Desperate Putin Enlisting GOP To Get US To Surrender To Him

[CrusaderFrank]

Again, the call for an audit is theater for rubes like you.

The real aim is to get us to surrender to Putin while Ukraine is kicking him in the nuts.

Wake up, useful idiot.

Sure, whatever you say, let's pick a real auditor now

 

[gipper]

It is so sad that useful idiots like yourself say we "provoked" Putin into invading Ukraine.

Holy shit, that is fucked up.

If that is not evidence you are Putin's useful idiots, nothing is.

Another one who knows nothing about Ukraine and Russia.

Statist dupe.

Stop watching MSLSD everyday and your IQ might go up to 5.

 

[g5000]

Another one who knows nothing about Ukraine and Russia.

Statist dupe.

Stop watching MSLSD everyday and your IQ might go up to 5.

I know everything about Ukraine and Russia, moron.

Ukraine does not belong to Russia. It is a sovereign state.

All your excuses for the war on Ukraine have come straight from Putin's ass to your mouth.

 

[g5000]

Ukraine is the breadbasket to the world. People are dying around the world from starvation because Putin is blockading Ukraine's shipping port.

You really want a totalitarian controlling a significant part of the world's food supply, assholes?

Are your imaginations so limited that you can't see where that would lead? You can't see the geopolitical implications?

This is a mass murdering genocidal war criminal, people. It should not have to be explained to you what would happen if Putin succeeds.

Don't be such traitorous parroting useful idiots.

 

[Frankenstein]

Right here:

Worth every penny.



.

Is it, do you know how many homeless vets we could have helped? I mean instead of trying to cover up Bio weapons labs in the Ukraine!

 

[gipper]

I know everything about Ukraine and Russia, moron.

Ukraine does not belong to Russia. It is a sovereign state.

All your excuses for the war on Ukraine have come straight from Putin's ass to your mouth.

Lol. You don’t know shit.

Who stated Ukraine belongs to Russia, you straw man doofus?

I’ve made no excuses dick lick.

Get informed before posting, MORON!

 

[MisterBeale]

It is so sad that useful idiots like yourself say we "provoked" Putin into invading Ukraine.

Holy shit, that is fucked up.

If that is not evidence you are Putin's useful idiots, nothing is.

It was revealed in the Wikileaks cabals. Everyone that has followed the story, and watched when Tory Nuland orchestrated coup, said the EU could pound sand, everyone knows this. You are either ignorant, or gaslighting the forum and yourself. I'd like to think you are a decent fellow, but we all know, when it comes to stuff like this, you are an out and out liar.

US gov’t knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene​

US gov't knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene - Geopolitical Economy Report

US Ambassador William Burns, now CIA director, admitted in 2008 embassy cable that NATO expansion to Ukraine crosses Russia's security "redlines" and could lead to violence which would force Moscow to intervene.

multipolarista.com

". . . Ukraine and Georgia’s NATO aspirations not only touch a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about the consequences for stability in the region. Not only does Russia perceive encirclement, and efforts to undermine Russia’s influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would seriously affect Russian security interests. Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face.. . .

Burns’ warnings came true just a few years later.. . ."

Cable: 08MOSCOW265_a

The CIA knew what it was doing. . . it wanted war, and it got one.

NATO should have never have been expanded. . . guarantees were given to Gorbachev, the west was NOT to be allowed to, and Putin is right. Nor were they allowed to place missiles in any of the new NATO members, which they have, since talks about the unification of Germany occurred.

Clausewitz: War as Politics by other Means | Online Library of Liberty

Related Links: Clausewitz Subject Area: War and Peace Source: Carl von Clausewitz, On War, trans. Col. J.J. Graham. New and Revised edition with Introduction and Notes by Col. F.N. Maude, in Three Volumes (London: Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner & C., 1918). Vol. 1. Chapter: CHAPTER I: WHAT IS WAR...

