Democrats have won..

Many of them might not be able to, or make so little money that they cant afford food without help.

There are people out there who really do need help. There are also people that abuse the system and they make the other group look bad.

Again, among these 42 million are children who depends on snap to survive.
What are the democrats doing about it?

Answer: Not much (from what I can tell).

This is the equivalent of Hamas using civilians as human shields.
 
What are the democrats doing about it?

Answer: Not much (from what I can tell).

This is the equivalent of Hamas using civilians as human shields.
The Democratic Party funds SNAP.

The diaper wearing maga party doesn’t have that empathy.
 
So, white rural America will be rioting.

I look forward to Burning Looting and Murdering in the Blue Hellholes when Schumer stops the EBT payments. How many flatscreens feeds a family of four?
 
It doesnt mean they are right, it means that they have proven they are willing to sacrifice Americans getting snap benefits because they are unwilling to allow a CR that funds the government at current levels because they HAVE to have Healthcare for illegals in any bill, even a bill that just says "hey, let's keep things going for now while we argue about the main bill"



I cant verify the reports of looting he claims but he makes some very salient points.

42 million Americans are about to lose access to food. What do you think that will cause? There WILL be looting, civil unrest on a mass scale, and when people are in this situation, they wont look at democrats, they will look at trump.

Among these 42 million Americans are those who really need assistance as well as those who are gaming the system, but in all of that are children who need food.

Democrats have proven they are willing to put Healthcare for illegals ahead of keeping the government open. They call them "lawfully present'" those who are here illegally but claiming asylum or refugee status, which anyone crossing the border can claim that, and dems fight to keep them here, so now they are trying to get Healthcare benefits for them in the new bill. This is why they are unwilling to sign any bill that doesnt include concessions for the Healthcare subsidies and benefits for those "lawfully present".

Democrats know this will ultimately come back on republicans because they can get out the messaging with all the attention they are getring through these protests. Which is bullshit, because I dare say, none of these dems actually care about the issues, its just a way to act out their anger against trump and take any advantage they can to make the right look bad.

For this reason, to avert people losing access to food, we must sign concessions but make damn sure the people know why all of this happened and what the dems did here.

I know many will push back on me, and thats fine, but as the guy in the video said, there are larger concerns here that need to be addressed, which is the potential for mass civil unrest/violence, looting which will lead to bare shelves, and a hit on local economies.

Obviously this is just my opinion, but im now going to don my flame retardant suit as I expected to get hit from both sides on this one! So...let me have it!

:flameth:

It's not exactly a well known secret that if you take away their freebies, they will compensate by theft instead of getting a real job, which only reinforces the point that they just want free shit without having to work. But, the solution isn't to just give them free shit so they don't steal.
 
It doesnt mean they are right, it means that they have proven they are willing to sacrifice Americans getting snap benefits because they are unwilling to allow a CR that funds the government at current levels because they HAVE to have Healthcare for illegals in any bill, even a bill that just says "hey, let's keep things going for now while we argue about the main bill"



I cant verify the reports of looting he claims but he makes some very salient points.

42 million Americans are about to lose access to food. What do you think that will cause? There WILL be looting, civil unrest on a mass scale, and when people are in this situation, they wont look at democrats, they will look at trump.

Among these 42 million Americans are those who really need assistance as well as those who are gaming the system, but in all of that are children who need food.

Democrats have proven they are willing to put Healthcare for illegals ahead of keeping the government open. They call them "lawfully present'" those who are here illegally but claiming asylum or refugee status, which anyone crossing the border can claim that, and dems fight to keep them here, so now they are trying to get Healthcare benefits for them in the new bill. This is why they are unwilling to sign any bill that doesnt include concessions for the Healthcare subsidies and benefits for those "lawfully present".

Democrats know this will ultimately come back on republicans because they can get out the messaging with all the attention they are getring through these protests. Which is bullshit, because I dare say, none of these dems actually care about the issues, its just a way to act out their anger against trump and take any advantage they can to make the right look bad.

For this reason, to avert people losing access to food, we must sign concessions but make damn sure the people know why all of this happened and what the dems did here.

I know many will push back on me, and thats fine, but as the guy in the video said, there are larger concerns here that need to be addressed, which is the potential for mass civil unrest/violence, looting which will lead to bare shelves, and a hit on local economies.

Obviously this is just my opinion, but im now going to don my flame retardant suit as I expected to get hit from both sides on this one! So...let me have it!

:flameth:

SNAP supplements grocery budgets. It doesn't provide all the food to anybody. So SNAP folks will need to forego the chips and bakery sweets and wine and beer and whatever and perhaps scale back to oatmeal, beans and rice and powdered milk for their primary diet plus the baby formula they need for awhile but losing SNAP should not cause anyone to starve.

The GOP should not give in on this one.
 
