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They don't have a will to die. They don't know about either one. But they are alive and have no reason to want to die.
So? Any different from any other animal?
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They don't have a will to die. They don't know about either one. But they are alive and have no reason to want to die.
I can speak baby. I learned how to communicate with my children before they could talk. So much so I actually taught them how to speak English.
Yes, let's compare the value of the life of an innocent unborn child to the lives of pigs, chickens, convicted felons, and terrorists.The left like to use words to obfuscate.
Says the "pro-lifers" who eat meat, support executions and war. That's not "pro-life" that's "anti-human abortion". Sorry to prove your obfuscation.
The fetal stage is the developmental stage of a mammal, to include humans. A human fetus is still human, it would be odd for a fetus within a human woman to be born as a different species wouldn't you agree? "Fetus" isn't a classification of species.A fetus is a fetus. Are you saying a fetus isn't a fetus?
Yes, let's compare the value of the life of an innocent unborn child to the lives of pigs, chickens, convicted felons, and terrorists.
The fetal stage is the developmental stage of a mammal, to include humans. A human fetus is still human, it would be odd for a fetus within a human woman to be born as a different species wouldn't you agree? "Fetus" isn't a classification of species.
Serious question. And it boils down to a mom killing her baby, for what ever reason.
A fetus is literally defined as an unborn baby in the fetal stage of development. There's no point in you even engaging in this discussion if you're going to continue with such blatant ignorance.A fetus is not a baby. There is no killing involved. You are a dishonest lying right wing fascist.
It isn't just my hypothesis. It is the hypothesis of the very country that you live in. We have a constitution and civil rights intended primarily for U.S. citizens. Humans, mind you. With your argument, you'd better not even step on an insect or swat a fly.Er.... so we can only have a conversation if we work on YOUR hypothesis that other animals are lower down than humans?
Right....
It isn't just my hypothesis. It is the hypothesis of the very country that you live in. We have a constitution and civil rights intended primarily for U.S. citizens. Humans, mind you. With your argument, you'd better not even step on an insect or swat a fly.
If you want to go protest outside of the building of a pest control company because you feel that the lives of insects are equal to ours then go right ahead. Just know you'll be the only one out there.Great, so your argument is that because a lot of people are "human supremacists" (if you like) then I have to accept that "pro-life" is ONLY for the lives of humans?
Fuck that shit.
If you want to go protest outside of the building of a pest control company because you feel that the lives of insects are equal to ours then go right ahead. Just know you'll be the only one out there.
Which is typical of what happens when you go and attack the straw man.Well this conversation descended into nothingness.
Which is typical of what happens when you go and attack the straw man.
Good grief, you are making this too easy that I don't even know what to easily dismantle first. It's almost a complete waste of my time.No, it's what happens when you start talking about things in a way people don't like.
You want your argument in your nice little box which proves you right all the time. Anything else must be pummeled so that it can't be spoken about.
From your point of view, a religious point of view I'm guessing, God made all animals and God made humans "special". It means you can go around fucking things up and feel good about yourself because God, apparently, allows this to happen.
The reality is there probably is no "God" in that sense. No "God" made in the form of man, (I use man as male because there's a hell of a lot of sexism and misogyny going on in Christian churches, like the Catholic Church where only males can make it to the top) and man can go around killing animals at will for no reason at all.
Kill a fetus and "God" said it's really bad. You don't even need to think this. You know it, it's there right in your book. But fuck animals. You're superior.
Also helps when you want to treat blacks and Native Americans like shit too. Remember that one? A country with Slavery for 1/3rd it's life time, Segregation for another third. A country that had slaves counted as 3/5ths a person, right there in the Constitution.
Yeah, when you can use your religion to do whatever the fuck you like. Because you're a "supremacist".
Good grief, you are making this too easy that I don't even know what to easily dismantle first. It's almost a complete waste of my time.
I assume you are speaking of God as portrayed in the Holy Bible. If so, God doesn't allow us to just do what ever. There are more than several examples of people who just "did what ever" and faced severe consequences from their actions. Even people that God used and helped still faced consequences because nobody is safe from the consequences of sin.
What a strange rant that was about slavery, how old do you think I am? I didn't participate in any of those things. As a matter of fact, I would have been enslaved in those times.
If you're going to use the Book of Genesis to drive your point home, I recommend actually knowing what is being said before just rambling randomly.
It was a valiant effort. Next time, stay on topic.Nah, this is too childish for me. Bye
No. I doubt a baby has "the will to live"
You doubt a baby has the will to live ????? serious? just because it cant talk? hmm thats funny because there are reports from doctors that when abortion procedures are done, they have video of the "fetuses" showing agony.. and trying to avoid the sharp instruments that are hurting them. But.. you know... im sure you think its just a clump of cells, or maybe thats just you living up to your screen name.