Devolution? WTF?

[Samson]

It's called rioting, as you well know. People under too much stress sometimes do this......

Do you think anyone chooses to live in the ghetto?

Well, perhaps YOU should invest in an area in which the "distressed" ocassionally burn down YOUR business as a coping mechanism.

I'm certain they'll appreciate your effort.

 

[Madeline]

Samson, I'm not defending rioting. It isn't really even pertinent to this thread...to qualify, it would have to be a new stressor, and it clearly is not.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Reading the news, I'm seeing articles on the resurgence in the U.S. of things that we had either eliminated or vaccinated against years ago:

Bedbugs

Typhoid

Whooping Cough

Measles

Tuberculosis

What the hell is going on?

Illegal aliens bring the diseases with them.

 

[Samson]

Samson, I'm not defending rioting. It isn't really even pertinent to this thread...to qualify, it would have to be a new stressor, and it clearly is not.

But you mentioned it as a contributing factor to increases in disease.

Clearly I agree: It is. However, the root cause isn't "Environmental Racism."

The root cause is the ineffective coping mechanisms of the urban poor: instead of picking up a book, they pick up a bottle, or a brick......or a disease.

 

[boedicca]

In the case of bedbugs, we can thank our gubmint for exacerbating the problem via inane regulations.

Bedbugs, a common household pest for centuries, all but vanished in the 1940s and ’50s with the widespread use of DDT. But DDT was banned in 1972 as too toxic to wildlife, especially birds. Since then, the bugs have developed resistance to chemicals that replaced DDT.

Also, exterminators have fewer weapons in their arsenal than they did just a few years ago because of a 1996 Clinton-era law that requires older pesticides to be re-evaluated based on more stringent health standards. The re-evaluations led to the restrictions on propoxur and other pesticides.

Though propoxur is still used in pet collars, it is banned for use in homes because of the risk of nausea, dizziness and blurred vision in children. Steven Bradbury, director of the EPA’s pesticide program, said the problem is that children crawl on the floor and put their fingers in their mouths.

Critics in the pest control industry say that the federal government is overreacting and that professional applicators can work with families to prevent children from being exposed to harmful levels of the chemical, which is more commonly used outside against roaches and crickets.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/us-grapples-with-bedbugs-misuse-of-pesticides/

 

[Madeline]

Samson, I'm not defending rioting. It isn't really even pertinent to this thread...to qualify, it would have to be a new stressor, and it clearly is not.

But you mentioned it as a contributing factor to increases in disease.

Clearly I agree: It is. However, the root cause isn't "Environmental Racism."

The root cause is the ineffective coping mechanisms of the urban poor: instead of picking up a book, they pick up a bottle, or a brick......or a disease.

Increase the stress on any population and you will increase the incidence of morbidity and mortality. T'aint peculiar to poor folks...they just have fewer options as to what coping mechanisms to choose from.

 

[Samson]

Samson, I'm not defending rioting. It isn't really even pertinent to this thread...to qualify, it would have to be a new stressor, and it clearly is not.

But you mentioned it as a contributing factor to increases in disease.

Clearly I agree: It is. However, the root cause isn't "Environmental Racism."

The root cause is the ineffective coping mechanisms of the urban poor: instead of picking up a book, they pick up a bottle, or a brick......or a disease.

Increase the stress on any population and you will increase the incidence of morbidity and mortality. T'aint peculiar to poor folks...they just have fewer options as to what coping mechanisms to choose from.

The same social "science" that invented the term, "environmental racism" will find a centralised government solution to what is really individual irresponsiblity.

The fact they hate to admit:

"You lie down with dogs, and you wake up with fleas."

 

[Madeline]

Some factors in one's environment are deeply influenced by government....ever been to a nursing home?

 

[Samson]

Some factors in one's environment are deeply influenced by government....ever been to a nursing home?

Are Nursing home residents burning down Korean Groceries because they're unhappy with the creamed spinich??

 

[Madeline]

No. But tinker with the regulations and reimbursement levels of such places and you can produce a very predictable mortality rate. Powerless people are much more vulnerable to governmental harm.

 

[eagleseven]

It's pretty much a universal fact...affluence directly correlates with mortality, for a myriad of factors.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Idiot. DDT was killing off all the birds, especially the eagles. Didn't you ever read "Silent Spring"? The chemical companies were even using the old tobacco industry ploy... "It's good for you!".

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I HIGHLY recommend watching the Film..."Food Inc."

 

[Jeremy]

Idiot. DDT was killing off all the birds, especially the eagles. Didn't you ever read "Silent Spring"? The chemical companies were even using the old tobacco industry ploy... "It's good for you!".

Oh please, Carson's statistics on the rise of cancer rates among children are essentially meaningless unless it's given some context, which she failed to supply in that book. It turns out that the percentage of children dying of cancer was rising because other causes of death , such as infectious diseases, were drastically declining. She was a spin master with an ill conceived bleeding heart agenda.
How many millions of human lives were saved by DDT due to it's success in stopping the spread of malaria?

 

[Samson]

Idiot. DDT was killing off all the birds, especially the eagles. Didn't you ever read "Silent Spring"? The chemical companies were even using the old tobacco industry ploy... "It's good for you!".

Oh please, Carson's statistics on the rise of cancer rates among children are essentially meaningless unless it's given some context, which she failed to supply in that book. It turns out that the percentage of children dying of cancer was rising because other causes of death , such as infectious diseases, were drastically declining. She was a spin master with an ill conceived bleeding heart agenda.
How many millions of human lives were saved by DDT due to it's success in stopping the spread of malaria?

Is Malaria a problem in Fargo?

 

[Jeremy]

Idiot. DDT was killing off all the birds, especially the eagles. Didn't you ever read "Silent Spring"? The chemical companies were even using the old tobacco industry ploy... "It's good for you!".

Oh please, Carson's statistics on the rise of cancer rates among children are essentially meaningless unless it's given some context, which she failed to supply in that book. It turns out that the percentage of children dying of cancer was rising because other causes of death , such as infectious diseases, were drastically declining. She was a spin master with an ill conceived bleeding heart agenda.
How many millions of human lives were saved by DDT due to it's success in stopping the spread of malaria?

Is Malaria a problem in Fargo?

Not as bad as condylomata acuminata.

 

[geauxtohell]

Reading the news, I'm seeing articles on the resurgence in the U.S. of things that we had either eliminated or vaccinated against years ago:

Bedbugs

Typhoid

Whooping Cough

Measles

Tuberculosis

What the hell is going on?

They never went away.

Of all these, I was under the impression that only Pertussis/whooping cough was making any sort of impressive "comeback".

Here's a paper on it:

Factors contributing to pertussis resurgence. [Future Microbiol. 2008] - PubMed result

 

[Samson]

Oh please, Carson's statistics on the rise of cancer rates among children are essentially meaningless unless it's given some context, which she failed to supply in that book. It turns out that the percentage of children dying of cancer was rising because other causes of death , such as infectious diseases, were drastically declining. She was a spin master with an ill conceived bleeding heart agenda.
How many millions of human lives were saved by DDT due to it's success in stopping the spread of malaria?

Is Malaria a problem in Fargo?

Not as bad as condylomata acuminata.

Condylomata means "Knuckle" in greek.

Perhaps if you'd stop dragging them behind you, it might resolve the symptoms.

 

[boedicca]

GTH:

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Bed Bugs are HUGE right now.

 

[Samson]

GTH:

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Bed Bugs are HUGE right now.

How do you know.