Democrats have an enormous dilemma if Kamala Harris loses

Democrats have an enormous dilemma if Kamala Harris loses

Kamala Harris outdid Trump with fundraising and could become America's first female president

2 Nov 2023 ~~ By Mark Halperin

Now it’s the final stretch, the final sprint. The race currently seems so tight, it is impossible to predict with confidence who will win, or what ultimately will be the deciding factors for the voters. Yet in a few short days, we will likely know the answer. Then Veterans Day, Thanksgiving, Hanukkah , Christmas, New Year’s, and at last, Inauguration Day. On January 20, 2025, the next POTUS will take office. Former President Donald Trump may return to the West Wing, or we may greet President Kamala Harris as Number 47.
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If Harris wins, there would be celebration in the blue streets, excitement about the historic first female American president, and hope that Harris would bring to the Oval Office a refreshing mix of energy, leadership, unity and smart new ideas.
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If Harris loses the election and Trump returns to the White House, there would be a seismic, convulsive uproar of angst and censure within the Democratic Party that would resonate from coast to coast. There would be much to blame, and many to blame, and the accusations would be flung far and wide, with fury and fervor.

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If Harris loses, Democrats in Washington and around the country would have an enormous task: they would have to find a way to salvage the party and come to terms with its fractured identity and significant disillusionment from its base, all while dealing with fallout from the election, preparing for political combat against Donald Trump, and managing a collective mental health crisis from its disillusioned cohorts.
And if Harris loses, this would be the Democrats’ biggest problem: there would be zero consensus in the party about what went wrong – and thus zero consensus about what the proper solutions should be, and, therefore, zero consensus about which leaders should be empowered to bring the party back to power.
All we do know is that, under those circumstances, it almost certainly won’t be Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.

Commentary:
Harris is manifestly unpopular and, most importantly, she never won a single vote. She was parachuted in to the top of the ticket with a hundred days left in the race.
There are A LOT of Democrat politicians who would be happy to see her lose and end her political career knowing that 2028 will be a clean slate for both parties.
This adds to my optimism for Trump. Democrats know that he's not going to be Hitler. If anything, he'll be a lame duck. Maybe JD Vance will be the frontrunner in 2028. Who knows? One thing we do know is that the field will be full in 2028 with a dozen strong Republicans running under the MAGA banner.
And the Democrats' field will be full as well. If Harris loses (and she should), it'll be a golden opportunity for the Dems to ditch the psychotic woke left and return to being a working-class blue collar party, maybe run some white male governors in the Bill Clinton mold.
Point is, there's A LOT of Dems who aren't going to pull out the stops for Harris hoping that she'll lose, disappear, and open up the field.
I wonder, did Paul Ryan edit thus Op-Ed or was he the ghost writer for Halperin?
Democrats will uphold the rule of law

while trying every trick in the book to get rid of Trump using every means possible.
 
That just tells me that he has no idealogical moorings. (Not that he ever said those things about abortion or immigrants.). Why would you support a hypocrite with no principles?
Trump has actually delivered more conservative directives than any other conservative before him, like overturning Roe.

That is just an indication of how many knives are in the backs of conservatives and why many disdain the entire GOP.

Sad.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.
 
Trump has actually delivered more conservative directives than any other conservative before him, like overturning Roe.

That is just an indication of how many knives are in the backs of conservatives and why many disdain the entire GOP.

Sad.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Overturning Roe will turn out to be the dumbest thing the GOP has ever done.
 
She isn't going to.lose. What happens after should be the concern, becase between China controlling the U.N even though they spend .peanuts compared to the U.S, Iran, Russia and N.Korean proxies creating conflicts, the future challenges are very real.
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Then we should all prepare for World War Three. China, No. Korea, Iran and other belligerents aligning themselves with Russia.
It's quite obvious that the U.N. is no longer a neutral area of discussion.
 

Democrats have an enormous dilemma if Kamala Harris loses​

Nah, they'll just dye their hair a deeper shade of purple and work to figure out how to better rig the results in more states.
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They'll bring back the Screaming woman,,,,
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Democrats have an enormous dilemma if Kamala Harris loses

Kamala Harris outdid Trump with fundraising and could become America's first female president

2 Nov 2023 ~~ By Mark Halperin

Now it’s the final stretch, the final sprint. The race currently seems so tight, it is impossible to predict with confidence who will win, or what ultimately will be the deciding factors for the voters. Yet in a few short days, we will likely know the answer. Then Veterans Day, Thanksgiving, Hanukkah , Christmas, New Year’s, and at last, Inauguration Day. On January 20, 2025, the next POTUS will take office. Former President Donald Trump may return to the West Wing, or we may greet President Kamala Harris as Number 47.
~Snip~
If Harris wins, there would be celebration in the blue streets, excitement about the historic first female American president, and hope that Harris would bring to the Oval Office a refreshing mix of energy, leadership, unity and smart new ideas.
~Snip~
If Harris loses the election and Trump returns to the White House, there would be a seismic, convulsive uproar of angst and censure within the Democratic Party that would resonate from coast to coast. There would be much to blame, and many to blame, and the accusations would be flung far and wide, with fury and fervor.

