Democrats want families earning $500,000 to keep getting Obamacare subsidies!

[debbiedowner]

Do any of you Democrat Socialists crying about “people’s premiums will double!!!” realize just how extensive the temporary expansion of Ocare subsidies have been?!

A wealthy family of five earning $500,000 get $8,000 in subsidies a year. And a very affluent family of five earning $350,000 year get $21,000 a year. Did you all know that?

And why? Because Obamacare drove costs up so much that health insurance costs a family of five $50,000 a year!
This shows what an abject failure Obamacare is. Obama created a system so unaffordable that everyone needs government welfare to afford it. And that was by intent.

With a debt of $37 trillion, it is past time to stop the trillion dollars it costs to prop up this new welfare program. The subsidies should revert to pre-COVID levels.

(page 6 shows how families earning $500,000 get subsidies.)

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Ways-and-Means-testimony-3.21-FINAL-Blase.pdf

This has been the biggest fake news you've ever posted.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Do any of you Democrat Socialists crying about “people’s premiums will double!!!” realize just how extensive the temporary expansion of Ocare subsidies have been?!

A wealthy family of five earning $500,000 get $8,000 in subsidies a year. And a very affluent family of five earning $350,000 year get $21,000 a year. Did you all know that?

And why? Because Obamacare drove costs up so much that health insurance costs a family of five $50,000 a year!
This shows what an abject failure Obamacare is. Obama created a system so unaffordable that everyone needs government welfare to afford it. And that was by intent.

With a debt of $37 trillion, it is past time to stop the trillion dollars it costs to prop up this new welfare program. The subsidies should revert to pre-COVID levels.

(page 6 shows how families earning $500,000 get subsidies.)

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Ways-and-Means-testimony-3.21-FINAL-Blase.pdf

Depending on where you are $500,000 County be the poverty line.

 

[AntonToo]

Do any of you Democrat Socialists crying about “people’s premiums will double!!!” realize just how extensive the temporary expansion of Ocare subsidies have been?!

A wealthy family of five earning $500,000 get $8,000 in subsidies a year. And a very affluent family of five earning $350,000 year get $21,000 a year. Did you all know that?

And why? Because Obamacare drove costs up so much that health insurance costs a family of five $50,000 a year!
This shows what an abject failure Obamacare is. Obama created a system so unaffordable that everyone needs government welfare to afford it. And that was by intent.

With a debt of $37 trillion, it is past time to stop the trillion dollars it costs to prop up this new welfare program. The subsidies should revert to pre-COVID levels.

(page 6 shows how families earning $500,000 get subsidies.)

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Ways-and-Means-testimony-3.21-FINAL-Blase.pdf

Stop posting stupid lies, Democrats support affordable healthcare and subsidies for low and middle income, not for the rich.

ACA credits are means tested. People earning $500,000 wouldn't get shit.

Here is a subsidy calculator:

2026 Obamacare subsidy calculator | healthinsurance.org

Our ACA health insurance subsidy calculator estimates your premium subsidy based on your income, age and household size.

www.healthinsurance.org

 

[debbiedowner]

He still testified under oath to Congress.

Then he lied.

 

[Mac1958]

I had to laugh that any buffoon would believe that. 1300% of FPL and the expanded tax credits only went from 400% to 600% FPL.

So OP and the article she posted was a goddamn lie.

It's untrue and easily disproven. And it's the kind of thing they're fed, 24/7/365. Adding to the rage.

And they don't question a word. That's why they really do think they're "at war".

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Do any of you Democrat Socialists crying about “people’s premiums will double!!!” realize just how extensive the temporary expansion of Ocare subsidies have been?!

A wealthy family of five earning $500,000 get $8,000 in subsidies a year. And a very affluent family of five earning $350,000 year get $21,000 a year. Did you all know that?

And why? Because Obamacare drove costs up so much that health insurance costs a family of five $50,000 a year!
This shows what an abject failure Obamacare is. Obama created a system so unaffordable that everyone needs government welfare to afford it. And that was by intent.

That is bullshit. Health care costs would be even higher right now if it wasn't for Obamacare.

