dupes...See sig last line. Nothing personal, get it...

That is correct, Dems do want prosperity and get it when in power, take a look at the net worth of Pelosi, Harry Reid, Clintons, Obamas....do you seriously think any of them would have come close in the private sector. You could even add Bernie Sanders to that list now.

For dems prosperity can only come from the government. Those in it get insanely rich and the poor get their social program checks just to live. They don't ever mean real prosperity it must be controlled.

 

[francoHFW]

Don't worry, if they want to go, we'll pony up the money to get rid of liberals here. It would be an investment.

It doesn't take millions to move to another country. Americans do it all the time, just watch HGTV sometime and you will see poor liberals doing exactly that.

Maybe you should stop and remember this country doesn't belong to you, conservatives or republicans..

No it doesn't, but since we are not a socialist society yet, it's the conservatives that will help stop it from being that way. Remember: once liberals ruin this place and turn it into all the others, there is no other USA to move to. Unlike other liberal and socialist countries, there is only one USA.

Maybe you should stop worrying about the worry and fear and see that socialism is nothing to fear since it doesn't exist in the US.

Well I'm sorry, but it does in sectors of our country. What are our social programs if not socialism? What is taking from the rich to give to the poor if not socialism? What is trying to make everybody "equal" if not socialism?

Central to the meaning of socialism is common ownership. This means the resources of the nation are being owned in common by the entire population. With the top 20% of Americans owning 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 15% barely making ends meet, I would say we are a long way from being a socialist nation. In fact, the nation is moving in the opposite direction. The top 1% of US households has quadrupled it's income over the last thirty years while the bottom 10% has barely changed.

Ownership or REGULATION. All ownership is COMMUNISM, except in terminally misinformed dupeworld.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Maybe you should stop and remember this country doesn't belong to you, conservatives or republicans..

No it doesn't, but since we are not a socialist society yet, it's the conservatives that will help stop it from being that way. Remember: once liberals ruin this place and turn it into all the others, there is no other USA to move to. Unlike other liberal and socialist countries, there is only one USA.

Maybe you should stop worrying about the worry and fear and see that socialism is nothing to fear since it doesn't exist in the US.

Well I'm sorry, but it does in sectors of our country. What are our social programs if not socialism? What is taking from the rich to give to the poor if not socialism? What is trying to make everybody "equal" if not socialism?

Central to the meaning of socialism is common ownership. This means the resources of the nation are being owned in common by the entire population. With the top 20% of Americans owning 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 15% barely making ends meet, I would say we are a long way from being a socialist nation. In fact, the nation is moving in the opposite direction. The top 1% of US households has quadrupled it's income over the last thirty years while the bottom 10% has barely changed.

Ownership or REGULATION. All ownership is COMMUNISM, except in terminally misinformed dupeworld.

The government will determine your wage scales, who you will sell to and what price you can charge along with where you can do business and how many of each race of person you will employ.

It's just regulation.

 

[francoHFW]

Don't worry, if they want to go, we'll pony up the money to get rid of liberals here. It would be an investment.

It doesn't take millions to move to another country. Americans do it all the time, just watch HGTV sometime and you will see poor liberals doing exactly that.

Maybe you should stop and remember this country doesn't belong to you, conservatives or republicans..

No it doesn't, but since we are not a socialist society yet, it's the conservatives that will help stop it from being that way. Remember: once liberals ruin this place and turn it into all the others, there is no other USA to move to. Unlike other liberal and socialist countries, there is only one USA.

Maybe you should stop worrying about the worry and fear and see that socialism is nothing to fear since it doesn't exist in the US.

Well I'm sorry, but it does in sectors of our country. What are our social programs if not socialism? What is taking from the rich to give to the poor if not socialism? What is trying to make everybody "equal" if not socialism?

Social programs are not socialism. They can be a step toward socialism just as private ownership can be a step toward capitalism. Having many social programs does not make a socialist nation any more than having a lot of private ownership make a capitalist nation. The success of social program determines whether it promotes more socialism or more capitalism.

