Do "Farm Subsidies" prove the GOP base are dupes?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Keep in mind that everything FDR did prolonged the Depression

False.

As soon as FDR took us off the gold standard, our economy began recovering. The same thing happened with every country that went off the gold standard. As soon as they quit it, their economies began climbing out of the hole.

dear, any economy goes up and down a little but the Depression did not end till FDR finally and thankfully dropped dead in 1945.

also it is 100% stupid beyond words to say getting off a gold standard will boost an economy

 

[Mr. H.]

But one thing we can NOT do without is Farmers.

And Agriculture in all but its most rudimentary form would not exist without hydrocarbons.

Yet, the producers of hydrocarbons receive no such subsidies as does Agriculture.
There's no insurance against lost production due to weather (and yes there's plenty of that).
There are no price guarantees, no floors, no exemptions from sales taxes, no "set aside" production payments.

In other words, the hydrocarbon industries get it up the ass by the.... you guessed it... ass ******* farmer.

Hydrocarbon Industries receive no subsidies?

Seek help. Professional help.

douchebag...

Try eating a lump of coal. moron

Brotch, please.

After 38 years in this business, I've yet to see a single subsidy. Let's not go there.

 

[Mr Natural]

Keep in mind that everything FDR did prolonged the Depression

False.

As soon as FDR took us off the gold standard, our economy began recovering. The same thing happened with every country that went off the gold standard. As soon as they quit it, their economies began climbing out of the hole.

dear, any economy goes up and down a little but the Depression did not end till FDR finally and thankfully dropped dead in 1945.

also it is 100% stupid beyond words to say getting off a gold standard will boost an economy

Good God, what kind of a piece of shit says something like that? There is something very wrong with you.

You, "dear" are a scumbag of the highest order.

Now go **** yourself.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Keep in mind that everything FDR did prolonged the Depression

False.

As soon as FDR took us off the gold standard, our economy began recovering. The same thing happened with every country that went off the gold standard. As soon as they quit it, their economies began climbing out of the hole.

dear, any economy goes up and down a little but the Depression did not end till FDR finally and thankfully dropped dead in 1945.

also it is 100% stupid beyond words to say getting off a gold standard will boost an economy

Good God, what kind of a piece of shit says something like that? There is something very wrong with you.

You, "dear" are a scumbag of the highest order.

Now go **** yourself.

argumentum ad hominem from typical liberal without IQ for substance

 

[haissem123]

there is no reasoning with this type of liars and deniers. The want the money and to hell with us taxpayers they are stealing it from.

Now you're trying to tell us you pay taxes?

that is a good one isn't it? most of my taxes are double because I'm such a sinner. it's the sin tax

 

[haissem123]

Sure, times were rough during some periods of drought. We've also had flooding, freezes, hurricanes, and tornados. Yes, mother nature isn't always good to farmers, I agree. But, that still doesn't explain the astronomical amount of subsidies handed out year after year regardless of weather. Even in bumper crop years, farmers still receive subsidies. Weather doesn't justify the enormous sums handed to rich farmers, year after year, after year.

'Rough'? Seriously..... Rough?

There have been estimates (greatly exaggerated, IMO) of as many as 7 Million Americans dying of starvation during the Great Depression.

Even if that figure is 10 times higher than reality, it is FAR too many Americans to have starve to death.

My Parents lived through the Great Depression and it was more than a little 'Rough'.

And before you try to regurgitate the lunacy you learned at MLK High School, you need to understand something...... Agriculture and Crop Failures were a BIG reason for the Great Depression.

http://www.oostburg.k12.wi.us/ohs/projects/Guy/powerpoints/Day1/Day 1 US History Power Point.pdf

dimocraps are just stupid. ALL of you. Dumb as a box of ******* rocks

This was in America in the 30's.

Know what caused it? Any clue how to prevent it?

Of course not. You're dimocraps which automatically proves you're stupid

put up some pictures of ww2 and say the same thing. of course not your republickins are the most dumberest warmongerers.

