Democratic Socialism = manufactured nonsense.

[LoneLaugher]

Is that a yes or a no?
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None that are acceptable

Is that a yes or a no?
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Yes, national socialism.

I think there's obviously plenty of space in between the two. The size, cost and scope of government exist on a spectrum.
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Yes, national socialism is somewhere there between the two. Isn't that interesting? We must have it immediately!

America is the land of the free, that means maximum freedom.

I don't know how to think in such binary terms.
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Simple. Everything the government does the private sector can do better and more efficiently

You favor a privatization of the US military?

 

[peach174]

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government.

It is exactly what it says it is. Totalitarian far-left ideology, in which private property is all but abolished. 100% anti-American, against every founding principle of the nation.

Sanders is more Soviet than an American. Somehow it did not register with him that socialism failed in Russia, just as it failed everywhere else where he praised it.

He honeymooned in Moscow, he has always liked communist big gov. ideology.

 

[Norman]

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government.

It is exactly what it says it is. Totalitarian far-left ideology, in which private property is all but abolished. 100% anti-American, against every founding principle of the nation.

Sanders is more Soviet than an American. Somehow it did not register with him that socialism failed in Russia, just as it failed everywhere else where he praised it.

He honeymooned in Moscow, he has always liked communist big gov. ideology.

First job at 40 may have something to do with it.

This guy is a loser, which explains his socialism. Can't even keep the microphone away from his far left socialist supporters.



Imagine if hijacking the mic was attempted at a Trump rally, they would net the Acosta treatment.

 

[whitehall]

The push toward socialism (communism) is nothing new in the U.S.. The problem is that we have an entire generation taught by left wing Marxist teachers to disrespect not only the Flag but America in general. Sanders is a die hard communist who was kicked out of a commune as a kid for spouting inane Marxist rhetoric. He spent his honeymoon in Russia during the coldest part of the Cold War. He is a perfect faux democrat in a perfect era.

 

[imawhosure]

The phrase is nothing more than a ploy to fool STUPID AMERICANS into accepting pure socialism.
Apparently there are a LOT of Stupid Americans as Bernie is very popular.

Is there any space between pure capitalism and pure socialism?
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Is that a yes or a no?
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None that are acceptable

The phrase is nothing more than a ploy to fool STUPID AMERICANS into accepting pure socialism.
Apparently there are a LOT of Stupid Americans as Bernie is very popular.

Is there any space between pure capitalism and pure socialism?
.

Is that a yes or a no?
.

Yes, national socialism.

I think there's obviously plenty of space in between the two. The size, cost and scope of government exist on a spectrum.
.

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?

Best of luck...

Simple. Everything the government does the private sector can do better and more efficiently

Unless they can't profit off of it.

All the non profit PRIVATE organizations would beg to differ

And the track record of privatizing government functions says differently.

I have posted this 3 damn times, and even the supposed Democratic moderates won't touch it!

WHAT is Democratic SOCIALISM that they say the Nordic countries use?

Lets see what they, and we, think of this, and watch how fast the MODERATES run from it as unfair, terrible, and we really didn't mean that-------------->

 

[Disir]

Ok. Well, that's it for this morning. I got five that says Grampa left to do some work. Afterwards he is going to a bar and might listen to some live music. He will come back hammered late tonight, troll his own threads and start new ones with whatever music mood he is into.

 

[Disir]

Is there any space between pure capitalism and pure socialism?
.

Is that a yes or a no?
.

None that are acceptable

Is there any space between pure capitalism and pure socialism?
.

Is that a yes or a no?
.

Yes, national socialism.

I think there's obviously plenty of space in between the two. The size, cost and scope of government exist on a spectrum.
.

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?

Best of luck...

Simple. Everything the government does the private sector can do better and more efficiently

Unless they can't profit off of it.

All the non profit PRIVATE organizations would beg to differ

And the track record of privatizing government functions says differently.

I have posted this 3 damn times, and even the supposed Democratic moderates won't touch it!

WHAT is Democratic SOCIALISM that they say the Nordic countries use?

