How very different our national politics would be if we had just listened to Murrow.

[berg80]

Murrow's Famous "Wires and Lights in a Box"​

You should also know at the outset that, in the manner of witnesses before Congressional committees, I appear here voluntarily-by invitation-that I am an employee of the Columbia Broadcasting System, that I am neither an officer nor any longer a director of that corporation and that these remarks are strictly of a "do-it-yourself" nature. If what I have to say is responsible, then I alone am responsible for the saying of it. Seeking neither approbation from my employers, nor new sponsors, nor acclaim from the critics of radio and television, I cannot very well be disappointed. Believing that potentially the commercial system of broadcasting as practiced in this country is the best and freest yet devised, I have decided to express my concern about what I believe to be happening to radio and television. These instruments have been good to me beyond my due. There exists in mind no reasonable grounds for any kind of personal complaint. I have no feud, either with my employers, any sponsors, or with the professional critics of radio and television. But I am seized with an abiding fear regarding what these two instruments are doing to our society, our culture and our heritage.

Our history will be what we make it. And if there are any historians about fifty or a hundred years from now, and there should be preserved the kinescopes for one week of all three networks, they will there find recorded in black and white, or perhaps in color, evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live. I invite your attention to the television schedules of all networks between the hours of 8 and 11 p.m., Eastern Time. Here you will find only fleeting and spasmodic reference to the fact that this nation is in mortal danger. There are, it is true, occasional informative programs presented in that intellectual ghetto on Sunday afternoons. But during the daily peak viewing periods, television in the main insulates us from the realities of the world in which we live. If this state of affairs continues, we may alter an advertising slogan to read: LOOK NOW, AND PAY LATER.

Murrow's Famous "Wires and Lights in a Box" - Radio Television Digital News Association

www.rtdna.org

His seemingly innocuous description, "wires and lights in a box," belies the awesome power of the medium. Power that could be used as a means to challenge beliefs and inform the public has instead been misused in order to misinform it. All for commercial gain. "For surely we shall pay for using this most powerful instrument of communication to insulate the citizenry from the hard and demanding realities which must indeed be faced if we are to survive. And I mean the word survive, quite literally."

How different the political landscape would be if one of trump's essential frauds perpetrated on his following, that of Obama's citizenship, was uniformly called out for the lie it was and is. He wouldn't have had the name recognition he enjoyed if not for the inane reality TV show he hosted. If the millions of collective hours watching that drivel were used as a public service to educate people on complex policy issues, presenting positions from all sides, we'd be far better off.

Not only because trump would have remained as he was, an opinionated crank looking for a wider audience of marks for his cons. But also because we wouldn't waste so much time on fruitless debates about facts already in evidence instead of discussing a path forward to address the problems at hand.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Hey, Fauci lied.

How different would our politics be if you lefties would have admitted Fauci was a liar?

 

[pknopp]

Hey, Fauci lied.

How different would our politics be if you lefties would have admitted Fauci was a liar?

 

[Mac-7]

Murrow's Famous "Wires and Lights in a Box"​

You should also know at the outset that, in the manner of witnesses before Congressional committees, I appear here voluntarily-by invitation-that I am an employee of the Columbia Broadcasting System, that I am neither an officer nor any longer a director of that corporation and that these remarks are strictly of a "do-it-yourself" nature. If what I have to say is responsible, then I alone am responsible for the saying of it. Seeking neither approbation from my employers, nor new sponsors, nor acclaim from the critics of radio and television, I cannot very well be disappointed. Believing that potentially the commercial system of broadcasting as practiced in this country is the best and freest yet devised, I have decided to express my concern about what I believe to be happening to radio and television. These instruments have been good to me beyond my due. There exists in mind no reasonable grounds for any kind of personal complaint. I have no feud, either with my employers, any sponsors, or with the professional critics of radio and television. But I am seized with an abiding fear regarding what these two instruments are doing to our society, our culture and our heritage.

Our history will be what we make it. And if there are any historians about fifty or a hundred years from now, and there should be preserved the kinescopes for one week of all three networks, they will there find recorded in black and white, or perhaps in color, evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live. I invite your attention to the television schedules of all networks between the hours of 8 and 11 p.m., Eastern Time. Here you will find only fleeting and spasmodic reference to the fact that this nation is in mortal danger. There are, it is true, occasional informative programs presented in that intellectual ghetto on Sunday afternoons. But during the daily peak viewing periods, television in the main insulates us from the realities of the world in which we live. If this state of affairs continues, we may alter an advertising slogan to read: LOOK NOW, AND PAY LATER.

