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Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
NYPD Announces Citywide Crime Statistics for June 2020
Don't ya just hate when all those rich folk take up a life of crime.
- Murder is up +23.1% (181 v. 147) for the first six months of 2020 when compared to the first six months of 2019.
- There were 205 citywide shooting incidents in June 2020, compared to 89 shooting incidents in June 2019, a 130.3% increase. Year-to-date, through June 30, there is a +46% spike in citywide shooting incidents (528 v. 362).
- Burglary increased +118.2% (1,783 v. 817) in June and is up +46.3% (7,234 v. 4,943) year-to-date through June 30.
Yea and we have the rona
Which makes your correlation useless
As crime stats almost always are when pigs hold them up. THey didn't fix NYC
NYC just got richer over the last few decades per capita, by a lot. Now it's poorer and there is more crime, this is exactly what you would expect when standard of living goes down. Not to mention the weird social dynamics of quarantine
Cops can prevent crime, just not within what most of us would consider rational schemes to do so.
For example stop and frisk, yea it probably reduced crime an observable amount in the neighborhoods they used it in, and yea it was orwellian as fuck
Wait, did I read that wrong, didn't you say...
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
NYPD Announces Citywide Crime Statistics for June 2020
Don't ya just hate when all those rich folk take up a life of crime.
- Murder is up +23.1% (181 v. 147) for the first six months of 2020 when compared to the first six months of 2019.
- There were 205 citywide shooting incidents in June 2020, compared to 89 shooting incidents in June 2019, a 130.3% increase. Year-to-date, through June 30, there is a +46% spike in citywide shooting incidents (528 v. 362).
- Burglary increased +118.2% (1,783 v. 817) in June and is up +46.3% (7,234 v. 4,943) year-to-date through June 30.
Yea and we have the rona
Which makes your correlation useless
As crime stats almost always are when pigs hold them up. THey didn't fix NYC
NYC just got richer over the last few decades per capita, by a lot. Now it's poorer and there is more crime, this is exactly what you would expect when standard of living goes down. Not to mention the weird social dynamics of quarantine
Cops can prevent crime, just not within what most of us would consider rational schemes to do so.
For example stop and frisk, yea it probably reduced crime, and yea it was orwellian as fuck
Yes indeed, thank you De Blasio.
If cops came out and said "when we shit on your rights we reduce crime" i'd take them more seriously
Because that's how actual crime prevention gets done. Just spraying the populace with countermeasures until you find something to act on. Like stop and frisk or ripping up cars for "weed" when really you're looking for a gun
Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfaretheweek.com
Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
NYPD Announces Citywide Crime Statistics for June 2020
Don't ya just hate when all those rich folk take up a life of crime.
- Murder is up +23.1% (181 v. 147) for the first six months of 2020 when compared to the first six months of 2019.
- There were 205 citywide shooting incidents in June 2020, compared to 89 shooting incidents in June 2019, a 130.3% increase. Year-to-date, through June 30, there is a +46% spike in citywide shooting incidents (528 v. 362).
- Burglary increased +118.2% (1,783 v. 817) in June and is up +46.3% (7,234 v. 4,943) year-to-date through June 30.
Yea and we have the rona
Which makes your correlation useless
As crime stats almost always are when pigs hold them up. THey didn't fix NYC
NYC just got richer over the last few decades per capita, by a lot. Now it's poorer and there is more crime, this is exactly what you would expect when standard of living goes down. Not to mention the weird social dynamics of quarantine
Cops can prevent crime, just not within what most of us would consider rational schemes to do so.
For example stop and frisk, yea it probably reduced crime an observable amount in the neighborhoods they used it in, and yea it was orwellian as fuck
Wait, did I read that wrong, didn't you say...
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
yea i'm not some hippy
what sane person would deny that?
Richer people commit less crime, especially violent crime. Shocker.
When you see row houses getting turned into condos know it wasn't the cops that reduced the crime rates. It was the real estate developers.
Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
NYPD Announces Citywide Crime Statistics for June 2020
Don't ya just hate when all those rich folk take up a life of crime.
- Murder is up +23.1% (181 v. 147) for the first six months of 2020 when compared to the first six months of 2019.
- There were 205 citywide shooting incidents in June 2020, compared to 89 shooting incidents in June 2019, a 130.3% increase. Year-to-date, through June 30, there is a +46% spike in citywide shooting incidents (528 v. 362).
- Burglary increased +118.2% (1,783 v. 817) in June and is up +46.3% (7,234 v. 4,943) year-to-date through June 30.