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WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA​

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA

johnpilger.com

". . . Setting aside the manoeuvres and cynicism of geopolitics, whomever the players, this historical memory is the driving force behind Russia’s respect-seeking, self-protective security proposals, which were published in Moscow in the week the UN voted 130-2 to outlaw Nazism. They are:

- NATO guarantees that it will not deploy missiles in nations bordering Russia. (They are already in place from Slovenia to Romania, with Poland to follow)
- NATO to stop military and naval exercises in nations and seas bordering Russia.
- Ukraine will not become a member of NATO.
- the West and Russia to sign a binding East-West security pact.
- the landmark treaty between the US and Russia covering intermediate-range nuclear weapons to be restored. (The US abandoned it in 2019)

These amount to a comprehensive draft of a peace plan for all of post-war Europe and ought to be welcomed in the West. But who understands their significance in Britain? What they are told is that Putin is a pariah and a threat to Christendom.. . . "

Newly Declassified Documents: Gorbachev Told NATO Wouldn't Move Past East German Border​

Newly Declassified Documents: Gorbachev Told NATO Wouldn't Move Past East German Border

So what happenned?

nationalinterest.org

". . .Gorbachev only accepted German reunification—over which the Soviet Union had a legal right to veto under treaty—because he received assurances that NATO would not expand after he withdrew his forces from Eastern Europe from James Baker, President George H.W. Bush, West German foreign minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher, West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, the CIA Director Robert Gates, French President Francois Mitterrand, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, British foreign minister Douglas Hurd, British Prime Minister John Major, and NATO secretary-general Manfred Woerner.

Indeed, as late as March 1991, the British were reassuring Gorbachev that they could not foresee circumstances under which NATO might expand into Eastern and Central Europe. As former British Ambassador to the Soviet Union recounted in March 5, 1991, Rodric Braithwaite, both British foreign minister Douglas Hurd and British Prime Minister John Major told the Soviet that NATO would not expand eastwards.

“I believe that your thoughts about the role of NATO in the current situation are the result of misunderstanding,” Major had told Gorbachev. We are not talking about strengthening of NATO. We are talking about the coordination of efforts that is already happening in Europe between NATO and the West European Union, which, as it is envisioned, would allow all members of the European Community to contribute to enhance [our] security.”

US, UK, France Promised USSR Not to Expand NATO East of Germany, Newly Discovered Document Proves

21 Feb 2022 - A newly discovered document provides more evidence that Western governments broke their promise not to expand NATO eastward after German reunification. Notes from a 1991 meeting prove that the US, UK, France, and Germany assured the Soviet Union that NATO would not expand east. ...

www.transcend.org

". . The 2+4 negotiations were talks in 1990 that allowed for the reunification of Germany, featuring capitalist West Germany and socialist East Germany (the 2) along with the United States, Soviet Union, Britain, and France (the 4).

Chrobog’s comments in the notes, therefore, confirm that the Western powers had promised the USSR in 1990 that they would not expand NATO eastward after German reunification.

Further clarifying this fact, the document adds that there was a “general agreement that membership of NATO and security guarantees [are] unacceptable” for countries east of Germany.. . ."

 

[gipper]

It was revealed in the Wikileaks cabals. Everyone that has followed the story, and watched when Tory Nuland orchestrated coup, said the EU could pound sand, everyone knows this. You are either ignorant, or gaslighting the forum and yourself. I'd like to think you are a decent fellow, but we all know, when it comes to stuff like this, you are an out and out liar.

US gov’t knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene​

US gov't knew NATO expansion to Ukraine would force Russia to intervene - Geopolitical Economy Report

US Ambassador William Burns, now CIA director, admitted in 2008 embassy cable that NATO expansion to Ukraine crosses Russia's security "redlines" and could lead to violence which would force Moscow to intervene.

multipolarista.com

". . . Ukraine and Georgia’s NATO aspirations not only touch a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about the consequences for stability in the region. Not only does Russia perceive encirclement, and efforts to undermine Russia’s influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would seriously affect Russian security interests. Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face.. . .

Burns’ warnings came true just a few years later.. . ."

Cable: 08MOSCOW265_a

The CIA knew what it was doing. . . it wanted war, and it got one.

NATO should have never have been expanded. . . guarantees were given to Gorbachev, the west was NOT to be allowed to, and Putin is right. Nor were they allowed to place missiles in any of the new NATO members, which they have, since talks about the unification of Germany occurred.

Clausewitz: War as Politics by other Means | Online Library of Liberty

Related Links: Clausewitz Subject Area: War and Peace Source: Carl von Clausewitz, On War, trans. Col. J.J. Graham. New and Revised edition with Introduction and Notes by Col. F.N. Maude, in Three Volumes (London: Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner & C., 1918). Vol. 1. Chapter: CHAPTER I: WHAT IS WAR...