Murrow's Famous "Wires and Lights in a Box" - Radio Television Digital News Association

www.rtdna.org

His seemingly innocuous description, "wires and lights in a box," belies the awesome power of the medium. Power that could be used as a means to challenge beliefs and inform the public has instead been misused in order to misinform it. All for commercial gain. "For surely we shall pay for using this most powerful instrument of communication to insulate the citizenry from the hard and demanding realities which must indeed be faced if we are to survive. And I mean the word survive, quite literally."

How different the political landscape would be if one of trump's essential frauds perpetrated on his following, that of Obama's citizenship, was uniformly called out for the lie it was and is. He wouldn't have had the name recognition he enjoyed if not for the inane reality TV show he hosted. If the millions of collective hours watching that drivel were used as a public service to educate people on complex policy issues, presenting positions from all sides, we'd be far better off.

Not only because trump would have remained as he was, an opinionated crank looking for a wider audience of marks for his cons. But also because we wouldn't waste so much time on fruitless debates about facts already in evidence instead of discussing a path forward to address the problems at hand.

I have never definitively accused obama of being born in kenya

Because I/we have no way of knowing the truth

All I can say is VERY few people have seen the original birth certificate locked away in a vault in Hawaii

And its never been examined by unbiased forgery experts to determine its authenticity

Anyone on this forum who claims to know where obama was born in a liar

 

[berg80]

I have never definitively accused obama of being born in kenya

Because I/we have no way of knowing the truth

All I can say is VERY few people have seen the original birth certificate locked away in a vault in Hawaii

And its never been examined by unbiased forgery experts to determine its authenticity

Anyone on this forum who claims to know where obama was born in a liar

Right on cue..........And if there are any historians about fifty or a hundred years from now, and there should be preserved the kinescopes for one week of all three networks, they will there find recorded in black and white, or perhaps in color, evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live.

 

[berg80]

I have never definitively accused obama of being born in kenya

Sowing unwarranted doubt about his birthplace achieves the same purpose. It was trump's initial foray in to the "he's not one of us" narrative he's used over and over with respect to minorities, gays, immigrants, etc.

 

[Mac-7]

Right on cue..........And if there are any historians about fifty or a hundred years from now, and there should be preserved the kinescopes for one week of all three networks, they will there find recorded in black and white, or perhaps in color, evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live.

So you believe obama was born in Hawaii based on faith alone

Which makes you a typical lib

 

[berg80]

So you believe obama was born in Hawaii based on faith alone

Which makes you a typical lib

I find it regrettable to say your refusal to accept the facts, more than anything else, is what makes you a member of The Following.

Reversing course, Trump admits Obama was born in the US​

Reversing course, Trump admits Obama was born in the US

After five years as the chief promoter of a lie about Barack Obama's birthplace, Donald Trump abruptly reversed course and acknowledged the fact that the president was born in America.

apnews.com

 

[Mac-7]

I find it regrettable to say your refusal to accept the facts, more than anything else, is what makes you a member of The Following.

You have no facts

Only blind faith in lib’s black messiah

 

[berg80]

You have no facts

Only blind faith in lib’s black messiah

WASHINGTON (AP) — After five years as the chief promoter of a lie about Barack Obama’s birthplace, Donald Trump abruptly reversed course Friday and acknowledged the fact that the president was born in America. He then immediately peddled another false conspiracy.

“President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period,” Trump declared, enunciating each word in a brief statement at the end of a campaign appearance. “Now we all want to get back to making America strong and great again.”

But as the GOP presidential nominee sought to put that false conspiracy theory to rest, he stoked another, claiming the “birther movement” was begun by his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. There is no evidence that is true.

Even though the real world presents some harsh realities for you, you should try to join the rest of us here.

 

[Mac-7]

WASHINGTON (AP) — After five years as the chief promoter of a lie about Barack Obama’s birthplace, Donald Trump abruptly reversed course Friday and acknowledged the fact that the president was born in America. He then immediately peddled another false conspiracy.

“President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period,” Trump declared, enunciating each word in a brief statement at the end of a campaign appearance. “Now we all want to get back to making America strong and great again.”

But as the GOP presidential nominee sought to put that false conspiracy theory to rest, he stoked another, claiming the “birther movement” was begun by his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. There is no evidence that is true.

Even though the real world presents some harsh realities for you, you should try to join the rest of us here.

