Discipline

[Unkotare]

Except teacher's are not trained to help kids with emotional problems. ...

Yes, we are. If you had bothered to read the thread you would have seen that when emotional problems are too extensive, we have guidance counselors, social workers, community representatives, and most importantly family to pick up the ball. READ.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Yes, we are. If you had bothered to read the thread you would have seen that when emotional problems are too extensive, we have guidance counselors, social workers, community representatives, and most importantly family to pick up the ball. READ.

No, you do not have proper training or education to help emotionally disturbed kids. Completely false. The data has shown for years therapy produces the best outcomes for emotional disturbance. Therapy is not classroom management or an encouraging pat on the back.

If you somehow think you can undo years of trauma or abuse of disturbed kids in a classroom setting with no training or education, you are doing a massive disservice to the children under your care.

People with an education degree are educators. That is what they are trained to do. They are not therapist or mental health providers. Stay in your lane.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Yes, we are. If you had bothered to read the thread you would have seen that when emotional problems are too extensive, we have guidance counselors, social workers, community representatives, and most importantly family to pick up the ball. READ.

Ahh the old "emotional problems" copout. There was a time.you got in trouble at school, that was nothing compared to the trouble that awaited for you at home.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Have you asked her if she believes all students deserve an education?

Do all students deserve to be on the school team? Same difference.

Unfit students should be done with their education as soon as they perform below their grade level.

What if the teams had to play all students and give them equal playing time?

 

[Unkotare]

No, you do not have proper training or education to help emotionally disturbed kids. Completely false. .....

YOU do not understand what teaching truly entails. That's why all the "it's easy!" dopes are so full of shit.

 

[Unkotare]

Ahh the old "emotional problems" copout. ...

You think nobody ever has emotional problems? No wonder why you're NOT a teacher. Are you at least a parent?

 

[WelfareQueen]

YOU do not understand what teaching truly entails. That's why all the "it's easy!" dopes are so full of shit.

You do not understand appropriate mental health treatment for children. You have no clue whatsoever. None.

 

[Unkotare]

Do all students deserve to be on the school team? ...

I never cut anyone from the team. Only the best wrestle varsity.

 

[Unkotare]

You do not understand appropriate mental health treatment for children. ....

I certainly do.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I'm sure you struggle with the scourge of Biff and Thad not tying their pink sweaters around their necks properly.

Now you pretend to be against Preppies. But the point we're not allowed to consider is that they dumbed-down your public schools because their own elitist schools couldn't make spoiled mediocrities smart, no matter how much money was wasted on the privileged brats.

 

[Unkotare]

Now you pretend to be against Preppies. ...

Read carefully, idiot. NO ONE SAYS "PREPPY" ANYMORE. No one has said that since the 80s.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Teaching is not aircraft repair. Teaching is a simple process. My wife was as Special Ed teacher and the Army taught me how to teach. The method is "tell them what you are going to tell them, tell them what you told them, test them, repeat as needed." In other words, introduce the material, present the material, review the material and test the material. Your failing is that you feel the need to waste time on "students" who don't want to learn or are incapable of learning at an acceptable level.

The Inferior and Pretentious English of College Graduates

Teachers should anticipate misunderstanding, or inability to get the whole lesson all at once, by telling students what not to do. For example, the lesson about "my friend and I" instead of "my friend and me" if it is the subject of the sentence. Give the examples of common mistakes, such as "They invited my friend and I."

People who make excuses for this pathetic fraud claim that "they are trying too hard." They're not trying at all, or else they wouldn't blurt out something they imagine "sounds educated."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It is; people like you complicate it. My wife worked alongside many "teachers" like you.

The Army taught me to teach in an eight-hour block of instruction, and it worked. Our classes had a ninety five percent success rate of turning out students fully competent in the things we taught them. The difference between your classroom and mine is that you don't demand discipline in your students and I did. If I had a disruptive student, he got informal discipline; usually pushups, if that didn't work, he was expelled from class and sent to a worse place.

Educationists Know Nothing About Normal Motivation

The key difference, if truth could be told instead of sold, is that your students were paid while learning, and even more if they immediately got a promotion for being the best, such as the Marines' Honor Man in bootcamp becoming a PFC.

There are other ways of rewarding in grade school and high school. "Learning for its own sake" doesn't produce, and it often leads to idle curiosity and mind-candy.

 

[GMCGeneral]

You think nobody ever has emotional problems? No wonder why you're NOT a teacher. Are you at least a parent?

Yes I AM a parent, dumbass.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It is; people like you complicate it. My wife worked alongside many "teachers" like you.

The Army taught me to teach in an eight-hour block of instruction, and it worked. Our classes had a ninety five percent success rate of turning out students fully competent in the things we taught them. The difference between your classroom and mine is that you don't demand discipline in your students and I did. If I had a disruptive student, he got informal discipline; usually pushups, if that didn't work, he was expelled from class and sent to a worse place.

Your students had to be there, or they would be punished severely. Apples and oranges comparisons and you know it!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No, you do not have proper training or education to help emotionally disturbed kids. Completely false. The data has shown for years therapy produces the best outcomes for emotional disturbance. Therapy is not classroom management or an encouraging pat on the back.

If you somehow think you can undo years of trauma or abuse of disturbed kids in a classroom setting with no training or education, you are doing a massive disservice to the children under your care.

People with an education degree are educators. That is what they are trained to do. They are not therapist or mental health providers. Stay in your lane.

You have never head or a school psychologist?

 

[Unkotare]

Educationists Know Nothing About Normal Motivation

The key difference, if truth could be told instead of sold, is that your students were paid while learning, and even more if they immediately got a promotion for being the best, such as the Marines' Honor Man in bootcamp becoming a PFC.

There are other ways of rewarding in grade school and high school. "Learning for its own sake" doesn't produce, and it often leads to idle curiosity and mind-candy.

So you didn't go to high school OR college?

 

[Unkotare]

Yes I AM a parent, dumbass.

Hmmmmm.....

 

[80zephyr]

I certainly do.

I suppose you realize your argument sounds a lot like the people who are not teachers are making against you. You have been telling people that if they aren't teachers, they don't know what they are talking about, yet you claim to know as much about child psychology than a guy with a masters degree.

 

[Unkotare]

... you claim to know as much about child psychology than a guy ....

I didn't say that. I was responding to an accusation that I don't know anything about it. I have in my time worked with many students with identified mental disabilities.