Democrat Want's to Replace Police With Unarmed Teams. OMFG! Laughable

[Wyatt earp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

I would imagine that you would require that laws be selectively enforced based on skin color and political ideology

Good point

 

[Taz]

Oregon Dem wants to replace cops using unarmed teams funded via Medicaid hike: report

An Oregon Democrat is seeking a hike in Medicaid funding to help finance unarmed response teams that would replace police officers in some instances, according to a report.

www.foxnews.com

Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots!

Do you really need to send two armed officers out to a house that is playing it's music too loud or to break up a domestic argument?

Dummies like you will think so.

How does anyone know before they get there if the the people playing the loud music are high on crack and armed?

So you want to send in mall cops into war zones?

Look at the news, they are trying to burn cops alive in Portland

Not what I'm saying, I'm against replacing cops.

 

[squeeze berry]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

I dont expect you to understand but here goes:

Nobody knows who, how many and what is behind the thousands of doors with the loud music.

So roll out the SWAT team for every call then...right?

No, you send friendly, reasonable, respectful guys who are clearly able to handle themselves and they manage the situation with a little communication.

Why are you trying to say that just because sending unarmed, unprepared, ill-equipped social workers and mediators into potentially violent situations is a bad idea, that means we should roll out SWAT teams and drone strikes and all this other extreme nonsense?

Why do you do this?
Do you think it makes your argument sound less stupid?

Because it doesn't, it just makes me think that you are not discussing this in good faith, and that you're ignorant as hell.

You should probably either grow up, or you should stay out of grown up conversations...… you're not up to it.

Meet fire with fire!

that is an option
no police, bring on the boogaloo

 

[Bush92]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

The most dangerous situation for police is domestic dispute, in such case they have to be a social worker. Enforcement of the law against violent individuals means that have to use force.

 

[Taz]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes

I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.

Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..

Says the moron who hasn't had a cognizant thought in years.

Way to use those counseling skills. You'll have no problem dealing with that crack head holding his family in the house with a shotgun.

Nobody ever suggested sending out a counselor to that sort of situation. Bear has gone from being silly to being stupid.

So unarmed teams are supposed to go in with cookies and milk for violent criminal gang's and they will stop raping and commiting violent crimes?

Cookies and crack.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

There is always the option of making the job a four year degree.

Once again we need to carry firearms to protect the unarmed social worker?

No thanks just call a cop

 

[miketx]

Oregon Dem wants to replace cops using unarmed teams funded via Medicaid hike: report

An Oregon Democrat is seeking a hike in Medicaid funding to help finance unarmed response teams that would replace police officers in some instances, according to a report.

www.foxnews.com

Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots!

Do you really need to send two armed officers out to a house that is playing it's music too loud or to break up a domestic argument?

Dummies like you will think so.

If you vermin are good at anything it's making stupid decisions and getting people killed.

 

[pknopp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

The most dangerous situation for police is domestic dispute, in such case they have to be a social worker. Enforcement of the law against violent individuals means that have to use force.

They are not trained in social work.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

The most dangerous situation for police is domestic dispute, in such case they have to be a social worker. Enforcement of the law against violent individuals means that have to use force.

They are not trained in social work.

The last thing I want to see is a social worker getting hurt, they don't know how to defuse a situation unarmed

 

[Jackson]

It used to be that America would collaborate and innovate with new ideas.

Maybe the idea of layering our policing system could be a good one, if we thought about it and talked about it.

But unfortunately, we now have a significant portion of our population who don't know how to do that.

"We've never done it that way before, so no, forget it". Yeah. Brilliant. Amurica.

If I called 911 and got a social worker when someone is breaking into my house I guess I would help him carry the tv and throw him my car keys.

I'm all for new ideas but not stupid ones.

 

[fncceo]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes

I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.

Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..

Says the moron who hasn't had a cognizant thought in years.

Way to use those counseling skills. You'll have no problem dealing with that crack head holding his family in the house with a shotgun.

Nobody ever suggested sending out a counselor to that sort of situation. Bear has gone from being silly to being stupid.

But, you really don't know what sort of thing it is until you show up. That is why police go in first.

100% of the time, it is not the same as what was reported.