Sociailism is fair, well regulated, intelligent, and ALWAYS democratic capitalism, dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

No it doesn't, but since we are not a socialist society yet, it's the conservatives that will help stop it from being that way. Remember: once liberals ruin this place and turn it into all the others, there is no other USA to move to. Unlike other liberal and socialist countries, there is only one USA.

Maybe you should stop worrying about the worry and fear and see that socialism is nothing to fear since it doesn't exist in the US.

Well I'm sorry, but it does in sectors of our country. What are our social programs if not socialism? What is taking from the rich to give to the poor if not socialism? What is trying to make everybody "equal" if not socialism?

Central to the meaning of socialism is common ownership. This means the resources of the nation are being owned in common by the entire population. With the top 20% of Americans owning 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 15% barely making ends meet, I would say we are a long way from being a socialist nation. In fact, the nation is moving in the opposite direction. The top 1% of US households has quadrupled it's income over the last thirty years while the bottom 10% has barely changed.

Ownership or REGULATION. All ownership is COMMUNISM, except in terminally misinformed dupeworld.

The government will determine your wage scales, who you will sell to and what price you can charge along with where you can do business and how many of each race of person you will employ.

It's just regulation.

Like in what socialist country, dupe? NONE. Very scary tho, cold war dinosaur.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Maybe you should stop worrying about the worry and fear and see that socialism is nothing to fear since it doesn't exist in the US.

Well I'm sorry, but it does in sectors of our country. What are our social programs if not socialism? What is taking from the rich to give to the poor if not socialism? What is trying to make everybody "equal" if not socialism?

Central to the meaning of socialism is common ownership. This means the resources of the nation are being owned in common by the entire population. With the top 20% of Americans owning 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 15% barely making ends meet, I would say we are a long way from being a socialist nation. In fact, the nation is moving in the opposite direction. The top 1% of US households has quadrupled it's income over the last thirty years while the bottom 10% has barely changed.

Ownership or REGULATION. All ownership is COMMUNISM, except in terminally misinformed dupeworld.

The government will determine your wage scales, who you will sell to and what price you can charge along with where you can do business and how many of each race of person you will employ.

It's just regulation.

Like in what socialist country, dupe? NONE. Very scary tho, cold war dinosaur.

Venezuela? Cuba? China? This Dino seems to be pretty alive and well.

 

[Votto]

Liberals created this country in 1776

While the country at that time was the best our founders could do. Liberals realized we could do better......end slavery, women's rights, worker rights, civil rights, environmental protections, gay rights.

Conservatives fought every inch of the way

Wait......wut? Liberals created this country?

So the British wished to confiscate all armed weapons and ammo. Check.

The British wanted to tax the poo out of the colonists so they could pay their fair share. Check.

Then these liberal colonists revolted? I had no idea liberals once hated taxes and the idea of a world without guns and ammo.

What changed exactly?

 

[francoHFW]

Well I'm sorry, but it does in sectors of our country. What are our social programs if not socialism? What is taking from the rich to give to the poor if not socialism? What is trying to make everybody "equal" if not socialism?

Central to the meaning of socialism is common ownership. This means the resources of the nation are being owned in common by the entire population. With the top 20% of Americans owning 85% of the country's wealth and the bottom 15% barely making ends meet, I would say we are a long way from being a socialist nation. In fact, the nation is moving in the opposite direction. The top 1% of US households has quadrupled it's income over the last thirty years while the bottom 10% has barely changed.

Ownership or REGULATION. All ownership is COMMUNISM, except in terminally misinformed dupeworld.

The government will determine your wage scales, who you will sell to and what price you can charge along with where you can do business and how many of each race of person you will employ.

It's just regulation.

Like in what socialist country, dupe? NONE. Very scary tho, cold war dinosaur.

Venezuela? Cuba? China? This Dino seems to be pretty alive and well.

Not Venezuela. That's still socialist, tho a mess.. Communist dictatorships, ok. Duh, cold war dinosaur dupe. Think Australia and NZ.