Better question -- Do you want families earning $50,000 per year to pay double in health care?

With a debt of $37 trillion, it is past time to stop the trillion dollars it costs to prop up this new welfare program. The subsidies should revert to pre-COVID levels.

Awww....look at the MAGA lightweight who is concerned about the national debt. How cute.

So I guess you are ready to end that $1 trillion tax cuts for billionaires in the Big Ugly Bill? Hypocrite.

 

[22lcidw]

That is bullshit. Health care costs would be even higher right now if it wasn't for Obamacare.

Better question -- Do you want families earning $50,000 per year to pay double in health care?


Awww....look at the MAGA lightweight who is concerned about the national debt. How cute.

So I guess you are ready to end that $1 trillion tax cuts for billionaires in the Big Ugly Bill? Hypocrite.

If you are so right, why did the Republicans win the 2024 election? Your way was the right one when Joe was installed.

 

[JoeB131]

You can change insurance companies, you can't change your government.

Really? Most of us get our insurance companies from our employers, and we have NO say in what the program is.

If you had been paying attention to the Natalie Sarkisyan case, they ruled that the family had no standing to sue the Insurance Company for non-performance, because their contract was with the fathers employer.

And you are a fool to think you can vote out such a program once it become entrenched, and given to the bureaucracy.

Most programs don't get removed because people are generally happy with them.

lol Then they're making some really really bad decisions.

Not really. One major illness from a bankruptcy. That's were we are at.

 

[JoeB131]

Because those subsidies were based on her projected annual income, and paid monthly. Her projected annual income for that year turned out to be false once she married you.

Except her projected income for the year was actually, kind of small, and that was her only income for the first nine months of that year.

The last three months, she was on my insurance

Lisa lives in mortal fear someone might be taken care of.

 

[Care4all]

No, when I first started out I couldn’t afford regular insurance, so I went with a catastrophic care plan that didn’t cost much - but in case of a real medical catastrophe.

Otherwise, I went to cheapo clinics if I got a routine problem and paid cash.

Now, Obamacare plans are priced as if they’re full coverage but are basically catastrophic plans. That what it means when you have a $10k deductible: you pay routine stuff yourself.

Except doctor visits are covered under the bronze plans/catastrophic plans, and all appropriate annual tests for the age group, so things like mamograms, annual Gyno visit, and colonoscopies are covered...I doubt there are any mandatory tests for young people but they can still see the doctor with a small copay....without having the deductible met, from my understanding....

All my jobs, even when working in high school, offered health insurance as a benefit....for just a few dollars with 80/20 coverage, $100 deductibles...

my father was USAF so my medical when living with my parents as a child was covered

I agree that the insurance policy amounts are out of control!

Even Medicare... And paying the $185 a month, plus another +/-$200 for a supplemental plan that is to cover only the 20%, plus a part D plan for prescriptions, is much more than I ever expected after paying in to Medicare a lifetime, and it is much more than we paid when I had coverage through the hubby employer, which I thought was high back then...and double those costs for both of us when we both are on it.

Sorry, I had to ***** about it...it all is coming as a surprise....to me and hubby....

My parents don't have any of those costs cuz the USAF retirement pays everything for them with tricare....so I never talked to an old geezer about it, and Matt's parents are long dead so never talked to them either and my sister is a retired teacher so she gets a retirement supplement to help pay medical.... And I never bothered looking in to it...big mistake on my part!

 

[JoeB131]

The premiums increased much faster under Obamacare, and with much higher deductibles as well. It is a much more costly program, which is why is requires so much money to be pumped into it to make it “affordable.”

It was a disaster from the start. Obama arranged so much of a pay-off to insurance companies that many times my co-pay was HIGHER than if I pretended not to have insurance at all, and just pay the uninsured rate.

That's not true, either. IN fact, insurance inflation declined from 2009 to 2015. Then they shot through the roof when your Fuhrer was in charge. (Perhaps because they knew what they could get away with)

Measuring total-premium inflation for health insurance in the Consumer Price Index : Monthly Labor Review : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

www.bls.gov

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I haven't heard that, but the whole Democratic Party should be CANCELED.

