Did God Create Satan?

[Leo123]

OK, there's lots of stories about this in religious dogma. Lots of folks believe that there is an entity called 'Satan' or 'The Devil' who is responsible for corrupting human beings. In fact, anyone who has questioned this dogma has been subject to ridicule at least by the MSM. My simple question: Why would God create Satan?

My answer: If God, according to that same dogma, is the Creator of everything then God must also be the Creator of Satan.

BTW I consider myself a Christian.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

OK, there's lots of stories about this in religious dogma. Lots of folks believe that there is an entity called 'Satan' or 'The Devil' who is responsible for corrupting human beings. In fact, anyone who has questioned this dogma has been subject to ridicule at least by the MSM. My simple question: Why would God create Satan?

My answer: If God, according to that same dogma, is the Creator of everything then God must also be the Creator of Satan.

BTW I consider myself a Christian.

Satan?

I am unsure but Lucifer the Fallen Angel?

Yes.

I believe Evil, Death and God were all created at the same time by Choas…

 

[2aguy]

OK, there's lots of stories about this in religious dogma. Lots of folks believe that there is an entity called 'Satan' or 'The Devil' who is responsible for corrupting human beings. In fact, anyone who has questioned this dogma has been subject to ridicule at least by the MSM. My simple question: Why would God create Satan?

My answer: If God, according to that same dogma, is the Creator of everything then God must also be the Creator of Satan.

BTW I consider myself a Christian.

Yes...he did...he obviously gave his angels free will as well as men......

 

[Winco]

BTW I consider myself a Christian.

Another FAKE claim.
What basis classifies YOURSELF as a Christian.

Anxious to hear your claim.
1). I read the Bible daily/weekly/ I've heard of the Bible.
2). I go to church Daily/weekly/once/
3). I can quote the Bible, like a trumpster. Sorry. Nobody Knows the Bible....
4). I send my children to Sunday school.

 

[Leo123]

Yes...he did...he obviously gave his angels free will as well as men......

Good point! The dirty little secret is that humans are capable of great humanity and also capable of great inhumanity. That is free will. We are responsible for the good and evil in this world. Objective morality is the answer, IMO.

 

[Leo123]

Another FAKE claim.
What basis classifies YOURSELF as a Christian.

Anxious to hear your claim.
1). I read the Bible daily/weekly/ I've heard of the Bible.
2). I go to church Daily/weekly/once/
3). I can quote the Bible, like a trumpster. Sorry. Nobody Knows the Bible....
4). I send my children to Sunday school.

Christianity created America. The greatest country on the face of the Earth accept Rome. You're actually lucky if you can send your children to a school that teaches them traditional America values.

 

[JGalt]

OK, there's lots of stories about this in religious dogma. Lots of folks believe that there is an entity called 'Satan' or 'The Devil' who is responsible for corrupting human beings. In fact, anyone who has questioned this dogma has been subject to ridicule at least by the MSM. My simple question: Why would God create Satan?

My answer: If God, according to that same dogma, is the Creator of everything then God must also be the Creator of Satan.

BTW I consider myself a Christian.

Of course God created Satan. He is just an angel like the others. But unlike the others, God allowed Satan to have pride, which then led to his leading one-third of the other angels in a revolt against heaven. God did that in order to show us what a magnificent, powerful, yet loving and forgiving creator He is. And God loves us far more than He does His own angels. He gave us His own Son to die on the cross, so that we may be forgiven. Angels on the other hand, can never be forgiven. So in the end, Satan and those angels who followed him, will be cast into the lake of fire.

 

[JGalt]

Another FAKE claim.
What basis classifies YOURSELF as a Christian.

Anxious to hear your claim.
1). I read the Bible daily/weekly/ I've heard of the Bible.
2). I go to church Daily/weekly/once/
3). I can quote the Bible, like a trumpster. Sorry. Nobody Knows the Bible....
4). I send my children to Sunday school.

Not really sure what you're trying to say here. You read the Bible daily/weekly/ You've heard of the Bible?

You go to church Daily/weekly/once?

 

[2aguy]

Good point! The dirty little secret is that humans are capable of great humanity and also capable of great inhumanity. That is free will. We are responsible for the good and evil in this world. Objective morality is the answer, IMO.

I gave some thoughts on satan in the religion section

 

[Leo123]

I gave some thoughts on satan in the religion section

OK, can you post some thoughts here or maybe give us a link so you don't have to repeat.

 

[lg325]

Yes God created Satan and the fallen angels to be what they are.

 

[JGalt]

Yes God created Satan and the fallen angels to be what they are.

Absolutely correct. From the beginning of creation, that was God's plan.

 

[theHawk]

OK, there's lots of stories about this in religious dogma. Lots of folks believe that there is an entity called 'Satan' or 'The Devil' who is responsible for corrupting human beings. In fact, anyone who has questioned this dogma has been subject to ridicule at least by the MSM. My simple question: Why would God create Satan?

My answer: If God, according to that same dogma, is the Creator of everything then God must also be the Creator of Satan.

BTW I consider myself a Christian.

Yes.

Free will includes being able to choose evil. Not having free will would be slavery and not real love.

 

[johngaltshrugged]

OK, there's lots of stories about this in religious dogma. Lots of folks believe that there is an entity called 'Satan' or 'The Devil' who is responsible for corrupting human beings. In fact, anyone who has questioned this dogma has been subject to ridicule at least by the MSM. My simple question: Why would God create Satan?

My answer: If God, according to that same dogma, is the Creator of everything then God must also be the Creator of Satan.

BTW I consider myself a Christian.

God is an endless omnipotent being & beyond the confines of our perceptions of reality.
As the Creator of the space-time continuum where we dwell, He is beyond both time & space.
He made the angels & Lucifer was His main officer, an angel of light.
Lucifer, in his own vanity & hubris, challenged God & sought to rise above his position.
About 1/3 of the Host of Heaven joined him in rebellion & were subsequently cast out of Heaven.
Lucifer is Satan & has been transformed by evil completely, though he can still appear as an angel of light when it suits his purposes.

Yes, God did create Lucifer/Satan & gave him the same free will He has granted us.

 

[lg325]

Here's an article on predestination or Calvinism. I was raised Baptist and predestination and Freewill is a constant debate among congregation members. It ties into the subject of the thread. Calvin: Predestination

 

[JGalt]

Yes...he did...he obviously gave his angels free will as well as men......

But even with free will, both men and the angels are doing nothing more than proclaiming the glory of God. Even the lowly detractors who claim "there is no God" are doing God's will, whether they know it or not.

They are unknowingly fulfilling the prophesies in Revelations where it states that Christians will be reviled, hated, and persecuted. Even the most abject atheist, hater of God, or hater of Christianity is by God's own will proving that what was written in Revelations is coming true. I'm not really sure if they're aware of it but it does prove that as stated in Philippians 2:10-11 "that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

You see how God uses all to proclaim His glory? Even the most sycophantic sinners of this world have a role in His magnificent plan.

 

[Moonglow]

Satan?

I am unsure but Lucifer the Fallen Angel?

Yes.

I believe Evil, Death and God were all created at the same time by Choas…

Is chaos a god and who created chaos?

 

[Road Runner]

Yes He did but why isn't this topic in religion?

 

[Viktor]

Christianity created America. The greatest country on the face of the Earth accept Rome. You're actually lucky if you can send your children to a school that teaches them traditional America values.

No. Many of the Founders were Deists.