Yea and we have the rona
Which makes your correlation useless
As crime stats almost always are when pigs hold them up. THey didn't fix NYC
NYC just got richer over the last few decades per capita, by a lot. Now it's poorer and there is more crime, this is exactly what you would expect when standard of living goes down. Not to mention the weird social dynamics of quarantine
Cops can prevent crime, just not within what most of us would consider rational schemes to do so.
For example stop and frisk, yea it probably reduced crime, and yea it was orwellian as fuck
Yes indeed, thank you De Blasio.
If cops came out and said "when we shit on your rights we reduce crime" i'd take them more seriously
Because that's how actual crime prevention gets done. Just spraying the populace with countermeasures until you find something to act on. Like stop and frisk or ripping up cars for "weed" when really you're looking for a gun
So politicians "shitting" on your rights reduces crime?
Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare
Ok urban is another, fair. But rural blacks commit way less crime too
My mothers from the country, you and i both know when you have one sheriff on duty int he fuckign county most crimes aren't getting recorded. I could greet the local sheriff with a beer in my hand driving around in illinois and he'd probably just nod at me. (can't drive with an open container in illinois by law)
Poor urban whites are not much better behaved than blacks. And with the meth epidemic god knows whites are using drugs at just a high a rate even in the middle of no where.
Black America is more urban that's their problem.
Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare
Ok urban is another, fair. But rural blacks commit way less crime too
My mothers from the country, you and i both know when you have one sheriff on duty int he fuckign county most crimes aren't getting recorded. I could greet the local sheriff with a beer in my hand driving around in illinois and he'd probably just nod at me. (can't drive with an open container in illinois by law)
Poor urban whites are not much better behaved than blacks. And with the meth epidemic god knows whites are using drugs at just a high a rate even in the middle of no where.
Black America is more urban that's their problem.
"Black America is more urban that's their problem."
Urban....you mean like Asians? What's the crime rate among urban Asians looking like these days?
Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare
Ok urban is another, fair. But rural blacks commit way less crime too
My mothers from the country, you and i both know when you have one sheriff on duty int he fuckign county most crimes aren't getting recorded. I could greet the local sheriff with a beer in my hand driving around in illinois and he'd probably just nod at me. (can't drive with an open container in illinois by law)
Poor urban whites are not much better behaved than blacks. And with the meth epidemic god knows whites are using drugs at just a high a rate even in the middle of no where.
Black America is more urban that's their problem.
"Black America is more urban that's their problem."
Urban....you mean like Asians? What's the crime rate among urban Asians looking like these days?
Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group
African immigrants don't have high crime rates either, they make money. Nigerian immigrants probably have a very similar crime rate to the Chinese, Indians, and Eastern Euros. All their other outcomes are pretty good. We just don't have a special "african immigrant" category in crime stats or "former soviet bloc immigrant"
Only exception to that i've ever heard of were Jamaicans who apparently assimilate native black crime rates very fast according to the data. Or that was true once anyway.
In 100 years we'll see what Asian crime rates are like...There have to be more native born asians than immigrants for that counter to start ticking tho. And at the rate Americans breed idk if it's even possible.
www.cbsnews.com
So why do we have entire state shitholes like LA, AL, MS, KY, and KS?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare
Ok urban is another, fair. But rural blacks commit way less crime too
My mothers from the country, you and i both know when you have one sheriff on duty int he fuckign county most crimes aren't getting recorded. I could greet the local sheriff with a beer in my hand driving around in illinois and he'd probably just nod at me. (can't drive with an open container in illinois by law)
Poor urban whites are not much better behaved than blacks. And with the meth epidemic god knows whites are using drugs at just a high a rate even in the middle of no where.
Black America is more urban that's their problem.
"Black America is more urban that's their problem."
Urban....you mean like Asians? What's the crime rate among urban Asians looking like these days?
Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group
African immigrants don't have high crime rates either, they make money. Nigerian immigrants probably have a very similar crime rate to the Chinese, Indians, and Eastern Euros. All their other outcomes are pretty good. We just don't have a special "african immigrant" category in crime stats or "former soviet bloc immigrant"
Only exception to that i've ever heard of were Jamaicans who apparently assimilate native black crime rates very fast according to the data. Or that was true once anyway.
In 100 years we'll see what Asian crime rates are like...There have to be more native born asians than immigrants for that counter to start ticking tho. And at the rate Americans breed idk if it's even possible.
"Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group."
You mean like the Somalis in Minneapolis?
