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Do "Farm Subsidies" prove the GOP base are dupes?

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To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?
 

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That'd be a nice gig to have - to be paid to not grow crops.
 
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Some Republicans are for farm subsidies - usually the ones receiving them - and some are against farm subsidies - usually those not receiving them.
So you are saying there is a divide in the GOP among the base and the leadership. Only the leadership always wins and only gets worse.
 

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That'd be a nice gig to have - to be paid to not grow crops.

That was FDR's great idea, remember?

How wonderful would it be to actually end these FDR Depression Programs?
 

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And some are against ALL subsidies.
 

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Every Country on Earth subsidizes its Farmers. At least, the intelligent ones do.

Here's a news flash for you STUPID fucking dimocrap scumbags.....

We can live and do very well without our iPhones, iPads, and Colleges. Might actually be better off without them. debatable

We can live without cars, without washers and dryers and blue jeans and expensive shampoo and coffee and underwire bras and virtually everything else that you've come to expect from a modern civilization (brought to you by Conservatives; you are NOT welcome)

But one thing we can NOT do without is Farmers.

That is why every Country on Earth subsidizes Farms and Farmers

You dims are seriously too stupid to live. Honest to God, you really are
 

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The Farm Bill Still Gives Wads of Cash to Agribusiness. It's Just Sneakier About It.
By David Dayen @ddayen
The Senate passed on Thursday a farm bill that took two years to complete. Most of the discussion around the bill—and the reason for the delay—concerns the level of cuts to food stamps, which wound up at $8.7 billion over 10 years (about 1 percent of the overall program). But while the parties argued about how much food to take away from poor people, it’s just as revealing to look at the area where they both agreed. Democrats and Republicans alike have pointed to the repeal of $4.5 billion in annual direct cash payments, a long disfavored policy where farmers received a fixed amount of money for every acre they owned, regardless of whether it was planted. The Senate will “end outdated and unnecessary subsidies,” said lead Democratic negotiator Debbie Stabenow on Monday. Her Republican counterpart, House Agriculture Committee chair Frank Lucas, oncesupported direct payments, but highlighted their repeal upon House passage of the bill. “Don’t underestimate the magnitude of the reforms,” he said last week.

But don’t be fooled: The politicians patting themselves on the back for repealing subsidies to farmers have found a surreptitious way to deposit these savings right back in the pocket of agribusiness. That’s because the farm bill will expand subsidies for crop insurance, which looks like a private-sector program but which actually hands over virtually the same amount of taxpayer money to farmers, mostly wealthy ones, as the old direct payment program. What’s more, the shift from direct payments to crop insurance ensures that those handouts can be distributed in a hidden, more politically palatable way, making it more difficult to ever dislodge them.



You should read the entire article. Why don't you explain how this is a good idea. You talk all the time about cutting government spending. There it is. And you don't want to cut it. Why?

Can you explain what the crop subsidies are doing for me if I a tax payer have to pay the premium and cover the loss a farmer might have due to weather? Thought you were a free market kinda guy. Guess not eh?

Is this like welfare for farmers? People loose their jobs, get welfare. Farmers loose their crops, get welfare, The difference is? The farmers get a LOT more money.
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
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joni ernst family farm subsidies
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To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?

Once again your flat on your face,Farm subsidies where and are a dem and idea mostly supported by them.
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
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joni ernst family farm subsidies
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To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?

Once again your flat on your face,Farm subsidies where and are a dem and idea mostly supported by them.

And I support the idea. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then.

One thing you don't mess with is food production. You just don't do it.

Remember (of course not, none of us do, but did you ever read about..) what happened in Russia and Red China when they thought they had a better idea?


I'm kinda addicted to food. Hard habit to kick
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
Google

joni ernst family farm subsidies
Google

To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?


As a Republican, I am for breakfast and lunch for disadvantaged children, student loans as long as it doesn't cripple the student with interest for the next 20 years, help for the poor, and drug testing of the poor and finding jobs for the poor, continued health care for the poor just as we always have, and allowing parents to pass on what they have to their children.

One of those things we would like to pass on to our children, are the farms that have been in our families for generations. For the first time in hundreds of years we can no longer do that. The farms have to be sold to pay the death taxes. It is criminal.

A dairy farmer here, figured out his hourly wage and for all, and I mean all of the hard work to keep the farm running, he makes about 15 cents an hour. Most of the farmers here get up at 3 am to feed the animals and bring in hay, and get done what they can before they leave for work. The rest gets done when they get home. Then supper, then to bed because they are exhausted.

So yes, subsidies are a necessity if you want to eat. That hamburger you ate today used to need to be fed, vetted, and cared for on a daily basis.