~Snip~
If Harris loses, Democrats in Washington and around the country would have an enormous task: they would have to find a way to salvage the party and come to terms with its fractured identity and significant disillusionment from its base, all while dealing with fallout from the election, preparing for political combat against Donald Trump, and managing a collective mental health crisis from its disillusioned cohorts.
And if Harris loses, this would be the Democrats’ biggest problem: there would be zero consensus in the party about what went wrong – and thus zero consensus about what the proper solutions should be, and, therefore, zero consensus about which leaders should be empowered to bring the party back to power.
All we do know is that, under those circumstances, it almost certainly won’t be Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.

Commentary:
Harris is manifestly unpopular and, most importantly, she never won a single vote. She was parachuted in to the top of the ticket with a hundred days left in the race.
There are A LOT of Democrat politicians who would be happy to see her lose and end her political career knowing that 2028 will be a clean slate for both parties.
This adds to my optimism for Trump. Democrats know that he's not going to be Hitler. If anything, he'll be a lame duck. Maybe JD Vance will be the frontrunner in 2028. Who knows? One thing we do know is that the field will be full in 2028 with a dozen strong Republicans running under the MAGA banner.
And the Democrats' field will be full as well. If Harris loses (and she should), it'll be a golden opportunity for the Dems to ditch the psychotic woke left and return to being a working-class blue collar party, maybe run some white male governors in the Bill Clinton mold.
Point is, there's A LOT of Dems who aren't going to pull out the stops for Harris hoping that she'll lose, disappear, and open up the field.
I wonder, did Paul Ryan edit thus Op-Ed or was he the ghost writer for Halperin?
The Democratic Party will now tear itself apart. How can a party hold both Ilhan Omar and Chuck Schumer?!
 
The Democratic Party will now tear itself apart. How can a party hold both Ilhan Omar and Chuck Schumer?!
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Watch and see the back stabbing and blaming everyome else but themselves for this political loss.
 
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Watch and see the back stabbing and blaming everyome else but themselves for this political loss.

Not really.

There was nothing like that after 2016, won't happen this time.

Especially now that it is becoming clearer that this was more an election won through apathy. Americans didn't vote for Fascism, they just didn't care.
 
Not really.

There was nothing like that after 2016, won't happen this time.

Especially now that it is becoming clearer that this was more an election won through apathy. Americans didn't vote for Fascism, they just didn't care.

Oh, they are blaming each other.

Some are even openly whining about putting up an empty suit.
 
No they don't. Young people largely support Democrats, and young people are the future. Nevermind the amount of immigrants coming in who will (or are) voting blue. The Democrats will barely have to campaign at all next time around. Trump might win this election. Maybe. But like I tell people, he's carrying the Republican party. Once he can't run anymore, the Republicans are toast. Without him, the Republican Party leadership reverts to a bunch of slow-motion Democrats whose only policies are bombing brown people, and corporate welfare while paying lip service to, "traditional values" that they neither believe in nor practice. His win gives those of you still in the US four extra years to either stockpile canned food, ammo, meds, and other goods, or begin organizing a very very very long vacation somewhere outside the country. Once his second term is done, or if he loses, the US is basically a one-party country.
As Winston Churchill said “ if you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart; if you are not a conservative as you get older, you have no brain.” Young people tend to be liberal because they have no life experience and have been cared for all their lives.
 
Not really.

There was nothing like that after 2016, won't happen this time.

Especially now that it is becoming clearer that this was more an election won through apathy. Americans didn't vote for Fascism, they just didn't care.
Americans cared quite a lot. Traditional democrats cared so much that they couldn’t stomach voting for a useless pair of radicals like Harris and Walz so they stayed home by the millions. The uncommitted middle that actually decide elections looked at the conduct of the democratic administration and its abrogation of the law that they voted for Trump. This election was a choice between the lesser of evils and Harris/Walz were clearly the greater evil. Before I die I want one more chance to vote for someone who really deserves to be president of this great nation.
 
As Winston Churchill said “ if you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart; if you are not a conservative as you get older, you have no brain.” Young people tend to be liberal because they have no life experience and have been cared for all their lives.
The UK has become significantly more left wing, and authoritarian since Churchill was around.
 
Oh, they are blaming each other.

Some are even openly whining about putting up an empty suit.

Some? Who would that be? Be specific!

I don't see the problem being Kamala in and of herself. She had to organize a complete campaign in three months and she made Trump work for it.

I do question if this country is too misogynistic to elect a woman president. I used to think Hillary's defeat was largely because of her personality and baggage, but now I'm not so sure.
 

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