Rise of Somali Gangs Plagues Minneapolis
7 Somali Men Killed over 10-month Period, and Cops Believe All were Killed by Fellow Somalis
Liberals and blacks.There’s a lot of harm to the country when you work to detach people from reality as Trump has done. It makes them easily manipulated.Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Okay...gotcha.
Meanwhile the aforementioned cities and states remain in chaotic disarray....who/what is to blame? Let’s talk about it.
All that crime is concentrated in one small corner of the city.Shawnee, Oklahoma has almost one thousand percent higher rating for crime than the national average.. It is a red state and a red county...Why do you leave them out of this?The murder and violent crime rates in St Louis, Baltimore, Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles...the anarchy and “autonomous zones” in the Pacific Northwest...you just pretend it’s all normal? Well shit, no wonder you don’t talk about it....hahaThey’re not in chaotic disarray.There’s a lot of harm to the country when you work to detach people from reality as Trump has done. It makes them easily manipulated.Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Okay...gotcha.
Meanwhile the aforementioned cities and states remain in chaotic disarray....who/what is to blame? Let’s talk about it.
Which is a disgrace.Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare
Ok urban is another, fair. But rural blacks commit way less crime too
My mothers from the country, you and i both know when you have one sheriff on duty int he fuckign county most crimes aren't getting recorded. I could greet the local sheriff with a beer in my hand driving around in illinois and he'd probably just nod at me. (can't drive with an open container in illinois by law)
Poor urban whites are not much better behaved than blacks. And with the meth epidemic god knows whites are using drugs at just a high a rate even in the middle of no where.
Black America is more urban that's their problem.
"Black America is more urban that's their problem."
Urban....you mean like Asians? What's the crime rate among urban Asians looking like these days?
Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group
African immigrants don't have high crime rates either, they make money. Nigerian immigrants probably have a very similar crime rate to the Chinese, Indians, and Eastern Euros. All their other outcomes are pretty good. We just don't have a special "african immigrant" category in crime stats or "former soviet bloc immigrant"
Only exception to that i've ever heard of were Jamaicans who apparently assimilate native black crime rates very fast according to the data. Or that was true once anyway.
In 100 years we'll see what Asian crime rates are like...There have to be more native born asians than immigrants for that counter to start ticking tho. And at the rate Americans breed idk if it's even possible.
"Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group."
You mean like the Somalis in Minneapolis?
Rise of Somali Gangs Plagues Minneapolis
7 Somali Men Killed over 10-month Period, and Cops Believe All were Killed by Fellow Somalis
they are refugees, the opposite lol
everything about their coming to america was subsidized
if you didn't help them get across and we let them in, yea then they're self selecting. If you can't get here on your own legally. You're not a self selecting immigrant...
The probelm with guys like you who wanna talk about immigration is you know nothing about immigration policy or immigrants. If you want a solid "nativist" view of immigrants go to Mark Krikorian, the pre eminent thinker on the right on immigration. At least in academic circles.
First rule of nationalism is more people is better in the long term, always, so in that lens you want to maximize immigration (and birth rate).
Anyone not starting from there doesn't know what's best for their nation. Especially in 2020 when some nations are about to have inverted age pyramids.
Which is a disgrace.Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare
Ok urban is another, fair. But rural blacks commit way less crime too
My mothers from the country, you and i both know when you have one sheriff on duty int he fuckign county most crimes aren't getting recorded. I could greet the local sheriff with a beer in my hand driving around in illinois and he'd probably just nod at me. (can't drive with an open container in illinois by law)
Poor urban whites are not much better behaved than blacks. And with the meth epidemic god knows whites are using drugs at just a high a rate even in the middle of no where.
Black America is more urban that's their problem.
"Black America is more urban that's their problem."
Urban....you mean like Asians? What's the crime rate among urban Asians looking like these days?
Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group
African immigrants don't have high crime rates either, they make money. Nigerian immigrants probably have a very similar crime rate to the Chinese, Indians, and Eastern Euros. All their other outcomes are pretty good. We just don't have a special "african immigrant" category in crime stats or "former soviet bloc immigrant"
Only exception to that i've ever heard of were Jamaicans who apparently assimilate native black crime rates very fast according to the data. Or that was true once anyway.
In 100 years we'll see what Asian crime rates are like...There have to be more native born asians than immigrants for that counter to start ticking tho. And at the rate Americans breed idk if it's even possible.
"Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group."
You mean like the Somalis in Minneapolis?
