Democrat Want's to Replace Police With Unarmed Teams. OMFG! Laughable

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".
The goal is to resolve things without having to arrest someone.
If the mediator you send out just aggravates the situation, how is that going to help?

And yes, if you don't have the legal power to arrest them, or the physical ability to hand out a beating, then you absolutely are in a position of weakness..... and everyone but you knows it.


You are just sending out ready-made victims, and you're not helping anyone.

If the mediator solves the issue; it helps
If a mediator can help solve the issue, then the situation was never in any danger of getting violent in the first place.

You really don't know even the most basic things about this sort of stuff, do you?
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.
It will never happen, it's going to blow up in your faces like normal.


I like cops they do there jobs well
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

I dont expect you to understand but here goes:

Nobody knows who, how many and what is behind the thousands of doors with the loud music.

So roll out the SWAT team for every call then...right?

Please post one scenario ever where a swat team was sent to a call about loud music. Your hyperbole is foolish.
 
Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots! :lmao:

Do you really need to send two armed officers out to a house that is playing it's music too loud or to break up a domestic argument?

Dummies like you will think so.
How does anyone know before they get there if the the people playing the loud music are high on crack and armed?
 
to break up a domestic argument?

You'd be surprised how many domestics involve weapons. Especially now with people stuck inside with each other all day.
Percentage wise--how many do?

Enough... things can go south pretty quickly if drugs and or alcohol are involved.

Please don't post any real life police scenarios. CC wants us to believe the only scenario is loud music.

No.

What I'm saying is that if you have a call about a domestic dispute, public disturbance, criminal trespassing, or some class C/B misdemeanor, it may be able to be passed off to someone who isn't a police officer--freeing up the officers to respond more quickly to crimes where there is actual life or property loss or damage.
Sounds good on paper, fails in the real.
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes
I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.
Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..

Says the moron who hasn't had a cognizant thought in years.

Way to use those counseling skills. You'll have no problem dealing with that crack head holding his family in the house with a shotgun.
Nobody ever suggested sending out a counselor to that sort of situation. Bear has gone from being silly to being stupid.
 
Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots! :lmao:

Do you really need to send two armed officers out to a house that is playing it's music too loud or to break up a domestic argument?

Dummies like you will think so.
in your racist utopia a white person will not be allowed to call 911 if the other party is black. There are initiatives concerning this at least in Virginia. Calling 911 would be a hate crime in this instance. Of course white people are no longer allowed to defend themselves if their attacker is black. we have seen this played out on the national level.
domestic disputes often involve LEOs being shot, but that is Ok since the LEO is a fascist white person. Fuck them, they are racists merely for having the wrong color skin.

I stopped reading at "utopia".
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.
Ya mean like this from today ...or rather yesterday



The Sheboygan County, Wisconsin district attorney has determined the use of deadly force was reasonable and no charges will be filed in the officer-involved death of Kevan Ruffin. At 5:50 AM, the Sheboygan County Dispatch Center received a 911 call reporting a disturbance involving weapons near 15th Street and Illinois Avenue.

You can search all the time for this bullshit




A mediator...especially one with an extensive social justice background in diversity and women's studies would of helped that disturbed man

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Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots! :lmao:

Do you really need to send two armed officers out to a house that is playing it's music too loud or to break up a domestic argument?

Dummies like you will think so.
How does anyone know before they get there if the the people playing the loud music are high on crack and armed?

So you want to send in mall cops into war zones?

Look at the news, they are trying to burn cops alive in Portland
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work
 
Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots! :lmao:

Do you really need to send two armed officers out to a house that is playing it's music too loud or to break up a domestic argument?

Dummies like you will think so.
in your racist utopia a white person will not be allowed to call 911 if the other party is black. There are initiatives concerning this at least in Virginia. Calling 911 would be a hate crime in this instance. Of course white people are no longer allowed to defend themselves if their attacker is black. we have seen this played out on the national level.
domestic disputes often involve LEOs being shot, but that is Ok since the LEO is a fascist white person. Fuck them, they are racists merely for having the wrong color skin.

I stopped reading at "utopia".
So you can read...just not process the information.
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes
I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.
Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..

Says the moron who hasn't had a cognizant thought in years.

Way to use those counseling skills. You'll have no problem dealing with that crack head holding his family in the house with a shotgun.
Nobody ever suggested sending out a counselor to that sort of situation. Bear has gone from being silly to being stupid.

Ureka CC send her


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Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes
I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.
Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..

Says the moron who hasn't had a cognizant thought in years.

Way to use those counseling skills. You'll have no problem dealing with that crack head holding his family in the house with a shotgun.
Nobody ever suggested sending out a counselor to that sort of situation. Bear has gone from being silly to being stupid.

You do understand situations can and do escalate in a hurry right?
 
Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots! :lmao:

Do you really need to send two armed officers out to a house that is playing it's music too loud or to break up a domestic argument?

Dummies like you will think so.
in your racist utopia a white person will not be allowed to call 911 if the other party is black. There are initiatives concerning this at least in Virginia. Calling 911 would be a hate crime in this instance. Of course white people are no longer allowed to defend themselves if their attacker is black. we have seen this played out on the national level.
domestic disputes often involve LEOs being shot, but that is Ok since the LEO is a fascist white person. Fuck them, they are racists merely for having the wrong color skin.

I stopped reading at "utopia".
I'm surprised you can read much less have logical thought process which you have demonstrated you do not possess
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

I dont expect you to understand but here goes:

Nobody knows who, how many and what is behind the thousands of doors with the loud music.

So roll out the SWAT team for every call then...right?
No, you send friendly, reasonable, respectful guys who are clearly able to handle themselves and they manage the situation with a little communication.

Why are you trying to say that just because sending unarmed, unprepared, ill-equipped social workers and mediators into potentially violent situations is a bad idea, that means we should roll out SWAT teams and drone strikes and all this other extreme nonsense?

Why do you do this?
Do you think it makes your argument sound less stupid?

Because it doesn't, it just makes me think that you are not discussing this in good faith, and that you're ignorant as hell.

You should probably either grow up, or you should stay out of grown up conversations...… you're not up to it.
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes
I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.
Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..

Says the moron who hasn't had a cognizant thought in years.

Way to use those counseling skills. You'll have no problem dealing with that crack head holding his family in the house with a shotgun.
Nobody ever suggested sending out a counselor to that sort of situation. Bear has gone from being silly to being stupid.
So unarmed teams are supposed to go in with cookies and milk for violent criminal gang's and they will stop raping and commiting violent crimes?
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work
I would imagine that you would require that laws be selectively enforced based on skin color and political ideology
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

I dont expect you to understand but here goes:

Nobody knows who, how many and what is behind the thousands of doors with the loud music.

So roll out the SWAT team for every call then...right?
No, you send friendly, reasonable, respectful guys who are clearly able to handle themselves and they manage the situation with a little communication.

Why are you trying to say that just because sending unarmed, unprepared, ill-equipped social workers and mediators into potentially violent situations is a bad idea, that means we should roll out SWAT teams and drone strikes and all this other extreme nonsense?

Why do you do this?
Do you think it makes your argument sound less stupid?

Because it doesn't, it just makes me think that you are not discussing this in good faith, and that you're ignorant as hell.

You should probably either grow up, or you should stay out of grown up conversations...… you're not up to it.
Meet fire with fire!
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work
It cost money and we want to see results?

We don't want to have to defend a social worker in our streets
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

There is always the option of making the job a four year degree.
 

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