How about not subsidizing Monsanto to genetically alter your food, and raise the private farm and ranch subsidies so the man who "grows" your milk can make 25 cents and hour.
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
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joni ernst family farm subsidies
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To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?
Very well said, thanks. I totally agree 110%. Subsidies are making the rich richer. I saw it first hand while working for the U.S.D.A. for ten years. I saw what rich farmers do with their subsidies. Some of them have their own private landing strip for their airplanes. You should see the homes they live in.
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
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joni ernst family farm subsidies
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To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?
Very well said, thanks. I totally agree 110%. Subsidies are making the rich richer. I saw it first hand while working for the U.S.D.A. for ten years. I saw what rich farmers do with their subsidies. Some of them have their own private landing strip for their airplanes. You should see the homes they live in.

That's because they're better than you.

Most of humanity is, actually.

Clean up your parents' basement. They're getting perturbed over the mess
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
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To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?
these aren't the only subsidies they are for. oil? weapons? nation states? any others?
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
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To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?
these aren't the only subsidies they are for. oil? weapons? nation states? any others?

All those you mentioned and many more all return something useful to the Country and the Public as a whole.

The only subsidized group/activity that returns SHIT is scumbag dimocraps.

All they do is breed more dependent leeches.

At least Farmers feed us, Oil Companies deliver gas and heating oil, Weapons and Munitions defend us, Nation States Trade with us.....

What do dimocraps give us in return? In return for the subsidies we give them that are more and bigger than ALL the rest of the subsidies combined.
 

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But one thing we can NOT do without is Farmers.
And Agriculture in all but its most rudimentary form would not exist without hydrocarbons.

Yet, the producers of hydrocarbons receive no such subsidies as does Agriculture.
There's no insurance against lost production due to weather (and yes there's plenty of that).
There are no price guarantees, no floors, no exemptions from sales taxes, no "set aside" production payments.

In other words, the hydrocarbon industries get it up the ass by the.... you guessed it... ass fucking farmer. :fu:
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
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joni ernst family farm subsidies
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To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?
these aren't the only subsidies they are for. oil? weapons? nation states? any others?

All those you mentioned and many more all return something useful to the Country and the Public as a whole.

The only subsidized group/activity that returns SHIT is scumbag dimocraps.

All they do is breed more dependent leeches.

At least Farmers feed us, Oil Companies deliver gas and heating oil, Weapons and Munitions defend us, Nation States Trade with us.....

What do dimocraps give us in return? In return for the subsidies we give them that are more and bigger than ALL the rest of the subsidies combined.
you are making excuses for your hippocracy. there are no excuse for it. stop.
 

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But one thing we can NOT do without is Farmers.
And Agriculture in all but its most rudimentary form would not exist without hydrocarbons.

Yet, the producers of hydrocarbons receive no such subsidies as does Agriculture.
There's no insurance against lost production due to weather (and yes there's plenty of that).
There are no price guarantees, no floors, no exemptions from sales taxes, no "set aside" production payments.

In other words, the hydrocarbon industries get it up the ass by the.... you guessed it... ass fucking farmer. :fu:

Hydrocarbon Industries receive no subsidies?

Seek help. Professional help.

douchebag...

Try eating a lump of coal. moron
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
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To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?
these aren't the only subsidies they are for. oil? weapons? nation states? any others?

All those you mentioned and many more all return something useful to the Country and the Public as a whole.

The only subsidized group/activity that returns SHIT is scumbag dimocraps.

All they do is breed more dependent leeches.

At least Farmers feed us, Oil Companies deliver gas and heating oil, Weapons and Munitions defend us, Nation States Trade with us.....

What do dimocraps give us in return? In return for the subsidies we give them that are more and bigger than ALL the rest of the subsidies combined.
you are making excuses for your hippocracy. there are no excuse for it. stop.

What are you..... 12?

It's 'hypocrisy' and I could spell it by the time I was 10.

Get an education
 

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republicans get millions in farm subsidies
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joni ernst family farm subsidies
Google

To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?
Very well said, thanks. I totally agree 110%. Subsidies are making the rich richer. I saw it first hand while working for the U.S.D.A. for ten years. I saw what rich farmers do with their subsidies. Some of them have their own private landing strip for their airplanes. You should see the homes they live in.

That's because they're better than you.

Most of humanity is, actually.

Clean up your parents' basement. They're getting perturbed over the mess
Very silly and childish. Your age? Do you feel better now that you've said that? Did it make your day? Do you think that you impressed anyone by saying it? Very cute and very immature.
 

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