Do Democrats really not see their party has moved way too far to the left?

[alang1216]

Please stop with the AI slop copy paste, you ******* hack.

Nope. Sorry you don't like modern search tools.

 

[martybegan]

So why do so many believe it? Obviously you don't.

President Donald Trump’s national disapproval rating hovers between 58% and 60%, with his approval rating stuck in the high 30s. Are you smarter or better informed than most Americans?

The chocolate ration has been increased from 30 grams to 25 grams.

Yawn.

Now tell me why women can have penises.

 

[martybegan]

Nope. Sorry you don't like modern search tools.

I don't respect people who can't think for themselves.

 

[alang1216]

I don't respect people who can't think for themselves.

Agreed, and I don't respect people who can't support what they write.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Wouldn't life be simpler if your fantasies were facts?

A pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants generally remains a popular policy, with the majority of Americans consistently supporting routes to legal status and eventual naturalization. However, polling fluctuates based on the specific group of immigrants and the political phrasing used. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Key Details on Public Opinion:

• General Support: National polls often show that well over half of Americans favor allowing undocumented immigrants a path to stay and earn citizenship, rather than pursuing mass deportations. [1, 2]
• High-Approval Groups: Support is notably higher (often approaching 80%) for specific demographics, such as individuals brought to the U.S. as children (often referred to as Dreamers or DACA recipients), essential workers, and those who have lived in the U.S. for extended periods. [1, 2, 3]
• Bipartisan Divide: While strong support bridges across demographics, views have become increasingly polarized politically. The majority of Democrats strongly favor these policies, whereas Republicans are more divided, with many opposing automatic citizenship but often supporting legal resident status or work permits. [1, 2]
• Economic Arguments: Proponents frequently cite economic data, such as studies from the Center for American Progress, which indicate that a pathway to citizenship would boost the U.S. GDP and increase tax revenue. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Enemy propaganda. No Americans do NOT prefer to be victimized by invaders.

 

[martybegan]

Agreed, and I don't respect people who can't support what they write.

Running to AI isn't supporting anything.

The old truism of GIGO still applies.

 

[Rawley]

Self-identified ideology among Democrats: In 1994, 25% of Democrats called themselves liberal (48% moderate). By 2022-2025, this rose to 54-59% liberal, with moderates declining sharply (Gallup and Pew data).


• Voter ideology scores: American National Election Studies (ANES) show Democratic voters’ average self-placement shifted markedly left from 2012-2020 (mean from ~3.3-3.7 toward more liberal scores), widening the partisan gap, with both white and nonwhite Democrats moving left.


• Congressional voting records (DW-Nominate): House Democrats have become more liberal on average since the 1970s (e.g., median shifting from around -0.31 to -0.38 or further), though Republican rightward movement has been steeper in some analyses. Overall polarization has increased with reduced overlap.


• Platform and policy evolution: The 1990s Clinton-era platform emphasized centrism, welfare reform (“end welfare as we know it”), tough-on-crime policies, and market-friendly economics. Later platforms and priorities shifted toward expansive social spending, student debt relief, wealth redistribution emphasis, more progressive taxation, identity-focused equity policies, and cultural liberalism (e.g., stronger stances on abortion, immigration, policing).


• Broader trends: Pew and other analyses note Democrats moving left on social issues and safety net expansion since the 1990s, with rising influence of progressive factions (e.g., Squad, Sanders wing) and declining moderate influence within the party. Public perception and some electoral analyses link this to losses among working-class and moderate voters.

• Transgender participation in women’s sports: Many Democratic leaders and platforms have supported or defended policies allowing biological males to compete in women’s categories, despite declining public support (e.g., Gallup shows Democratic backing for transgender athletes in gender-identity teams dropping from 55% in 2021 to 45% in 2025, with overall U.S. opposition at ~69%). Critics argue this prioritizes ideology over biological fairness and women’s opportunities.


• Patriotism and national symbols: Declining national pride among Democrats (Gallup: only 36% “extremely/very proud” to be American in 2025, down sharply in recent years) and high-profile incidents like NFL anthem protests (often defended by Democratic figures/politicians), reduced emphasis on flag respect in some progressive circles, and platform shifts (e.g., 2024 platform opening with land acknowledgments vs. earlier patriotic framing). Analyses note a patriotism gap hurting the party with moderates.


• “Defund the Police” movement: Prominent support from progressive Democrats and figures (e.g., some Squad members, initial endorsements or praise from officials like Kamala Harris in 2020) during 2020 protests, leading to budget cuts or reallocations in several Democratic-led cities. Though later walked back by many, it contributed to perceptions of reduced support for law enforcement amid rising crime concerns in some areas.


• Emphasis on identity politics and DEI: Greater focus on race/gender equity frameworks (e.g., critical race theory elements in education, expansive DEI mandates in institutions/government), gender ideology in schools/curricula, and group-specific appeals over class/economic populism. Post-election analyses link this to alienation of working-class and male voters.