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WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA​

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA

WAR IN EUROPE AND THE RISE OF RAW PROPAGANDA

johnpilger.com

". . . Setting aside the manoeuvres and cynicism of geopolitics, whomever the players, this historical memory is the driving force behind Russia’s respect-seeking, self-protective security proposals, which were published in Moscow in the week the UN voted 130-2 to outlaw Nazism. They are:

- NATO guarantees that it will not deploy missiles in nations bordering Russia. (They are already in place from Slovenia to Romania, with Poland to follow)
- NATO to stop military and naval exercises in nations and seas bordering Russia.
- Ukraine will not become a member of NATO.
- the West and Russia to sign a binding East-West security pact.
- the landmark treaty between the US and Russia covering intermediate-range nuclear weapons to be restored. (The US abandoned it in 2019)

These amount to a comprehensive draft of a peace plan for all of post-war Europe and ought to be welcomed in the West. But who understands their significance in Britain? What they are told is that Putin is a pariah and a threat to Christendom.. . . "

Newly Declassified Documents: Gorbachev Told NATO Wouldn't Move Past East German Border​

Newly Declassified Documents: Gorbachev Told NATO Wouldn't Move Past East German Border

So what happenned?

nationalinterest.org

". . .Gorbachev only accepted German reunification—over which the Soviet Union had a legal right to veto under treaty—because he received assurances that NATO would not expand after he withdrew his forces from Eastern Europe from James Baker, President George H.W. Bush, West German foreign minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher, West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, the CIA Director Robert Gates, French President Francois Mitterrand, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, British foreign minister Douglas Hurd, British Prime Minister John Major, and NATO secretary-general Manfred Woerner.

Indeed, as late as March 1991, the British were reassuring Gorbachev that they could not foresee circumstances under which NATO might expand into Eastern and Central Europe. As former British Ambassador to the Soviet Union recounted in March 5, 1991, Rodric Braithwaite, both British foreign minister Douglas Hurd and British Prime Minister John Major told the Soviet that NATO would not expand eastwards.

“I believe that your thoughts about the role of NATO in the current situation are the result of misunderstanding,” Major had told Gorbachev. We are not talking about strengthening of NATO. We are talking about the coordination of efforts that is already happening in Europe between NATO and the West European Union, which, as it is envisioned, would allow all members of the European Community to contribute to enhance [our] security.”

US, UK, France Promised USSR Not to Expand NATO East of Germany, Newly Discovered Document Proves

21 Feb 2022 - A newly discovered document provides more evidence that Western governments broke their promise not to expand NATO eastward after German reunification. Notes from a 1991 meeting prove that the US, UK, France, and Germany assured the Soviet Union that NATO would not expand east. ...

www.transcend.org

". . The 2+4 negotiations were talks in 1990 that allowed for the reunification of Germany, featuring capitalist West Germany and socialist East Germany (the 2) along with the United States, Soviet Union, Britain, and France (the 4).

Chrobog’s comments in the notes, therefore, confirm that the Western powers had promised the USSR in 1990 that they would not expand NATO eastward after German reunification.

Further clarifying this fact, the document adds that there was a “general agreement that membership of NATO and security guarantees [are] unacceptable” for countries east of Germany.. . ."

I’m guessing less than 10% of Americans know anything about what you’ve posted. Thanks to a media and government controlled by the CIA.

 

[22lcidw]

Remember that time Republicans demanded an audit of all the money we were sending to Iraq?

Me, neither.

Remember this?:

How the US sent $12bn in cash to Iraq. And watched it vanish​

​

$12 billion in cold cash...poof!

THEN the Republicans demanded an audit.

Oh, wait. No they didn't.


Remember that time Republicans demanded an audit of all the money we were sending to Afghanistan?

Me, neither.


Putin's imperialist invasion of Ukraine is going very, very badly for him. His economy is on the verge of imploding, the Russian people are becoming more and more unhappy with the war. Excuse me, the "special military operation". Don't say war. You'll go to prison.

High ranking officials are mysteriously falling out of windows. Peaceful protesters are being imprisoned. And we all know how the Right feels about imprisoned protesters! Why is MTG not decrying their plight?

Mass graves and other horrific war crimes are being discovered and uncovered in recaptured territory in Ukraine.

More than a million Ukrainians have been forcefully deported from Eastern Ukraine and disappeared to the farthest, coldest reaches of Russia. Now THAT is how you rig an election, Democrats! Take notes!

But it's the Ukrainians who are the Nazis, amiright?

Putin needs to brutally slaughter women and children en masse to save Ukraine. Yeah.

Putin the humanitarian.

Now Putin is enlisting certain members of the Republican Party to rescue him.