Lets see what they, and we, think of this, and watch how fast the MODERATES run from it as unfair, terrible, and we really didn't mean that-------------->

Stossel is an idiot.

 

[dblack]

The phrase is nothing more than a ploy to fool STUPID AMERICANS into accepting pure socialism.

Apparently there are a LOT of Stupid Americans as Bernie is very popular.

They're equivocating. There's nothing about democratic socialism that makes it somehow less "pure" than party-rule socialism. Either can produce totalitarian government, and both tend to. The use of the term is a result of liberals' worship of democracy as a goal - as the definition of good government rather than a tool to achieve good government.

 

[Mac1958]

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?
Best of luck...

Um, when did I say that?

Why do you guys constantly make stuff up about my opinions and positions?

Do you even KNOW you're doing it?
.

 

[Norman]

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?
Best of luck...

Um, when did I say that?

Why do you guys constantly make stuff up about my opinions and positions?

Do you even KNOW you're doing it?
.

What? Your last post was all about nuance and how things are on a continuum.

Perhaps you should express your opinion more clearly. The obvious interpretation is that you think Sanders is on the continuum and not in the far left corner of it. In specific, that he is not a socialist.

He has said that he is a socialist, openly. Whether you choose to believe it or not is irrelevant. I believe it 100%, everything in his history points to it.

 

[imawhosure]

Is that a yes or a no?
.

None that are acceptable

Is that a yes or a no?
.

Yes, national socialism.

I think there's obviously plenty of space in between the two. The size, cost and scope of government exist on a spectrum.
.

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?

Best of luck...

Simple. Everything the government does the private sector can do better and more efficiently

Unless they can't profit off of it.

All the non profit PRIVATE organizations would beg to differ

And the track record of privatizing government functions says differently.

I have posted this 3 damn times, and even the supposed Democratic moderates won't touch it!

WHAT is Democratic SOCIALISM that they say the Nordic countries use?

Lets see what they, and we, think of this, and watch how fast the MODERATES run from it as unfair, terrible, and we really didn't mean that-------------->

Stossel is an idiot.

lol, of course he is, and so is the person who made the expose that lived there, because it doesn't fit your narrative.

If the man who created the expose is wrong, show us where he is wrong!

You are a Democratic SOCIALIST who touts the Nordic system, correct! So show us a different view on how they come up with their cash, who they really tax, and how it all works.

I showed you my version. Now give us YOURS with some video proof!

 

[Mac1958]

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?
Best of luck...

Um, when did I say that?

Why do you guys constantly make stuff up about my opinions and positions?

Do you even KNOW you're doing it?
.

What? Your last post was all about nuance and how things are on a continuum.

Perhaps you should express your opinion more clearly. The obvious interpretation is that you think Sanders is on the continuum and not in the far left corner of it. In specific, that he is not a socialist.

He has said that he is a socialist, openly. Whether you choose to believe it or not is irrelevant. I believe it 100%, everything in his history points to it.

He's about a left wing as I can think of. Not a centrist, as you claimed I think.

If you want to know what I actually, you could just ask. We used to do that in this country, and not just spout off ignorant assumptions.
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[Norman]

Is that a yes or a no?
.

None that are acceptable

Is that a yes or a no?
.

Yes, national socialism.

I think there's obviously plenty of space in between the two. The size, cost and scope of government exist on a spectrum.
.

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?

Best of luck...

Unless they can't profit off of it.

All the non profit PRIVATE organizations would beg to differ

And the track record of privatizing government functions says differently.

I have posted this 3 damn times, and even the supposed Democratic moderates won't touch it!

WHAT is Democratic SOCIALISM that they say the Nordic countries use?

Lets see what they, and we, think of this, and watch how fast the MODERATES run from it as unfair, terrible, and we really didn't mean that-------------->

Stossel is an idiot.

lol, of course he is, and so is the person who made the expose that lived there, because it doesn't fit your narrative.

If the man who created the expose is wrong, show us where he is wrong!