Rise of Somali Gangs Plagues Minneapolis
7 Somali Men Killed over 10-month Period, and Cops Believe All were Killed by Fellow Somalis
they are refugees, the opposite lol
everything about their coming to america was subsidized
if you didn't help them get across and we let them in, yea then they're self selecting. If you can't get here on your own legally. You're not a self selecting immigrant...
The probelm with guys like you who wanna talk about immigration is you know nothing about immigration policy or immigrants. If you want a solid "nativist" view of immigrants go to Mark Krikorian, the pre eminent thinker on the right on immigration. At least in academic circles.
First rule of nationalism is more people is better in the long term, always, so in that lens you want to maximize immigration (and birth rate).
Anyone not starting from there doesn't know what's best for their nation. Especially in 2020 when some nations are about to have inverted age pyramids.
We imported these roaches... why exactly??? Did we feel we didn’t have enough crime? Did we have a surplus and Needed some more low IQ Mongoloids on welfare? Did we need some more Muslims?
These people should never be let in, let alone imported.
The boogers have no desire to be doing anything more than necessary including doing a theft or stealing a car. They have no motivation in other words.Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare
Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Indeed,the dem loving trolls here evade pesky facts that they are the ones destroying america,that because the dem party is not what it used to be,kennedy is rolling over in his grave right now which is why thousands of americas are fleeing it left and right same as they are california and the dem loving trolls here can only sling shit in defeat like the monkey trolls they are with this video proof.The democrats are outright communists. They intend to expand the chaos and disarray in the belief that the people will clamor for communist tyranny.There’s a lot of harm to the country when you work to detach people from reality as Trump has done. It makes them easily manipulated.Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Okay...gotcha.
Meanwhile the aforementioned cities and states remain in chaotic disarray....who/what is to blame? Let’s talk about it.
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I would love to see a republican try to work. I gave up on hiring repukes as they just do not understand how to hold or use a shovel or pick. And wheelbarrows are just to tough for them to use.Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Oh Democrats blame Republicans and white people for problems in the cities you mentioned. Living outside of Baltimore, I am quite familiar with the problems that city has. Trump called out 50 + year of Democrat rule and representation of Baltimore and that it was a rat-infested shit hole. Then, a group of Conservatives banned together, rolled up their sleeves, and literally had a clean up party in the slums of Baltimore. The vile hatred for Trump among Liberals and Democrats was so extreme, the conservatives were admonished by the Liberals for actually giving a flying fuck and trying to clean it up. It was almost like they were screaming, "No! Leave that mess there! Don't touch it."
Pathetic.
So it’s just the kids who misbehave? Pretty sure it’s the adults as well.Which is a disgrace.Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare
Ok urban is another, fair. But rural blacks commit way less crime too
My mothers from the country, you and i both know when you have one sheriff on duty int he fuckign county most crimes aren't getting recorded. I could greet the local sheriff with a beer in my hand driving around in illinois and he'd probably just nod at me. (can't drive with an open container in illinois by law)
Poor urban whites are not much better behaved than blacks. And with the meth epidemic god knows whites are using drugs at just a high a rate even in the middle of no where.
Black America is more urban that's their problem.
"Black America is more urban that's their problem."
Urban....you mean like Asians? What's the crime rate among urban Asians looking like these days?
Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group
African immigrants don't have high crime rates either, they make money. Nigerian immigrants probably have a very similar crime rate to the Chinese, Indians, and Eastern Euros. All their other outcomes are pretty good. We just don't have a special "african immigrant" category in crime stats or "former soviet bloc immigrant"
Only exception to that i've ever heard of were Jamaicans who apparently assimilate native black crime rates very fast according to the data. Or that was true once anyway.
In 100 years we'll see what Asian crime rates are like...There have to be more native born asians than immigrants for that counter to start ticking tho. And at the rate Americans breed idk if it's even possible.
"Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group."
You mean like the Somalis in Minneapolis?
Rise of Somali Gangs Plagues Minneapolis
7 Somali Men Killed over 10-month Period, and Cops Believe All were Killed by Fellow Somalis
they are refugees, the opposite lol
everything about their coming to america was subsidized
if you didn't help them get across and we let them in, yea then they're self selecting. If you can't get here on your own legally. You're not a self selecting immigrant...
The probelm with guys like you who wanna talk about immigration is you know nothing about immigration policy or immigrants. If you want a solid "nativist" view of immigrants go to Mark Krikorian, the pre eminent thinker on the right on immigration. At least in academic circles.
First rule of nationalism is more people is better in the long term, always, so in that lens you want to maximize immigration (and birth rate).
Anyone not starting from there doesn't know what's best for their nation. Especially in 2020 when some nations are about to have inverted age pyramids.
