Democrat Want's to Replace Police With Unarmed Teams. OMFG! Laughable

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes
I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".
The goal is to resolve things without having to arrest someone.
If the mediator you send out just aggravates the situation, how is that going to help?

And yes, if you don't have the legal power to arrest them, or the physical ability to hand out a beating, then you absolutely are in a position of weakness..... and everyone but you knows it.


You are just sending out ready-made victims, and you're not helping anyone.

If the mediator solves the issue; it helps
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

It reminds me of this post



It takes a special kind of person to fill the incredibly demanding role of a nurse. The schedule is usually crazy, the hours are long and the situations can often be heart-wrenching. It’s easy for those in the field to feel overlooked and under-appreciated. Which is exactly why Philip Urtz shared a photo of his wife eating dinner alone after getting home from a 14-hour shift as a stroke nurse. And what he says is so beautiful that it’s gone viral!


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to break up a domestic argument?

You'd be surprised how many domestics involve weapons. Especially now with people stuck inside with each other all day.
Percentage wise--how many do?

Enough... things can go south pretty quickly if drugs and or alcohol are involved.

Please don't post any real life police scenarios. CC wants us to believe the only scenario is loud music.
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes
I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.
Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.
Ya mean like this from today ...or rather yesterday



The Sheboygan County, Wisconsin district attorney has determined the use of deadly force was reasonable and no charges will be filed in the officer-involved death of Kevan Ruffin. At 5:50 AM, the Sheboygan County Dispatch Center received a 911 call reporting a disturbance involving weapons near 15th Street and Illinois Avenue.
 
to break up a domestic argument?

You'd be surprised how many domestics involve weapons. Especially now with people stuck inside with each other all day.
Percentage wise--how many do?

Enough... things can go south pretty quickly if drugs and or alcohol are involved.

Please don't post any real life police scenarios. CC wants us to believe the only scenario is loud music.

No.

What I'm saying is that if you have a call about a domestic dispute, public disturbance, criminal trespassing, or some class C/B misdemeanor, it may be able to be passed off to someone who isn't a police officer--freeing up the officers to respond more quickly to crimes where there is actual life or property loss or damage.
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes
I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.
Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..

Says the moron who hasn't had a cognizant thought in years.
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

I dont expect you to understand but here goes:

Nobody knows who, how many and what is behind the thousands of doors with the loud music.
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.
There is a lot about them that needs to be changed, IMO.

But a lot of the stuff being suggested and/or demanded won't fix any of the real problems we have with LE in this country. They seem to be just calculated to increase crime and disorder. And to make people not want to be cops.
Which makes me wonder if the plan is to gut the police forces and then when they're desperate for warm bodies, put people of a certain ideological bent into those jobs.
Kind of like they have been doing with DA and prosecutor jobs around the country.

The way DA's operate are going to change also. Look at how easily Tusli Gabbard took down Kamala Harris.
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

I dont expect you to understand but here goes:

Nobody knows who, how many and what is behind the thousands of doors with the loud music.

So roll out the SWAT team for every call then...right?
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes
I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.
Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..

Says the moron who hasn't had a cognizant thought in years.

Way to use those counseling skills. You'll have no problem dealing with that crack head holding his family in the house with a shotgun.
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.
Ya mean like this from today ...or rather yesterday



The Sheboygan County, Wisconsin district attorney has determined the use of deadly force was reasonable and no charges will be filed in the officer-involved death of Kevan Ruffin. At 5:50 AM, the Sheboygan County Dispatch Center received a 911 call reporting a disturbance involving weapons near 15th Street and Illinois Avenue.

You can search all the time for this bullshit



 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

It reminds me of this post



It takes a special kind of person to fill the incredibly demanding role of a nurse. The schedule is usually crazy, the hours are long and the situations can often be heart-wrenching. It’s easy for those in the field to feel overlooked and under-appreciated. Which is exactly why Philip Urtz shared a photo of his wife eating dinner alone after getting home from a 14-hour shift as a stroke nurse. And what he says is so beautiful that it’s gone viral!


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I did that for 32 years. (eat alone because of my schedule). It doesn't give me the right to beat someone for doing nothing.

What We Know About the Killing of Elijah McClain
 
Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots! :lmao:

Do you really need to send two armed officers out to a house that is playing it's music too loud or to break up a domestic argument?

Dummies like you will think so.
in your racist utopia a white person will not be allowed to call 911 if the other party is black. There are initiatives concerning this at least in Virginia. Calling 911 would be a hate crime in this instance. Of course white people are no longer allowed to defend themselves if their attacker is black. we have seen this played out on the national level.
domestic disputes often involve LEOs being shot, but that is Ok since the LEO is a fascist white person. Fuck them, they are racists merely for having the wrong color skin.
 
It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

Again, NPR did a story on this. I think it was in Georgia. The program of sending out social workers is having mixed results. I'll look for a link to the story.

I have no doubt that initially there will be mixed results. It will take time to find the proper levels and the way to do this.
 
Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.
They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes
I'm dealing with a mentally ill person right now. A police officer lives under the threat of being shot and killed if they are directing traffic by the same mentally ill people.
Says the girl who doesn't know much, who lives in a bubble..

Says the moron who hasn't had a cognizant thought in years.

We are in a conversation Buble girl and you want to attach me?

Report
 
It used to be that America would collaborate and innovate with new ideas.

Maybe the idea of layering our policing system could be a good one, if we thought about it and talked about it.

But unfortunately, we now have a significant portion of our population who don't know how to do that.

"We've never done it that way before, so no, forget it". Yeah. Brilliant. Amurica.
true. Comply or the riots will continue er.... I mean peaceful protests
 
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