Do Democrats really not see their party has moved way too far to the left?

[OldFlame]

Unless they endanger the public.

How does massive debt to provide all of your utopia services not endanger the 'public'? The 'public' is made up of private citizens, not the strawman that you create to defend all of your leftist bullshit.

 

[OldFlame]

Thanks for illustrating the gap between the GOP and the American public.

You sure love that word, 'public', don't you? Private citizens are the words you're looking for, and the majority of them are against illegal immigration.

 

[alang1216]

How does massive debt to provide all of your utopia services not endanger the 'public'? The 'public' is made up of private citizens, not the strawman that you create to defend all of your leftist bullshit.

I suspect people who feel the government is efficient and responsive to them are happy to pay for what we get. The Nordic Social Democracies have the happiest people on earth.

 

[alang1216]

You sure love that word, 'public', don't you? Private citizens are the words you're looking for, and the majority of them are against illegal immigration.

Feel free to substitute 'American people' for 'public' if you prefer. I suspect the majority of the 'American people' don't want open borders or criminals, I know I don't, but they also don't like the way ICE is handling itself and feel the whole immigration system is broken.

 

[OldFlame]

I suspect people who feel the government is efficient and responsive to them are happy to pay for what we get. The Nordic Social Democracies have the happiest people on earth.

'what WE get', very telling. And you equating government with being efficient and responsive shows what a complete idiot you are.

 

[OldFlame]

Feel free to substitute 'American people' for 'public' if you prefer. I suspect the majority of the 'American people' don't want open borders or criminals, I know I don't, but they also don't like the way ICE is handling itself and feel the whole immigration system is broken.

ICE is doing it's job, removing illegals that had been allowed to pour over the border for 4 years under a dumocrat admin.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The MAGA Party is down to 30%. Has any President polled lower?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Feel free to substitute 'American people' for 'public' if you prefer. I suspect the majority of the 'American people' don't want open borders or criminals, I know I don't, but they also don't like the way ICE is handling itself and feel the whole immigration system is broken.

ICE is operating 100% exactly how they did under Obama, and none of you demented zombies said a word about it then.
But now with Emmanuel Orangestein as president, you zombies FREAK OUT over them.
You demented zombies have absolutely NO credibility.
NONE.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Really? These all sound like solutions to me:

• letting Medicare negotiate prescription drug prices.
• protect and fund Social Security and Medicare
• Universal background checks for all gun purchases
• closing loopholes on private gun sales
• raising the federal minimum wage
• wage increases tied to the cost of living
• Increasing federal spending on public school student services,
• free school lunches for low-income students,
• expanding funding for vocational and trade schools
• a pathway to citizenship or legal status for long-term immigrants who have been in the country for years

Some of them do. Pathway to citizen citizenship does not.

 

[alang1216]

ICE is operating 100% exactly how they did under Obama, and none of you demented zombies said a word about it then.
But now with Emmanuel Orangestein as president, you zombies FREAK OUT over them.
You demented zombies have absolutely NO credibility.
NONE.

Untrue and many of the current tactics are not supported by the majority of Americans.

While the Obama administration set high overall deportation numbers, ICE's operational priorities, enforcement tactics, and target scopes differ significantly today. The American Immigration Council and Migration Policy Institute maintain that tactics are fundamentally distinct across key areas: [1, 2, 3, 4]

• Enforcement Priorities: The Obama administration focused primarily on individuals convicted of serious felonies and national security threats. Current enforcement prioritizes the apprehension of any unauthorized individual, regardless of their criminal history. [1, 2]
• Workplace Enforcement: Obama ended large-scale worksite raids in favor of "silent raids" like Form I-9 audits to penalize employers. Today’s administration has restarted large-scale workplace operations and sweeps. [1, 2]
• Target Locations: Executive orders have eliminated previous "safe locations" like schools, hospitals, and churches. Under Obama, ICE agents generally avoided these sensitive sites. [1]
• Border Focus vs. Community Raids: Obama-era deportations largely consisted of individuals apprehended directly at the border or transferred from local jails. Current tactics feature more aggressive, non-targeted street operations designed to apprehend larger numbers of people in local communities. [1]

 

[alang1216]

Some of them do. Pathway to citizen citizenship does not.

It may not be a solution you favor but it is a popular option for Americans.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Untrue and many of the current tactics are not supported by the majority of Americans.

