Did MAGA Rig the election?

[AzogtheDefiler]

2020 was an absolute outlier election. Record turn out on both sides.

Except it wasn’t for the GOP because Trump did it again in 2024. He will actually surpass it. I am glad we solved for the If. We cannot solve for the why without more data. We can certainly guess at it

 

[Slade3200]

That makes no sense. TikTok is like YouTube it’s playing clips of people talking. So yes it may be a news source as well as a silly tool to watch dancing cats. Just admit you were wrong

Wrong about what? Laughing at people who point to tik tok users as a gauge of how the American people are feeling? Sorry man but social media is not reality. It is a very skewed version of it. I'd rather go to a local baseball game or concert or community fund raiser. Get a much better feel for what the people are feeling by actually interacting with them

 

[Slade3200]

I never said cheating. You did. I said it was an anomaly. Glad we agree.

of course it was an anomolly, I never debated that. We were in a worldwide pandemic. The abnormalities were obvious. And many on this thread are claiming that the vote count proves cheating which it certainly does not. Would you agree with that?

 

[Slade3200]

Except it wasn’t for the GOP because Trump did it again in 2024. He will actually surpass it. I am glad we solved for the If. We cannot solve for the why without more data. We can certainly guess at it

Trumps votes in 2020 were an absolute historical anomaly. He was able to keep that steam and voter engagement for 4 years as an opposition candidate running on lies of a stolen election. Biden got old and dropped out of the race. Do we aren't comparing apples to apples. You understand that right?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Hey, if that's where you go to find your real news then thats on you. I personally can't take that social media attention seeking crap seriously. Its a show

I don’t get news from social media, I don’t even use social media (X, Facebook, instagram,
Tik Tok etc..). I’m just looking at the reactions which display anger and fear. And I listen to progressive radio which reflects what I see in these tik tok videos

 

[Slade3200]

Excellent. It took me what like 10 posts for you to answer honestly? See you’re a troll. An asshole and a dishonest debater.

I answered it honestly and acknowledged it an outlier 1 post after you asked. Don't be a liar

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Wrong about what? Laughing at people who point to tik tok users as a gauge of how the American people are feeling? Sorry man but social media is not reality. It is a very skewed version of it. I'd rather go to a local baseball game or concert or community fund raiser. Get a much better feel for what the people are feeling by actually interacting with them

TikTok can have condensed speeches from Trump and or Harris. It’s like YouTube. So why can’t it be a source for news? You’re still not answering me.

 

[Slade3200]

I don't have to

Because you can't. And your side is content running on accusations and lies. Not on facts and truth.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I answered it honestly and acknowledged it an outlier 1 post after you asked. Don't be a liar

Bullshit

You started telling me the why when I never asked you to do that to sway the conversation

 

[XponentialChaos]

You’re trolling now

An outlier is a single data point that goes far outside the average value of a group of statistics. Outliers may be exceptions that stand outside individual samples of populations as well. In a more general context, an outlier is an individual that is markedly different from the norm in some respect.

A 9mil difference and before this yr it was an 11mil difference is markedly different from the norm

No I’m not. Outlier has a specific formula associated with it.

If you’re going to say that it’s “far outside the average value” and that it’s “markedly different” then you have to define and quantify exactly what those terms mean, otherwise it’s entirely subjective, which I thought we were trying to avoid, which is why I was running the calculations in the first place. Numbers are definitive and objective.

I can say that Trump’s vote total in 2024 is “far outside the average value” and “markedly different” because you haven’t quantified those terms. It’s entirely subjective.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

of course it was an anomolly, I never debated that. We were in a worldwide pandemic. The abnormalities were obvious. And many on this thread are claiming that the vote count proves cheating which it certainly does not. Would you agree with that?

It neither proves cheating nor that the pandemic created a desire to vote. I need more data to conclude why. I have my suspicions but they were thrown in the garbage after seeing what happened in 2024 so I am back to square one.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No I’m not. Outlier has a specific formula associated with it.

If you’re going to say that it’s “far outside the average value” and that it’s “markedly different” then you have to define and quantify exactly what those terms mean, otherwise it’s entirely subjective, which I thought we were trying to avoid.

I can say that Trump’s vote total in 2024 is “far outside the average value” and “markedly different” because you haven’t quantified those terms. It’s entirely subjective.

Trump isn’t. Biden 2020 is. 11mil difference or 81 had a Z value of 1.7. To me that’s markedly different. Z value when compared to the prior Democrat vote totals - Internet era.

 

[Slade3200]

From AI

Outliers may be exceptions that stand outside individual samples of populations as well. In a more general context, an outlier is an individual that is markedly different from the norm in some respect.

Checkmate. The 81mil is at least 9mil more than the next closest Dem candidate ever.

It is an outlier

yes, of course its an outlier... Trumps 11 million jump was an outlier as well for the past 4 years. Correct? What point are you trying to make?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

yes, of course its an outlier... Trumps 11 million jump was an outlier as well for the past 4 years. Correct? What point are you trying to make?

It was until this year. So now I need to figure out why.

I am intellectually curious. You? Not so much

 

[XponentialChaos]

Trump isn’t. Biden 2020 is. 11mil difference or 81 had a Z value of 1.7. To me that’s markedly different. Z value when compared to the prior Democrat vote totals - Internet era.

“To me that’s markedly different”

Is that not subjective then? If it’s “markedly different” to you, then we’re talking subjective. I thought we were trying to be objective here?

 

[Slade3200]

Except it was. LOL

Except what was?

 

[Slade3200]

Except it wasn’t for the GOP because Trump did it again in 2024. He will actually surpass it. I am glad we solved for the If. We cannot solve for the why without more data. We can certainly guess at it

Ohh it absolutely was an outlier for the GOP at the time and for the past 4 years. Because Trump did it again shows that he kept his steam.... Joe lost his steam and dropped out. But If you don't think there are 81 million votes out there for the right candidate running against an unpopular sitting president, then you're not seeing reality. Like I said give it 4 years.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

“To me that’s markedly different”

Is that not subjective then? If it’s “markedly different” to you, then we’re talking subjective. I thought we were trying to be objective here?

Yep. It is. To most logical people it would be an aberration and the outlier official definition allows for aberrations. Youre just being obtuse.


So it is in the official definition so we need to agree to disagree.

 

[Slade3200]

I don’t get news from social media, I don’t even use social media (X, Facebook, instagram,
Tik Tok etc..). I’m just looking at the reactions which display anger and fear. And I listen to progressive radio which reflects what I see in these tik tok videos

You're looking at mediums that sensationalize content for clicks and money. Try going out into your community and interacting with real people. My guess is you will get a much more accurate impression

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Ohh it absolutely was an outlier for the GOP at the time and for the past 4 years. Because Trump did it again shows that he kept his steam.... Joe lost his steam and dropped out. But If you don't think there are 81 million votes out there for the right candidate running against an unpopular sitting president, then you're not seeing reality. Like I said give it 4 years.

Again you’re solving for the why. Now that we have the 2024 results we see how much of an aberration 2020 was for the Democrats but not for the GOP. And I agree. Four more years will provide additional data and clues. For now we would just be guessing at it