• Immigration and border policies: Shift toward more permissive stances (e.g., opposition to stricter enforcement, sanctuary policies, resistance to border wall expansions), with progressive wings pushing decriminalization or reduced ICE funding—contrasting earlier bipartisan efforts and contributing to voter backlash on security.

Today's slate of Mandami backed commies for Congress in NYC will be a huge test of their party. Loon Dan Goldman was not far enough left.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-mayor-mamdani-endorsements-test-democrats-appetite-far-left-candidates-2026-06-23/

 

[alang1216]

Enemy propaganda. No Americans do NOT prefer to be victimized by invaders.

What is that based on?

 

[alang1216]

Running to AI isn't supporting anything.

The old truism of GIGO still applies.

Complaining about AI isn't supporting anything either. Instead of 'shooting the messenger' why don't you try and show where I erred? Of course I get it, complaining is so much easier.

 

[martybegan]

Complaining about AI isn't supporting anything either. Instead of 'shooting the messenger' why don't you try and show where I erred? Of course I get it, complaining is so much easier.

No, it's pointing out laziness coming from mouth-breathing hiveminders like you

 

[Votto]

Self-identified ideology among Democrats: In 1994, 25% of Democrats called themselves liberal (48% moderate). By 2022-2025, this rose to 54-59% liberal, with moderates declining sharply (Gallup and Pew data).


• Voter ideology scores: American National Election Studies (ANES) show Democratic voters’ average self-placement shifted markedly left from 2012-2020 (mean from ~3.3-3.7 toward more liberal scores), widening the partisan gap, with both white and nonwhite Democrats moving left.


• Congressional voting records (DW-Nominate): House Democrats have become more liberal on average since the 1970s (e.g., median shifting from around -0.31 to -0.38 or further), though Republican rightward movement has been steeper in some analyses. Overall polarization has increased with reduced overlap.


• Platform and policy evolution: The 1990s Clinton-era platform emphasized centrism, welfare reform (“end welfare as we know it”), tough-on-crime policies, and market-friendly economics. Later platforms and priorities shifted toward expansive social spending, student debt relief, wealth redistribution emphasis, more progressive taxation, identity-focused equity policies, and cultural liberalism (e.g., stronger stances on abortion, immigration, policing).


• Broader trends: Pew and other analyses note Democrats moving left on social issues and safety net expansion since the 1990s, with rising influence of progressive factions (e.g., Squad, Sanders wing) and declining moderate influence within the party. Public perception and some electoral analyses link this to losses among working-class and moderate voters.

• Transgender participation in women’s sports: Many Democratic leaders and platforms have supported or defended policies allowing biological males to compete in women’s categories, despite declining public support (e.g., Gallup shows Democratic backing for transgender athletes in gender-identity teams dropping from 55% in 2021 to 45% in 2025, with overall U.S. opposition at ~69%). Critics argue this prioritizes ideology over biological fairness and women’s opportunities.


• Patriotism and national symbols: Declining national pride among Democrats (Gallup: only 36% “extremely/very proud” to be American in 2025, down sharply in recent years) and high-profile incidents like NFL anthem protests (often defended by Democratic figures/politicians), reduced emphasis on flag respect in some progressive circles, and platform shifts (e.g., 2024 platform opening with land acknowledgments vs. earlier patriotic framing). Analyses note a patriotism gap hurting the party with moderates.


• “Defund the Police” movement: Prominent support from progressive Democrats and figures (e.g., some Squad members, initial endorsements or praise from officials like Kamala Harris in 2020) during 2020 protests, leading to budget cuts or reallocations in several Democratic-led cities. Though later walked back by many, it contributed to perceptions of reduced support for law enforcement amid rising crime concerns in some areas.


• Emphasis on identity politics and DEI: Greater focus on race/gender equity frameworks (e.g., critical race theory elements in education, expansive DEI mandates in institutions/government), gender ideology in schools/curricula, and group-specific appeals over class/economic populism. Post-election analyses link this to alienation of working-class and male voters.


• Immigration and border policies: Shift toward more permissive stances (e.g., opposition to stricter enforcement, sanctuary policies, resistance to border wall expansions), with progressive wings pushing decriminalization or reduced ICE funding—contrasting earlier bipartisan efforts and contributing to voter backlash on security.

No, Orange man bad. Must strop Orange man cuz Hitler.

Stop with fake news.

 

[alang1216]

No, it's pointing out laziness coming from mouth-breathing hiveminders like you

Sounds to me it is you who are too lazy to back up what they claim. Just what a mindless drone would do I guess. Very sad.

 

[martybegan]

Sounds to me it is you who are too lazy to back up what they claim. Just what a mindless drone would do I guess. Very sad.

I don't waste time on mincing morons such as yourself.

I just make you look pathetic.