 

[pknopp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

The most dangerous situation for police is domestic dispute, in such case they have to be a social worker. Enforcement of the law against violent individuals means that have to use force.

They are not trained in social work.

The last thing I want to see is a social worker getting hurt, they don't know how to defuse a situation unarmed

You understand the discussion but would rather misrepresent it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It used to be that America would collaborate and innovate with new ideas.

Maybe the idea of layering our policing system could be a good one, if we thought about it and talked about it.

But unfortunately, we now have a significant portion of our population who don't know how to do that.

"We've never done it that way before, so no, forget it". Yeah. Brilliant. Amurica.

If I called 911 and got a social worker when someone is breaking into my house I guess I would help him carry the tv and throw him my car keys.

I'm all for new ideas but not stupid ones.

Jackson that's what they want now eliminate home ownership

 

[Mac1958]

If I called 911 and got a social worker when someone is breaking into my house I guess I would help him carry the tv and throw him my car keys.
I'm all for new ideas but not stupid ones.

Maybe for a break in, it would be a cop that was sent.

See, all we have to do is "think" and "solve problems".

America used to be able to do that. True story.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

The most dangerous situation for police is domestic dispute, in such case they have to be a social worker. Enforcement of the law against violent individuals means that have to use force.

They are not trained in social work.

The last thing I want to see is a social worker getting hurt, they don't know how to defuse a situation unarmed

You understand the discussion but would rather misrepresent it.

You think a social worker can do anything against the Yahoos I deal with on a day to day basis?


It's street smarts not education

 

[pknopp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

The most dangerous situation for police is domestic dispute, in such case they have to be a social worker. Enforcement of the law against violent individuals means that have to use force.

They are not trained in social work.

The last thing I want to see is a social worker getting hurt, they don't know how to defuse a situation unarmed

You understand the discussion but would rather misrepresent it.

You think a social worker can do anything against the Yahoos I deal with on a day to day basis?


It's street smarts not education

Your family issues are yours.

 

[Wyatt earp]

A few days ago a guy got stabbed in the eye, another guy died..

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

The most dangerous situation for police is domestic dispute, in such case they have to be a social worker. Enforcement of the law against violent individuals means that have to use force.

They are not trained in social work.

The last thing I want to see is a social worker getting hurt, they don't know how to defuse a situation unarmed

You understand the discussion but would rather misrepresent it.

You think a social worker can do anything against the Yahoos I deal with on a day to day basis?


It's street smarts not education

Your family issues are yours.

No I live in the places you don't want to go.

 

[Jackson]

If I called 911 and got a social worker when someone is breaking into my house I guess I would help him carry the tv and throw him my car keys.
I'm all for new ideas but not stupid ones.

Maybe for a break in, it would be a cop that was sent.

See, all we have to do is "think" and "solve problems".

America used to be able to do that. True story.

Please provide a link to that alternative.

 

[Mac1958]

If I called 911 and got a social worker when someone is breaking into my house I guess I would help him carry the tv and throw him my car keys.
I'm all for new ideas but not stupid ones.

Maybe for a break in, it would be a cop that was sent.

See, all we have to do is "think" and "solve problems".

America used to be able to do that. True story.

Please provide a link to that alternative.

What alternative? What link? I just tossed an "idea" out there. That's how it USED to work. You begin with an IDEA and go from there. Communication. Collaboration. Innovation.

Didn't you know that's the way America used to be?

 

[pknopp]

A few days ago a guy got stabbed in the eye, another guy died..

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.

I wonder why conservatives argue against having the police actually enforcing laws instead of being social workers which is what they are when they are breaking up a husband and wife arguing. I think it's just a reflexive hatred of anything that may actually work

The most dangerous situation for police is domestic dispute, in such case they have to be a social worker. Enforcement of the law against violent individuals means that have to use force.

They are not trained in social work.

The last thing I want to see is a social worker getting hurt, they don't know how to defuse a situation unarmed

You understand the discussion but would rather misrepresent it.

You think a social worker can do anything against the Yahoos I deal with on a day to day basis?


It's street smarts not education

Your family issues are yours.

No I live in the places you don't want to go.

Based upon your pic, that is probably correct.