 

[Shrimpbox]

Let me put out this trial balloon. What is the matter with not providing subsidies to any business making a profit in any industry. Also no payments above 250,000 to anyone or any business. Also no payments to businesses who have not made a profit after five years. And for good measure no subsidies at all for foreign owned farms.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Let me put out this trial balloon. What is the matter with not providing subsidies to any business making a profit in any industry. Also no payments above 250,000 to anyone or any business. Also no payments to businesses who have not made a profit after five years. And for good measure no subsidies at all for foreign owned farms.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!! Very Good !!!!!!

 

[eagle1462010]

As a Conservative, I do not believe people should be paid to sit on their asses irregardless of their status.............................The OP is a retard.............and has again posted a retarded thread.............As another poster has stated it was a FDR program via the conditions of the dust bowl and Depression...............

Yet it should have ended when there was no longer a need for it..............but once the Gov't has given out FREE chit, it LIKE A DRUG ADDICT, refuses to let it go......................

Businesses should stand or fall on their own accord..............Irregardless of their business.............It would be better for all, at the least, that these farms continue to grow food instead of being paid to be idle and use the food to feed the poor or starving people here and abroad................RATHER than they sit on their back sides getting a check.

 

[Sonny Clark]

As a Conservative, I do not believe people should be paid to sit on their asses irregardless of their status.............................The OP is a retard.............and has again posted a retarded thread.............As another poster has stated it was a FDR program via the conditions of the dust bowl and Depression...............

Yet it should have ended when there was no longer a need for it..............but once the Gov't has given out FREE chit, it LIKE A DRUG ADDICT, refuses to let it go......................

Businesses should stand or fall on their own accord..............Irregardless of their business.............It would be better for all, at the least, that these farms continue to grow food instead of being paid to be idle and use the food to feed the poor or starving people here and abroad................RATHER than they sit on their back sides getting a check.

No more farm subsidies, period. I agree with you.

 

[bripat9643]

News flash. It doesn't require subsidies in order to have farmers. Farmers have been around for many thousands of years. Where there's a demand, someone will fill that demand. Someone will always farm in order to provide food. It's been that way from the beginning of man. How long have subsidies been around? What did we do for food from farmers before subsidies?

fam·ine
ˈfamən/
noun

1. extreme scarcity of food.
   "drought could result in famine throughout the region"
   synonyms: food shortages, scarcity of food; More

moron

Wrong. We didn't have famines in this country before the Roosevelt II administration.

 

[bripat9643]

Every Country on Earth subsidizes its Farmers. At least, the intelligent ones do.

Here's a news flash for you STUPID ******* dimocrap scumbags.....

We can live and do very well without our iPhones, iPads, and Colleges. Might actually be better off without them. debatable

We can live without cars, without washers and dryers and blue jeans and expensive shampoo and coffee and underwire bras and virtually everything else that you've come to expect from a modern civilization (brought to you by Conservatives; you are NOT welcome)

But one thing we can NOT do without is Farmers.

That is why every Country on Earth subsidizes Farms and Farmers

You dims are seriously too stupid to live. Honest to God, you really are

News flash. It doesn't require subsidies in order to have farmers. Farmers have been around for many thousands of years. Where there's a demand, someone will fill that demand. Someone will always farm in order to provide food. It's been that way from the beginning of man. How long have subsidies been around? What did we do for food from farmers before subsidies?

Instead of getting rid of farm subsidies why not allocate to the ones who need it to stay afloat, and the big Gov. and Gov. backed farms, get less or none?
And no they won't keep farming if there is a need. They will sell and retire in the subdivision they just created. Food is going to get expensive and scarce, and Monsanto will come up with a genetically engineered food substitute for your culinary needs.

If they need subsidies to stay afloat, then they should go out of business.

 

[bripat9643]

Sure, times were rough during some periods of drought. We've also had flooding, freezes, hurricanes, and tornados. Yes, mother nature isn't always good to farmers, I agree. But, that still doesn't explain the astronomical amount of subsidies handed out year after year regardless of weather. Even in bumper crop years, farmers still receive subsidies. Weather doesn't justify the enormous sums handed to rich farmers, year after year, after year.

'Rough'? Seriously..... Rough?

There have been estimates (greatly exaggerated, IMO) of as many as 7 Million Americans dying of starvation during the Great Depression.