We imported these roaches... why exactly??? Did we feel we didn’t have enough crime? Did we have a surplus and Needed some more low IQ Mongoloids on welfare? Did we need some more Muslims?
These people should never be let in, let alone imported.
I don't particularly dislike them, but grouping them up like that was clearly a bad idea.
Kids who grew up in war torn africa aren't well behaved or socialized by American standards, who would have guessed?
Are you saying Dem ideology / policy does not manifest violence, civil disobedience, poverty, chaos and disarray?Dems seem to be awfully in touch with all the ‘damage’ Trump has caused in America.
I’ve been searching for threads/posts where these same Dems whom are so vocal and connected to America’s issues have discussed the root cause of the chaos, violence, hate and anarchy in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and the cities and states mentioned in the title.
I’ve yet to find anything so I ask; Dems, could it be Dem policy and Dem ideologies lying at the root of all the disorder and madness?
Chicago was never nice, at least not in living memory
NY is nicer than it's ever been because they pushed all the poorer* people out
Cops take the credit but that's not what it was....They just priced out most of the poor people in NYC proper
And there is just the general movement towards non violence for humanity no matter how poor you are. Violence rates been dropping for generations all over the planet.
I'm saying the real correlation is poverty
Would having a police state with surveillance camers, 1 cop for every 10 citizens, and no bill of rights decrease teh crime rate? Yea probably
Works for teh Japanese
But within what we would consider the limits of a free society? No
People are struggling crime rates go up, really impossible to disagregate that from police behavior. You can point to any success police claim to have (again without a massive surveillance state, they have crushed crime in a few cities by just making it impossible to shoot a gun without the state knowing immediately, Newark the most famous example)
Most of the time it's got nothing to do with the cops
"I'm saying the real correlation is poverty"
If true, why such low crime in predominantly white, likeminded, no multiculturalism Appalachia?
“There's not much violent crime here. There's a bit of the usual enterprise one finds everywhere there are drugs and poor people, which is to say, everywhere. But even the crime here is pretty well predictable. The police chief's assistant notes that if they know the nature and location of a particular crime, they can more or less drive straight to the perpetrator.
There's a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average.”
Appalachia: The big white ghetto
In Appalachia, jobs have vanished, and people live for pills, soda pop, and welfare
Ok urban is another, fair. But rural blacks commit way less crime too
My mothers from the country, you and i both know when you have one sheriff on duty int he fuckign county most crimes aren't getting recorded. I could greet the local sheriff with a beer in my hand driving around in illinois and he'd probably just nod at me. (can't drive with an open container in illinois by law)
Poor urban whites are not much better behaved than blacks. And with the meth epidemic god knows whites are using drugs at just a high a rate even in the middle of no where.
Black America is more urban that's their problem.
"Black America is more urban that's their problem."
Urban....you mean like Asians? What's the crime rate among urban Asians looking like these days?
Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group
African immigrants don't have high crime rates either, they make money. Nigerian immigrants probably have a very similar crime rate to the Chinese, Indians, and Eastern Euros. All their other outcomes are pretty good. We just don't have a special "african immigrant" category in crime stats or "former soviet bloc immigrant"
Only exception to that i've ever heard of were Jamaicans who apparently assimilate native black crime rates very fast according to the data. Or that was true once anyway.
In 100 years we'll see what Asian crime rates are like...There have to be more native born asians than immigrants for that counter to start ticking tho. And at the rate Americans breed idk if it's even possible.
"Asians are a modern self selecting immigrant group."
You mean like the Somalis in Minneapolis?
Rise of Somali Gangs Plagues Minneapolis
7 Somali Men Killed over 10-month Period, and Cops Believe All were Killed by Fellow Somalis
they are refugees, the opposite lol
everything about their coming to america was subsidized
if you didn't help them get across and we let them in, yea then they're self selecting. If you can't get here on your own legally. You're not a self selecting immigrant...
The problem with guys like you who wanna talk about immigration is you know nothing about immigration policy or immigrants. If you want a solid "nativist" view of immigrants go to Mark Krikorian, the pre eminent thinker on the right on immigration. At least in academic circles. Center for Immigration Studies. The man goes by teh data.
First rule of nationalism is more people is better in the long term, always, so in that lens you want to maximize immigration (and birth rate).
Anyone not starting from there doesn't know what's best for their nation. Especially in 2020 when some nations are about to have inverted age pyramids.
Refugges are charity and is not in the same vein as most legal modern American immigrants.