SNAP supplements grocery budgets. It doesn't provide all the food to anybody. So SNAP folks will need to forego the chips and bakery sweets and wine and beer and whatever and perhaps scale back to oatmeal, beans and rice and powdered milk for their primary diet plus the baby formula they need for awhile but losing SNAP should not cause anyone to starve.

The GOP should not give in on this one.

They shouldn't, but I'll honestly not be shocked if they do give in, they always cave.
 
They shouldn't, but I'll honestly not be shocked if they do give in, they always cave.
So will I. I have long deplored the gutlessness of the GOP who haven't had the courage or political will to do the right thing when they get strong pushback.

But I hope and pray this time it will be different with so many reformer/MAGA GOP in Congress now. I hope they'll stick to their guns. If they do, they probably won't have to go through this again.
 
its not hysteria, its reality. Dems just voted, for the 13th time, to block the clean CR, which means they aren't giving in. We had hoped they would just sign the CR to keep things rolling while they worked out a deal, but they are unwilling to do that, they are prepared to sacrifice food security for 42 million Americans so they can provide Healthcare for illegals.

We have to be the bigger man and not let that happen. That doesnt mean we have to roll over, what it means is, we can use it for 2026 and 2028 campaign ads. Show the world how dems prioritized illegals over citizens and the repubs had to be the adults and make sure hungry people got fed.

No, we do not! I do not wish to spend $1.5 trillion dollars for campaign ads. Neither should you. How much better will the campaign ads be when potentially thousands of people are arrested and locked up because the Democrats were obstinate? The DEMs hopes are already dying. This could be the final straw in breaking their backs!
 
SNAP supplements grocery budgets. It doesn't provide all the food to anybody. So SNAP folks will need to forego the chips and bakery sweets and wine and beer and whatever and perhaps scale back to oatmeal, beans and rice and powdered milk for their primary diet plus the baby formula they need for awhile but losing SNAP should not cause anyone to starve.

The GOP should not give in on this one.
That would be covered by WIC, not SNAP. Thanks!
 
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It doesnt mean they are right, it means that they have proven they are willing to sacrifice Americans getting snap benefits because they are unwilling to allow a CR that funds the government at current levels because they HAVE to have Healthcare for illegals in any bill, even a bill that just says "hey, let's keep things going for now while we argue about the main bill"



I cant verify the reports of looting he claims but he makes some very salient points.

42 million Americans are about to lose access to food. What do you think that will cause? There WILL be looting, civil unrest on a mass scale, and when people are in this situation, they wont look at democrats, they will look at trump.

Among these 42 million Americans are those who really need assistance as well as those who are gaming the system, but in all of that are children who need food.

Democrats have proven they are willing to put Healthcare for illegals ahead of keeping the government open. They call them "lawfully present'" those who are here illegally but claiming asylum or refugee status, which anyone crossing the border can claim that, and dems fight to keep them here, so now they are trying to get Healthcare benefits for them in the new bill. This is why they are unwilling to sign any bill that doesnt include concessions for the Healthcare subsidies and benefits for those "lawfully present".

Democrats know this will ultimately come back on republicans because they can get out the messaging with all the attention they are getring through these protests. Which is bullshit, because I dare say, none of these dems actually care about the issues, its just a way to act out their anger against trump and take any advantage they can to make the right look bad.

For this reason, to avert people losing access to food, we must sign concessions but make damn sure the people know why all of this happened and what the dems did here.

I know many will push back on me, and thats fine, but as the guy in the video said, there are larger concerns here that need to be addressed, which is the potential for mass civil unrest/violence, looting which will lead to bare shelves, and a hit on local economies.

Obviously this is just my opinion, but im now going to don my flame retardant suit as I expected to get hit from both sides on this one! So...let me have it!

:flameth:

republicans need to take the nuclear option and open the gov ..and when they do it they can win the native by saying they had no choice because Dems were willing to use hunger as a political weapon !
 
republicans need to take the nuclear option and open the gov ..and when they do it they can win the native by saying they had no choice because Dems were willing to use hunger as a political weapon !

They should, but they won't. They're enemy #2, behind the dimocrats.
 
They should, but they won't. They're enemy #2, behind the dimocrats.
don't count them out yet ! and I think it would be a huge political win if Republicans use the nuclear option and reopen the gov ! can you imagine the campaign adds for the midterms ! we opened the gov to keep people from going hungry because Dems shut it down to cause people to go hungry !
 
don't count them out yet ! and I think it would be a huge political win if Republicans use the nuclear option and reopen the gov ! can you imagine the campaign adds for the midterms ! we opened the gov to keep people from going hungry because Dems shut it down to cause people to go hungry !
Hell yeah!

We opened the government to cut the ACA subsidies (jack rates) and Medicaid for billionaires enjoy!

Has the External Revenue Service been started yet?
 

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