Even if that figure is 10 times higher than reality, it is FAR too many Americans to have starve to death.

My Parents lived through the Great Depression and it was more than a little 'Rough'.

And before you try to regurgitate the lunacy you learned at MLK High School, you need to understand something...... Agriculture and Crop Failures were a BIG reason for the Great Depression.

http://www.oostburg.k12.wi.us/ohs/projects/Guy/powerpoints/Day1/Day 1 US History Power Point.pdf

dimocraps are just stupid. ALL of you. Dumb as a box of ******* rocks

This was in America in the 30's.

Know what caused it? Any clue how to prevent it?

Of course not. You're dimocraps which automatically proves you're stupid

Yes, times were hard. Food was rationed. And, the dust bowl days were extremely harsh and devastating. The great depression was a nightmare for everyone. No money, no jobs, and very little food. But, the topic is farm subsidies. We've come a long way from the Great Depression and dust bowl days.

Times change, economics change, and circumstances and situations change. It's difficult to justify giving subsidies to very wealthy farmers, even in years of bumper crops and high prices.

There was plenty of food. Times were hard during the Depression, but no one ever starved.

 

[bripat9643]

Keep in mind that everything FDR did prolonged the Depression

False.

As soon as FDR took us off the gold standard, our economy began recovering. The same thing happened with every country that went off the gold standard. As soon as they quit it, their economies began climbing out of the hole.

That's also bullshit. FDR took us off the gold standard in 1933. The Depression didn't end until 1942.

 

[rdean]

republicans get millions in farm subsidies
Google

joni ernst family farm subsidies
Google

To Republicans on the USMB, school lunches for disadvantaged children, help with student loans, helping the poor, health care for the poor and so on is considered "wasteful spending". But millions in farm subsidies for wealthy Republicans is a "good thing". Because they are providers.

Working two minimum wage jobs with no benefits isn't considered "providing". Getting a million in free government money for no other reason than because they can is considered worthy by the GOP.

Are the GOP base "dupes" for wanting to help people who don't need it? And refusing to help people whose only crime is being poor?

Once again your flat on your face,Farm subsidies where and are a dem and idea mostly supported by them.

What language was that?

 

[rdean]

Not sure if this has been commented on but 67 percent of all farmers and ranchers do not collect government subsidy payments in United States, according to USDA. Recipients in the top 10% averaged $36,290 in annual payments between 1995 and 2006. The bottom 80 percent of the recipients saw only $731 on average per year.

EWG Farm Subsidy Database

Did you check out that link? Thanks. California has over 81 thousand farms and only 9% receives money? In fact, look at the other states. Especially the Red States. Look at Iowa. A whopping 81% receives free government money. 83% in North Dakota. Obama's home state 2%.

Which states get the free money tells the story.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Every Country on Earth subsidizes its Farmers. At least, the intelligent ones do.

Here's a news flash for you STUPID ******* dimocrap scumbags.....

We can live and do very well without our iPhones, iPads, and Colleges. Might actually be better off without them. debatable

We can live without cars, without washers and dryers and blue jeans and expensive shampoo and coffee and underwire bras and virtually everything else that you've come to expect from a modern civilization (brought to you by Conservatives; you are NOT welcome)

But one thing we can NOT do without is Farmers.

That is why every Country on Earth subsidizes Farms and Farmers

You dims are seriously too stupid to live. Honest to God, you really are

News flash. It doesn't require subsidies in order to have farmers. Farmers have been around for many thousands of years. Where there's a demand, someone will fill that demand. Someone will always farm in order to provide food. It's been that way from the beginning of man. How long have subsidies been around? What did we do for food from farmers before subsidies?

Instead of getting rid of farm subsidies why not allocate to the ones who need it to stay afloat, and the big Gov. and Gov. backed farms, get less or none?
And no they won't keep farming if there is a need. They will sell and retire in the subdivision they just created. Food is going to get expensive and scarce, and Monsanto will come up with a genetically engineered food substitute for your culinary needs.

If they need subsidies to stay afloat, then they should go out of business.