Ultimately trump is a politician with a wet finger in the air

Which I am not bound by

The fact is that we just dont know

 

[Blaster]

Morrow was a chain smoking phony.

 

[Woodznutz]

Murrow's Famous "Wires and Lights in a Box"​

You should also know at the outset that, in the manner of witnesses before Congressional committees, I appear here voluntarily-by invitation-that I am an employee of the Columbia Broadcasting System, that I am neither an officer nor any longer a director of that corporation and that these remarks are strictly of a "do-it-yourself" nature. If what I have to say is responsible, then I alone am responsible for the saying of it. Seeking neither approbation from my employers, nor new sponsors, nor acclaim from the critics of radio and television, I cannot very well be disappointed. Believing that potentially the commercial system of broadcasting as practiced in this country is the best and freest yet devised, I have decided to express my concern about what I believe to be happening to radio and television. These instruments have been good to me beyond my due. There exists in mind no reasonable grounds for any kind of personal complaint. I have no feud, either with my employers, any sponsors, or with the professional critics of radio and television. But I am seized with an abiding fear regarding what these two instruments are doing to our society, our culture and our heritage.

Our history will be what we make it. And if there are any historians about fifty or a hundred years from now, and there should be preserved the kinescopes for one week of all three networks, they will there find recorded in black and white, or perhaps in color, evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live. I invite your attention to the television schedules of all networks between the hours of 8 and 11 p.m., Eastern Time. Here you will find only fleeting and spasmodic reference to the fact that this nation is in mortal danger. There are, it is true, occasional informative programs presented in that intellectual ghetto on Sunday afternoons. But during the daily peak viewing periods, television in the main insulates us from the realities of the world in which we live. If this state of affairs continues, we may alter an advertising slogan to read: LOOK NOW, AND PAY LATER.

Murrow's Famous "Wires and Lights in a Box" - Radio Television Digital News Association

www.rtdna.org

His seemingly innocuous description, "wires and lights in a box," belies the awesome power of the medium. Power that could be used as a means to challenge beliefs and inform the public has instead been misused in order to misinform it. All for commercial gain. "For surely we shall pay for using this most powerful instrument of communication to insulate the citizenry from the hard and demanding realities which must indeed be faced if we are to survive. And I mean the word survive, quite literally."

How different the political landscape would be if one of trump's essential frauds perpetrated on his following, that of Obama's citizenship, was uniformly called out for the lie it was and is. He wouldn't have had the name recognition he enjoyed if not for the inane reality TV show he hosted. If the millions of collective hours watching that drivel were used as a public service to educate people on complex policy issues, presenting positions from all sides, we'd be far better off.

Not only because trump would have remained as he was, an opinionated crank looking for a wider audience of marks for his cons. But also because we wouldn't waste so much time on fruitless debates about facts already in evidence instead of discussing a path forward to address the problems at hand.

I agree, to the extent that the media should be encouraging people to attend church more.

 

[berg80]

Ultimately trump is a politician with a wet finger in the air

Which I am not bound by

The fact is that we just dont know

I find it regrettable to say your refusal to accept the facts, more than anything else, is what makes you a member of The Following.

 

[berg80]

I agree, to the extent that the media should be encouraging people to attend church more.

I don't see how worship of the cloud fairy solves anything.

 

[Woodznutz]

I don't see how worship of the cloud fairy solves anything.

The biggest problem America faces is the breakdown of morality. Needed morality is taught in churches.

 

[berg80]

The biggest problem America faces is the breakdown of morality. Needed morality is taught in churches.

Taught, but not practiced. Just like what I call the Sunday christians who do not live their lives according to the religious principles they claim to believe in.

 

[Hellokitty]

Sowing unwarranted doubt about his birthplace achieves the same purpose. It was trump's initial foray in to the "he's not one of us" narrative he's used over and over with respect to minorities, gays, immigrants, etc.

Hillary is the one who started the Obama fake birth certificate stuff.

 

[berg80]

Hillary is the one who started the Obama fake birth certificate stuff.

That was the lie trump told to escape responsibility for starting the lie after he admitted it was a lie.

 

[j-mac]

Right on cue..........And if there are any historians about fifty or a hundred years from now, and there should be preserved the kinescopes for one week of all three networks, they will there find recorded in black and white, or perhaps in color, evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live.

So, what you’re focusing on is that only outlets in which you approve of in media are reality? Man, that’s a departure from reality itself.