Democrats want families earning $500,000 to keep getting Obamacare subsidies!

[Lisa558]

Got it. "Immigrant" given free ACA so they could show what a success it was. smh.

So you get off the boat, 1st thing you rush to get health care at $800/mo with no job, no money, no home? Pre-existing? Why not get it treated in China?

The whole thing stinks like Stain BS.

She was getting American taxpayers to pay $800 per month so she could get a cushy plan. Yeeks.

 

[Rogue AI]

Republicans don't have a plan not in the last 42 Years. Yes Obamacare is still too expensive.

The transition to Full Coverage Single Payer Health Insurance would apply the savings from costly administration and profits to expanded and improved Full Coverage Single payer—or Medicare for All—is simply a streamlined financing mechanism where one entity administers the health care funding and payments.

Top 10 Reasons For Enacting a Single Payer Healthcare System WHICH provides the healthiest population in the world. Most countries in the world have this.

Top 10 Reasons For Enacting a Single Payer Healthcare System

Which covers:

prescription drugs

hospital

surgical

outpatient services

primary and preventive care

emergency services

dental

mental health

home health

physical therapy

rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)

vision care

chiropractic

long-term care.

For Enacting a Single Payer Healthcare System for ALL>

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Full Coverage Single Payer ends deductibles, co-payments and bankruptcy due to healthcare.


Full Coverage Single Payer would save billions annually by eliminating high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.

Why would Republicans need a plan for something that isn't the government's responsibility?

 

[schmidlap]

Do any of you Democrat Socialists crying about “people’s premiums will double!!!” realize just how extensive the temporary expansion of Ocare subsidies have been?!

A wealthy family of five earning $500,000 get $8,000 in subsidies a year. And a very affluent family of five earning $350,000 year get $21,000 a year. Did you all know that?

And why? Because Obamacare drove costs up so much that health insurance costs a family of five $50,000 a year!
This shows what an abject failure Obamacare is. Obama created a system so unaffordable that everyone needs government welfare to afford it. And that was by intent.

With a debt of $37 trillion, it is past time to stop the trillion dollars it costs to prop up this new welfare program. The subsidies should revert to pre-COVID levels.

(page 6 shows how families earning $500,000 get subsidies.)

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Ways-and-Means-testimony-3.21-FINAL-Blase.pdf

Why do Republicans want to deprive millions of Americans of healthcare coverage?

Under the upcoming changes in health care legislation, approximately 5 million Americans currently enrolled in the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace are likely to lose their coverage due to the expiration of subsidies at the end of 2025. Additionally, nearly 11 million Americans would lose Medicaid coverage as part of the budget reconciliation bill. These changes could significantly impact low-income individuals, particularly those enrolled in Medicaid, which currently covers over 78 million people.

How 17M Americans enrolled in Medicaid and ACA plans could lose their health insurance by 2034

The biggest changes will be to the Medicaid program, which currently covers more than 78 million people. And Congress may cut health care spending further.

theconversation.com

 

[Lisa558]

Why do Republicans want to deprive millions of Americans of healthcare coverage?

Under the upcoming changes in health care legislation, approximately 5 million Americans currently enrolled in the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace are likely to lose their coverage due to the expiration of subsidies at the end of 2025. Additionally, nearly 11 million Americans would lose Medicaid coverage as part of the budget reconciliation bill. These changes could significantly impact low-income individuals, particularly those enrolled in Medicaid, which currently covers over 78 million people.

How 17M Americans enrolled in Medicaid and ACA plans could lose their health insurance by 2034

The biggest changes will be to the Medicaid program, which currently covers more than 78 million people. And Congress may cut health care spending further.

theconversation.com

Why do leftards LIE all the time? Those were TEMPORARY expansions of subsidies for COVID.

And 5 million won’t lose the coverage. They’ll just have to pay based on the schedule Obama devised: eligible for welfare assistance…..oops, subsidies…..if they make 400% of poverty level or less.

Are you saying that the schedule Obama devised was unaffordable? We’re just going back to what he jammed down our throats.

 

[Winco]

A wealthy family of five earning $500,000 get $8,000 in subsidies a year

Can you explain this....^^^^^^^.

Seriously, in your own words, what are you saying?
What are these $8,000 Subsidies?

 

[Greenbeard]

And 5 million won’t lose the coverage. They’ll just have to pay based on the schedule Obama devised: eligible for welfare assistance…..oops, subsidies…..if they make 400% of poverty level or less.

Are you saying that the schedule Obama devised was unaffordable?

Didn't you say above that the original schedule was unaffordable?

 

[Robert W]

Do any of you Democrat Socialists crying about “people’s premiums will double!!!” realize just how extensive the temporary expansion of Ocare subsidies have been?!

A wealthy family of five earning $500,000 get $8,000 in subsidies a year. And a very affluent family of five earning $350,000 year get $21,000 a year. Did you all know that?

And why? Because Obamacare drove costs up so much that health insurance costs a family of five $50,000 a year!
This shows what an abject failure Obamacare is. Obama created a system so unaffordable that everyone needs government welfare to afford it. And that was by intent.

With a debt of $37 trillion, it is past time to stop the trillion dollars it costs to prop up this new welfare program. The subsidies should revert to pre-COVID levels.

(page 6 shows how families earning $500,000 get subsidies.)

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Ways-and-Means-testimony-3.21-FINAL-Blase.pdf

That outstanding report should be studied by all citizens. Bear in mind this, you pay for health care two major ways, insurance and the doctor. Oklahoma hospital shows medical care is cheaper when insurance is not used.