Cancel them both.

 

[JoeB131]

Subsidies: translation. Free. No poor immigrant is paying rent, food, transport, insurance and medical insurance at $600/mo you lying Stain.

well, she wasn't paying "Rent", she was living with her daughter. Transport. She doesn't drive. So really, her only expenses were food.

So the subsidy was 787 a month and she paid a pretty small amount.

However, let's be honest, insurance doesn't really mean much if you never visit the doctor.

What you don't get - because you just aren't very smart - is that ALL health care plans are "Socialist".

Either you are paying in more than you take out, unless you are sick, in which case you are paying in more than you take out.

Now, the obvious solution would be make us all buy insurance instead of getting it through our employers. But then the young wouldn't buy insurance, and the old wouldn't be able to afford it.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

If you are so right, why did the Republicans win the 2024 election? Your way was the right one when Joe was installed.

Because voters like you are ******* idiots.....that's why.

You're uninformed and you are stupid. Sad, but true.

 

[leftwinger]

subsidy was 787 a month

Got it. "Immigrant" given free ACA so they could show what a success it was. smh.

So you get off the boat, 1st thing you rush to get health care at $800/mo with no job, no money, no home? Pre-existing? Why not get it treated in China?

The whole thing stinks like Stain BS.

 

[Lisa558]

Except her projected income for the year was actually, kind of small, and that was her only income for the first nine months of that year.

The last three months, she was on my insurance

Lisa lives in mortal fear someone might be taken care of.

Of course her projected income for the year was small. That’s why other people were paying for her insurance.

But when she married you, her income for the year was much higher than projected. She wasn’t entitled to subsidy handouts, so she had to pay back what she was given.

But you said she was an immigrant. You’re telling me that she came to this country, and American taxpayers were giving her insurance?

 

[leftwinger]

Of course her projected income for the year was small. That’s why other people were paying for her insurance.

But when she married you, her income for the year was much higher than projected. She wasn’t entitled to subsidy handouts, so she had to pay back what she was given.

But you said she was an immigrant. You’re telling me that she came to this country, and American taxpayers were giving her insurance?

So she barely had a room. No food income or job. Her first idea is to run out and buy $800/mo Obammy care? What a crock.

 

[Lisa558]

So she barely had a room. No food income or job. Her first idea is to run out and buy $800/mo Obammy care? What a crock.

And she figured she’d be better off with a man with some decent money, no matter how bigoted, so she married him. I’ve seen marriages like that: a VERY unappealing guy with an uneducated poor Asian girl. He gets sex, and she gets a nice place to live.

 

[citygator]

Do any of you Democrat Socialists crying about “people’s premiums will double!!!” realize just how extensive the temporary expansion of Ocare subsidies have been?!

A wealthy family of five earning $500,000 get $8,000 in subsidies a year. And a very affluent family of five earning $350,000 year get $21,000 a year. Did you all know that?

And why? Because Obamacare drove costs up so much that health insurance costs a family of five $50,000 a year!
This shows what an abject failure Obamacare is. Obama created a system so unaffordable that everyone needs government welfare to afford it. And that was by intent.

With a debt of $37 trillion, it is past time to stop the trillion dollars it costs to prop up this new welfare program. The subsidies should revert to pre-COVID levels.

(page 6 shows how families earning $500,000 get subsidies.)

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Ways-and-Means-testimony-3.21-FINAL-Blase.pdf

Total Bullshit. The average policy would generate ZERO subsidies at those income levels. $50k plans are made up.

 

[Rogue AI]

You really think there's someone out there making 500K a year and applying for an ACA Plan?

You know, instead of using their employer's insurance.

Here's something I have a little firsthand knowledge of. Mrs. B131, before I married her, was getting an ACA plan, which required her to pay very little. However, when we got married, her income was added to my income. Even though she ended her program the minute we got married, and joined my work insurance, they decided to recalculate her eligibility at our combined income (Which was just a little over six figures, but not much.) and claw back all the subsidy money they had given her.

So this whole claim sounds like Republican Bullshit(TM).

Yeah, those who work for themselves, own businesses, or just have a good accountant that knows you can game the system.