While the Obama administration set high overall deportation numbers, ICE's operational priorities, enforcement tactics, and target scopes differ significantly today. The American Immigration Council and Migration Policy Institute maintain that tactics are fundamentally distinct across key areas: [1, 2, 3, 4]

• Enforcement Priorities: The Obama administration focused primarily on individuals convicted of serious felonies and national security threats. Current enforcement prioritizes the apprehension of any unauthorized individual, regardless of their criminal history. [1, 2]
• Workplace Enforcement: Obama ended large-scale worksite raids in favor of "silent raids" like Form I-9 audits to penalize employers. Today’s administration has restarted large-scale workplace operations and sweeps. [1, 2]
• Target Locations: Executive orders have eliminated previous "safe locations" like schools, hospitals, and churches. Under Obama, ICE agents generally avoided these sensitive sites. [1]
• Border Focus vs. Community Raids: Obama-era deportations largely consisted of individuals apprehended directly at the border or transferred from local jails. Current tactics feature more aggressive, non-targeted street operations designed to apprehend larger numbers of people in local communities. [1]

Yes, because ICE didn't get the RESISTANCE and INTERFERENCE back then. They got COOPERATION.
You can twist yourself into a pretzel all you want, but NOTHING you say about ICE has an ounce of credibility.
All you offer is hypocrisy.
GTFOH with that NONSENSE.

 

[alang1216]

Yes, because ICE didn't get the RESISTANCE and INTERFERENCE back then. They got COOPERATION.
You can twist yourself into a pretzel all you want, but NOTHING you say about ICE has an ounce of credibility.
All you offer is hypocrisy.
GTFOH with that NONSENSE.

Did you ever ask yourself why they got COOPERATION then but get RESISTANCE and INTERFERENCE now? I thought not.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Did you ever ask yourself why they got COOPERATION then but get RESISTANCE and INTERFERENCE now? I thought not.

There's only one answer to that......
ORANGE MAN BAD

TRUUUUUUUUUUMP

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It may not be a solution you favor but it is a popular option for Americans.

For democrats. Anything that replaces Americans with foreigners is popular with democrats.

 

[alang1216]

There's only one answer to that......
ORANGE MAN BAD

TRUUUUUUUUUUMP

So WHY do people think ORANGE MAN BAD?

 

[martybegan]

So WHY do people think ORANGE MAN BAD?

Because the hive mind tells them to do so.

 

[alang1216]

For democrats. Anything that replaces Americans with foreigners is popular with democrats.

Wouldn't life be simpler if your fantasies were facts?

A pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants generally remains a popular policy, with the majority of Americans consistently supporting routes to legal status and eventual naturalization. However, polling fluctuates based on the specific group of immigrants and the political phrasing used. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Key Details on Public Opinion:

• General Support: National polls often show that well over half of Americans favor allowing undocumented immigrants a path to stay and earn citizenship, rather than pursuing mass deportations. [1, 2]
• High-Approval Groups: Support is notably higher (often approaching 80%) for specific demographics, such as individuals brought to the U.S. as children (often referred to as Dreamers or DACA recipients), essential workers, and those who have lived in the U.S. for extended periods. [1, 2, 3]
• Bipartisan Divide: While strong support bridges across demographics, views have become increasingly polarized politically. The majority of Democrats strongly favor these policies, whereas Republicans are more divided, with many opposing automatic citizenship but often supporting legal resident status or work permits. [1, 2]
• Economic Arguments: Proponents frequently cite economic data, such as studies from the Center for American Progress, which indicate that a pathway to citizenship would boost the U.S. GDP and increase tax revenue. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

[martybegan]

Wouldn't life be simpler if your fantasies were facts?

A pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants generally remains a popular policy, with the majority of Americans consistently supporting routes to legal status and eventual naturalization. However, polling fluctuates based on the specific group of immigrants and the political phrasing used. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Key Details on Public Opinion:

• General Support: National polls often show that well over half of Americans favor allowing undocumented immigrants a path to stay and earn citizenship, rather than pursuing mass deportations. [1, 2]
• High-Approval Groups: Support is notably higher (often approaching 80%) for specific demographics, such as individuals brought to the U.S. as children (often referred to as Dreamers or DACA recipients), essential workers, and those who have lived in the U.S. for extended periods. [1, 2, 3]
• Bipartisan Divide: While strong support bridges across demographics, views have become increasingly polarized politically. The majority of Democrats strongly favor these policies, whereas Republicans are more divided, with many opposing automatic citizenship but often supporting legal resident status or work permits. [1, 2]
• Economic Arguments: Proponents frequently cite economic data, such as studies from the Center for American Progress, which indicate that a pathway to citizenship would boost the U.S. GDP and increase tax revenue. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Please stop with the AI slop copy paste, you ******* hack.

 

[alang1216]

Because the hive mind tells them to do so.

So why do so many believe it? Obviously you don't.

President Donald Trump’s national disapproval rating hovers between 58% and 60%, with his approval rating stuck in the high 30s. Are you smarter or better informed than most Americans?