You are a Democratic SOCIALIST who touts the Nordic system, correct! So show us a different view on how they come up with their cash, who they really tax, and how it all works.

I showed you my version. Now give us YOURS with some video proof!

Erm... The Nordic system isn't socialist. Nor is it American.

It's comical to watch these idiots try to willingly conflate social democrats with democratic socialists. One of them is a socialist, the other is not. Note that the biggest parties in the Nordic countries are currently the nationalist aka. Trump parties.

They want nothing to do with the rotten ideology. You really think the nations neighboring the disasters of Soviet Union want socialism? That is preposterous.

 

[Disir]

Is that a yes or a no?
.

None that are acceptable

Is that a yes or a no?
.

Yes, national socialism.

I think there's obviously plenty of space in between the two. The size, cost and scope of government exist on a spectrum.
.

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?

Best of luck...

Unless they can't profit off of it.

All the non profit PRIVATE organizations would beg to differ

And the track record of privatizing government functions says differently.

I have posted this 3 damn times, and even the supposed Democratic moderates won't touch it!

WHAT is Democratic SOCIALISM that they say the Nordic countries use?

Lets see what they, and we, think of this, and watch how fast the MODERATES run from it as unfair, terrible, and we really didn't mean that-------------->

Stossel is an idiot.

lol, of course he is, and so is the person who made the expose that lived there, because it doesn't fit your narrative.

If the man who created the expose is wrong, show us where he is wrong!

You are a Democratic SOCIALIST who touts the Nordic system, correct! So show us a different view on how they come up with their cash, who they really tax, and how it all works.

I showed you my version. Now give us YOURS with some video proof!

Uh.....Stossel has been an idiot for a long time. You don't know what my narrative is. Hell, you can't manage to express your own. I'm not watching the video.

 

[imawhosure]

Is that a yes or a no?
.

None that are acceptable

Is that a yes or a no?
.

Yes, national socialism.

I think there's obviously plenty of space in between the two. The size, cost and scope of government exist on a spectrum.
.

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?

Best of luck...

Unless they can't profit off of it.

All the non profit PRIVATE organizations would beg to differ

And the track record of privatizing government functions says differently.

I have posted this 3 damn times, and even the supposed Democratic moderates won't touch it!

WHAT is Democratic SOCIALISM that they say the Nordic countries use?

Lets see what they, and we, think of this, and watch how fast the MODERATES run from it as unfair, terrible, and we really didn't mean that-------------->

Stossel is an idiot.

lol, of course he is, and so is the person who made the expose that lived there, because it doesn't fit your narrative.

If the man who created the expose is wrong, show us where he is wrong!

You are a Democratic SOCIALIST who touts the Nordic system, correct! So show us a different view on how they come up with their cash, who they really tax, and how it all works.

I showed you my version. Now give us YOURS with some video proof!

REMEMBER there stud muffin, we are NOT arguing if it is wonderful or not, we will for the sake of argument agree. What we want is how they ACQUIRE the cash to pay for it, and WHO/WHOM actually are the ones most highly taxed-)

And once you discover the POORER people are the ones getting hosed, if you want to PROMOTE this, from here forward you must DEMAND poorer people pay more, waaaaaaaaay more; because if you don't, YOU are a phony-e-baloney...…...and so is anyone else who doesn't admit that truth...…...such as BERNARD-)

Nordic supposed Democratic SOCIALISM? Explain it EXACTLY to all the Democratic constituency groups, you moderate clowns!

 

[Disir]

None that are acceptable

Yes, national socialism.

I think there's obviously plenty of space in between the two. The size, cost and scope of government exist on a spectrum.
.

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?

Best of luck...

All the non profit PRIVATE organizations would beg to differ

And the track record of privatizing government functions says differently.

I have posted this 3 damn times, and even the supposed Democratic moderates won't touch it!

WHAT is Democratic SOCIALISM that they say the Nordic countries use?

Lets see what they, and we, think of this, and watch how fast the MODERATES run from it as unfair, terrible, and we really didn't mean that-------------->

Stossel is an idiot.

lol, of course he is, and so is the person who made the expose that lived there, because it doesn't fit your narrative.