"Under Republicans, not another penny will go to Ukraine." - Marjorie Taylor Greene​

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Says No More Money to Ukraine

During remarks at a rally for Trump-endorsed candidates in Sioux City, Iowa, Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) says, "Under Republicans, not another penny will go to Ukraine."

www.c-span.org

"I will not vote for one more dollar to Ukraine." - Matt Gaetz

House Republicans Seek Audit on Ukraine Funding

Representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), and other HOuse Republicans held a press conference to discuss funding to aid Ukraine against continuing Russia's invasion. Representative Greene talked about her plans to introduce a resolution to Congress auditing funding...

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These appeasers want us to quit when we have a mass murdering war criminal against the ropes!

History will judge them very badly.


In my next post, I will show just how badly things are going for Putin.

Progs have come a long way since Hanoi Jane sat in a North Vietnamese tank with the Viet Cong all around her for a photo shoot in an antiwar, I am on the commies side love fest. Those American soldiers are no good baby killers. Remember.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

FTX has nothing to do with this topic. Move along.

You seem so sure of that, was there an audit?

 

[gipper]

It is so sad that useful idiots like yourself say we "provoked" Putin into invading Ukraine.

Holy shit, that is fucked up.

If that is not evidence you are Putin's useful idiots, nothing is.

Isn't it cool how the United States can illegally occupy Syria, steal their oil and scream about Ukraine's sovereignty at the same time? Let alone the numerous coups, invasions, and assassinations of foreign leaders by the USG.

 

[g5000]

Progs have come a long way since Hanoi Jane sat in a North Vietnamese tank with the Viet Cong all around her for a photo shoot in an antiwar, I am on the commies side love fest. Those American soldiers are no good baby killers. Remember.

And this has, what, to do with the topic?

 

[g5000]

You seem so sure of that, was there an audit?

The FAKE FTX Scandal

There are two scandals surrounding FTX right now. One is real, the other is a hoax. This topic is about the fake scandal. If you want to discuss the real scandal, I have created a topic for it here: The REAL FTX Scandal There is a stupid hoax going around that FTX somehow facilitated the...

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I created that topic for credulous tards like you. Move along.

 

[BackAgain]

Republicans are traitors, they like Russia more than the US, because Putin is Trump's best buddy


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MAGA traitor Trash
like all MAGA republicans

Dumbest post ^of his long history of his dumb posts.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The FAKE FTX Scandal

There are two scandals surrounding FTX right now. One is real, the other is a hoax. This topic is about the fake scandal. If you want to discuss the real scandal, I have created a topic for it here: The REAL FTX Scandal There is a stupid hoax going around that FTX somehow facilitated the...

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I created that topic for credulous tards like you. Move along.

Yes, but you have absolutely no basis for assuring us that FTX did everything properly and wasn't used as a conduit to launder money.

You're trying to gaslight us and you don't know dick about anything

 

[g5000]

Yes, but you have absolutely no basis for assuring us that FTX did everything properly and wasn't used as a conduit to launder money.

Do you know what an argument from ignorance is?

You just made one. A textbook example.

You're trying to gaslight us and you don't know dick about anything

You're in the wrong topic.

How many times, retard, do you need to be told?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The FAKE FTX Scandal

There are two scandals surrounding FTX right now. One is real, the other is a hoax. This topic is about the fake scandal. If you want to discuss the real scandal, I have created a topic for it here: The REAL FTX Scandal There is a stupid hoax going around that FTX somehow facilitated the...

www.usmessageboard.com

I created that topic for credulous tards like you. Move along.

You have ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS FOR SAYING THAT FTX WAS NOT USED TO LAUNDER MONEY

SHOW US THE AUDIT

 

[g5000]

You have ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS FOR SAYING THAT FTX WAS NOT USED TO LAUNDER MONEY

SHOW US THE AUDIT

This is the last time I address any of your posts about FTX in this topic.

You are more than welcome to come to the relevant topic so I can bury you.

Your call.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Do you know what an argument from ignorance is?

You just made one. A textbook example.


You're in the wrong topic.

How many times, retard, do you need to be told?

You have absolutely no way of assuring anyone that FTX was legitimate! Zero. Zippo. Nada. Nothing!! You're making stuff up as you go

Just trying to gaslight anyone who challenges you

Not going to work with me

I KNOW you can't possibly have anyway of KNOWING that FTX was not use to launder money and I'm 99.99% certain that it was.

I don't have any evidence, no one does - either way

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is the last time I address any of your posts about FTX in this topic.

You are more than welcome to come to the relevant topic so I can bury you.

Your call.

Wait, FTX has nothing to do with American aid to Ukraine?

Are you certain?