 

[Rawley]

AI Overview

No, a family earning $500,000 a year does not qualify for ACA subsidies, as they exceed the income limit based on the federal poverty level (FPL).

Dude, your cult thanks your for your ignorance. They eliminated the cap on income in 2022.

Enhanced Premium Tax Credits: Who Benefits, How Much, and What Happens Next? • Bipartisan Policy Center

As Democrats and Republicans consider a path forward, this issue brief examines recent federal policy changes to premium subsidies, the populations likely to be affected by expiration of the enhanced PTCs, the key levers to reform the enhanced PTCs, and available data on recent policy proposals.

bipartisanpolicy.org

 

[Rawley]

I had to laugh that any buffoon would believe that. 1300% of FPL and the expanded tax credits only went from 400% to 600% FPL.

So OP and the article she posted was a goddamn lie.

Dude, your cult thanks your for your ignorance. They eliminated the cap on income in 2022.

Enhanced Premium Tax Credits: Who Benefits, How Much, and What Happens Next? • Bipartisan Policy Center

As Democrats and Republicans consider a path forward, this issue brief examines recent federal policy changes to premium subsidies, the populations likely to be affected by expiration of the enhanced PTCs, the key levers to reform the enhanced PTCs, and available data on recent policy proposals.

bipartisanpolicy.org

 

[Rawley]

"Fake news" in 3, 2, 1....

Dude, your cult thanks your for your ignorance. They eliminated the cap on income in 2022.

Enhanced Premium Tax Credits: Who Benefits, How Much, and What Happens Next? • Bipartisan Policy Center

As Democrats and Republicans consider a path forward, this issue brief examines recent federal policy changes to premium subsidies, the populations likely to be affected by expiration of the enhanced PTCs, the key levers to reform the enhanced PTCs, and available data on recent policy proposals.

bipartisanpolicy.org

 

[Rawley]

Yup. They'll be saying AI is a left wing controlled conspiracy to keep people misinformed. Cuz, you know, something has to explain their factual incorrectness other than, "I was wrong."

Dude, your cult thanks your for your ignorance. They eliminated the cap on income in 2022.

Enhanced Premium Tax Credits: Who Benefits, How Much, and What Happens Next? • Bipartisan Policy Center

As Democrats and Republicans consider a path forward, this issue brief examines recent federal policy changes to premium subsidies, the populations likely to be affected by expiration of the enhanced PTCs, the key levers to reform the enhanced PTCs, and available data on recent policy proposals.

bipartisanpolicy.org

 

[Lisa558]

Didn't you say above that the original schedule was unaffordable?

Obama and the Dems raved about it - it would save people money, and you could keep your plan and doctor - so what’s the objection to going back to the plan the Dems insisted was so wonderful?

You’re now admitting it was never affordable, from the start?

 

[Greenbeard]

Obama and the Dems raved about it - it would save people money, and you could keep your plan and doctor - so what’s the objection to going back to the plan the Dems insisted was so wonderful?

You’re now admitting it was never affordable, from the start?

I agree with your premise that the enhanced subsidies are better than the original ACA. They should be made permanent.

 

[Lisa558]

That outstanding report should be studied by all citizens. Bear in mind this, you pay for health care two major ways, insurance and the doctor. Oklahoma hospital shows medical care is cheaper when insurance is not used.

Yup. All Obamacare did was drive up costs.

That’s what happens when government subsidizes something, prices skyrocket. Just look what has happened to college tuition.

Medical procedures that don’t accept insurance are priced low so people can afford them.

 

[Lisa558]

I agree with your premise that the enhanced subsidies are better than the original ACA. They should be made permanent.

I never said that. Throwing another trillion dollars at a failed program will just drive costs up more.

 

[Rawley]

It's untrue and easily disproven. And it's the kind of thing they're fed, 24/7/365. Adding to the rage.

And they don't question a word. That's why they really do think they're "at war".

Dude, your cult thanks your for your ignorance. They eliminated the cap on income in 2022.

Enhanced Premium Tax Credits: Who Benefits, How Much, and What Happens Next? • Bipartisan Policy Center

As Democrats and Republicans consider a path forward, this issue brief examines recent federal policy changes to premium subsidies, the populations likely to be affected by expiration of the enhanced PTCs, the key levers to reform the enhanced PTCs, and available data on recent policy proposals.

bipartisanpolicy.org

 

[Marener]

I never said that. Throwing another trillion dollars at a failed program will just drive costs up more.

CBO says it will cost $350 billion over the next decade. Not too shabby.

 

[Marener]

That outstanding report should be studied by all citizens. Bear in mind this, you pay for health care two major ways, insurance and the doctor. Oklahoma hospital shows medical care is cheaper when insurance is not used.

I’m convinced. Time to end Medicare.

 

[Greenbeard]

I’m convinced. Time to end Medicare.

Careful what you wish for!

Medicare payments to doctors paused as government shutdown drags on

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is pausing Medicare payments to doctors, as negotiations tied to the government shutdown drag on.

www.statnews.com

 

[leftwinger]

CBO says it will cost $350 billion over the next decade. Not too shabby.

Stupid lying Stain. UpChuck was asking for $1.5T to pay for "it"? What is "it"? Free Healthcare for 1378% of poverty line (per Mac) forever?

When you go begging for $1.5T, you better spell out exactly what it's for you dumb OXYEN herd.