If the man who created the expose is wrong, show us where he is wrong!

You are a Democratic SOCIALIST who touts the Nordic system, correct! So show us a different view on how they come up with their cash, who they really tax, and how it all works.

I showed you my version. Now give us YOURS with some video proof!

REMEMBER there stud muffin, we are NOT arguing if it is wonderful or not, we will for the sake of argument agree. What we want is how they ACQUIRE the cash to pay for it, and WHO/WHOM actually are the ones most highly taxed-)

I know how it works there, sweetie.

 

[imawhosure]

I think there's obviously plenty of space in between the two. The size, cost and scope of government exist on a spectrum.
.

How long can Mac keep pretending that Sanders is a centrist and not a far left anti-American radical?

Best of luck...

And the track record of privatizing government functions says differently.

I have posted this 3 damn times, and even the supposed Democratic moderates won't touch it!

WHAT is Democratic SOCIALISM that they say the Nordic countries use?

Lets see what they, and we, think of this, and watch how fast the MODERATES run from it as unfair, terrible, and we really didn't mean that-------------->

Stossel is an idiot.

lol, of course he is, and so is the person who made the expose that lived there, because it doesn't fit your narrative.

If the man who created the expose is wrong, show us where he is wrong!

You are a Democratic SOCIALIST who touts the Nordic system, correct! So show us a different view on how they come up with their cash, who they really tax, and how it all works.

I showed you my version. Now give us YOURS with some video proof!

REMEMBER there stud muffin, we are NOT arguing if it is wonderful or not, we will for the sake of argument agree. What we want is how they ACQUIRE the cash to pay for it, and WHO/WHOM actually are the ones most highly taxed-)

I know how it works there, sweetie.

LOL, sure you do! YOU no lika da truth, do you! You know what you guys got? Nada, nothing, forget about it. You and your SOCIALIST supposed paradise, lol.

Take a hike, wet behind the ears phony-e-baloney.

You want a DEMOCRAT? Then today, by which one you choose, it is only a measure of how much SOCIALISM you want!

So who/whom is YOUR Democratic hero? Tell all of us HOW MUCH SOCIALISM you want-)

 

[dblack]

What is Democratic Socialism? - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically ...

Most modern liberals will take the above statement for granted - they see nothing controversial about it. But it's the polar opposite of my view of proper government. Government isn't there to run society, nor the economy. The claim that it should run both, is a claim that government should be totalitarian. If government runs "both the economy and society", what else is there?

But it's all good, because democracy.

 

[Disir]

I have posted this 3 damn times, and even the supposed Democratic moderates won't touch it!

WHAT is Democratic SOCIALISM that they say the Nordic countries use?

Lets see what they, and we, think of this, and watch how fast the MODERATES run from it as unfair, terrible, and we really didn't mean that-------------->

Stossel is an idiot.

lol, of course he is, and so is the person who made the expose that lived there, because it doesn't fit your narrative.

If the man who created the expose is wrong, show us where he is wrong!

You are a Democratic SOCIALIST who touts the Nordic system, correct! So show us a different view on how they come up with their cash, who they really tax, and how it all works.

I showed you my version. Now give us YOURS with some video proof!

REMEMBER there stud muffin, we are NOT arguing if it is wonderful or not, we will for the sake of argument agree. What we want is how they ACQUIRE the cash to pay for it, and WHO/WHOM actually are the ones most highly taxed-)

I know how it works there, sweetie.

LOL, sure you do! YOU no lika da truth, do you! You know what you guys got? Nada, nothing, forget about it. You and your SOCIALIST supposed paradise, lol.

Take a hike, wet behind the ears phony-e-baloney.

You want a DEMOCRAT? Then today, by which one you choose, it is only a measure of how much SOCIALISM you want!

So who/whom is YOUR Democratic hero? Tell all of us HOW MUCH SOCIALISM you want-)

I'm not a Democrat you loon. This is how I know you don't know my narrative.

 

[Sunni Man]