In any other business maybe, but farming has to rely on things that they have no control over. For instance, farmers are at the mercy of weather. They can lose all of there crops due to drought, or too much rain one year and have a good crop the next. It's not that they are bad farmers. It's that they have to plant and hope for the best. Will there be enough bees to pollinate the trees this year, will an early frost kill their produce, will there be a new blight this year..........

 

[Sonny Clark]

Every Country on Earth subsidizes its Farmers. At least, the intelligent ones do.

Here's a news flash for you STUPID ******* dimocrap scumbags.....

We can live and do very well without our iPhones, iPads, and Colleges. Might actually be better off without them. debatable

We can live without cars, without washers and dryers and blue jeans and expensive shampoo and coffee and underwire bras and virtually everything else that you've come to expect from a modern civilization (brought to you by Conservatives; you are NOT welcome)

But one thing we can NOT do without is Farmers.

That is why every Country on Earth subsidizes Farms and Farmers

You dims are seriously too stupid to live. Honest to God, you really are

News flash. It doesn't require subsidies in order to have farmers. Farmers have been around for many thousands of years. Where there's a demand, someone will fill that demand. Someone will always farm in order to provide food. It's been that way from the beginning of man. How long have subsidies been around? What did we do for food from farmers before subsidies?

Instead of getting rid of farm subsidies why not allocate to the ones who need it to stay afloat, and the big Gov. and Gov. backed farms, get less or none?
And no they won't keep farming if there is a need. They will sell and retire in the subdivision they just created. Food is going to get expensive and scarce, and Monsanto will come up with a genetically engineered food substitute for your culinary needs.

If they need subsidies to stay afloat, then they should go out of business.

In any other business maybe, but farming has to rely on things that they have no control over. For instance, farmers are at the mercy of weather. They can lose all of there crops due to drought, or too much rain one year and have a good crop the next. It's not that they are bad farmers. It's that they have to plant and hope for the best. Will there be enough bees to pollinate the trees this year, will an early frost kill their produce, will there be a new blight this year..........

All people in business take risks, it comes with the territory. Nothing is guaranteed, nothing. By the way, weather affects many businesses.

 

[whitehall]

Another cheap shot by the sissie anti-woman left?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Every Country on Earth subsidizes its Farmers. At least, the intelligent ones do.

Here's a news flash for you STUPID ******* dimocrap scumbags.....

We can live and do very well without our iPhones, iPads, and Colleges. Might actually be better off without them. debatable

We can live without cars, without washers and dryers and blue jeans and expensive shampoo and coffee and underwire bras and virtually everything else that you've come to expect from a modern civilization (brought to you by Conservatives; you are NOT welcome)

But one thing we can NOT do without is Farmers.

That is why every Country on Earth subsidizes Farms and Farmers

You dims are seriously too stupid to live. Honest to God, you really are

News flash. It doesn't require subsidies in order to have farmers. Farmers have been around for many thousands of years. Where there's a demand, someone will fill that demand. Someone will always farm in order to provide food. It's been that way from the beginning of man. How long have subsidies been around? What did we do for food from farmers before subsidies?

Instead of getting rid of farm subsidies why not allocate to the ones who need it to stay afloat, and the big Gov. and Gov. backed farms, get less or none?
And no they won't keep farming if there is a need. They will sell and retire in the subdivision they just created. Food is going to get expensive and scarce, and Monsanto will come up with a genetically engineered food substitute for your culinary needs.

If they need subsidies to stay afloat, then they should go out of business.

In any other business maybe, but farming has to rely on things that they have no control over. For instance, farmers are at the mercy of weather. They can lose all of there crops due to drought, or too much rain one year and have a good crop the next. It's not that they are bad farmers. It's that they have to plant and hope for the best. Will there be enough bees to pollinate the trees this year, will an early frost kill their produce, will there be a new blight this year..........

All people in business take risks, it comes with the territory. Nothing is guaranteed, nothing. By the way, weather affects many businesses.

Not like farmers. A good rain may effect a golf course for a day or two. It can wipe out a year's worth of crops.
A farmer takes a risk with every single spring plant. There isn't a risk or two, it's a plethora of risks every spring that can effect the productivity of the farm through no fault of the farmer. Can you tell me how well the soy crop will do this year? Why not?