Democrat Want's to Replace Police With Unarmed Teams. OMFG! Laughable

[fncceo]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

 

[candycorn]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

Kids playing their stereo too loud and neighbors complaining is a "potential conflict"?

 

[candycorn]

to break up a domestic argument?

You'd be surprised how many domestics involve weapons. Especially now with people stuck inside with each other all day.

Percentage wise--how many do?

Enough... things can go south pretty quickly if drugs and or alcohol are involved.

So....its just a blanket..."you have no idea" allegation when you don't seem to have an idea yourself. I'm sure arguments can escalate. You can always call armed response if the mediators are not able to resolve the issue.

But let me ask you this...what keeps someone from stabbing someone at 1234 Main Street? It's the "threat" of the police arresting them, taking them to jail, and their losing their freedom, right?

So in your mind if you take out the equation of going to jail these punks won't do the crime?


LMFAO that's anarchy

Again...your brain damage is showing....

Because you send a mediator out first doesn't remove the threat of going to jail because if they don't knock it off, the actual police will be the next ones to show up.
If there is an assault in progress, you send the police out. If there is a guy sleeping on the sidewalk impeding a right of way or sleeping in a doorway (trespassing) the mediator can be used.

I'm sure you'll have some sort of silly response. Its all you have left.

The supreme court ruled people have the right to sleep on the sidewalk


Good God how can I debate some one who doesn't know the laws?

Not if it forces people to walk in the streets? Really guy...is blood not flowing to your head?

 

[Disir]

Oregon Dem wants to replace cops using unarmed teams funded via Medicaid hike: report

An Oregon Democrat is seeking a hike in Medicaid funding to help finance unarmed response teams that would replace police officers in some instances, according to a report.

www.foxnews.com

Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots!

Do you really need to send two armed officers out to a house that is playing it's music too loud or to break up a domestic argument?

Dummies like you will think so.

For that Domestic argument you absolutely do. Do not send social workers to fix that. Nope. That's where a cop is most likely to get shot. That's insane. Every social worker in the country is watching this shit and saying.............nope. Not doing it. Don't look at me. I will not do it.

Secondly, CAHOOTS doesn't magically make inpatient available for mentally ill people. If you do not have that then you aren't solving the problem. It doesn't take a genius to see that. Deescalation works with opportunity. It usually doesn't work on mentally ill people or those that are high as hell for the same reason that it doesn't work on a two year old. You have to be able to reason with them.

 

[pyetro]

Oregon Dem wants to replace cops using unarmed teams funded via Medicaid hike: report

An Oregon Democrat is seeking a hike in Medicaid funding to help finance unarmed response teams that would replace police officers in some instances, according to a report.

www.foxnews.com

Soon this will be position of DNC! Idiots!

The thread headline says "Democrats", while the article says one Democrat.
BS thread of the month.

 

[Wyatt earp]

to break up a domestic argument?

You'd be surprised how many domestics involve weapons. Especially now with people stuck inside with each other all day.

Percentage wise--how many do?

Enough... things can go south pretty quickly if drugs and or alcohol are involved.

So....its just a blanket..."you have no idea" allegation when you don't seem to have an idea yourself. I'm sure arguments can escalate. You can always call armed response if the mediators are not able to resolve the issue.

But let me ask you this...what keeps someone from stabbing someone at 1234 Main Street? It's the "threat" of the police arresting them, taking them to jail, and their losing their freedom, right?

So in your mind if you take out the equation of going to jail these punks won't do the crime?


LMFAO that's anarchy

Again...your brain damage is showing....

Because you send a mediator out first doesn't remove the threat of going to jail because if they don't knock it off, the actual police will be the next ones to show up.
If there is an assault in progress, you send the police out. If there is a guy sleeping on the sidewalk impeding a right of way or sleeping in a doorway (trespassing) the mediator can be used.

I'm sure you'll have some sort of silly response. Its all you have left.

The supreme court ruled people have the right to sleep on the sidewalk


Good God how can I debate some one who doesn't know the laws?

Not if it forces people to walk in the streets? Really guy...is blood not flowing to your head?

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[fncceo]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

Kids playing their stereo too loud and neighbors complaining is a "potential conflict"?

Neighbors have killed each other over noisy stereos.

The thing is ... you don't know what is going on based on the initial complaint. Things only have to go bad one time for that life coach to get his arse handed to him by a bunch of drunk frat boys.

Then, when police do have to roll on the call (as well as the ambulance for Stuart Smalley) the situation is already out of hand and you have to send more police to arrest the perpetrators.

 

[candycorn]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

Kids playing their stereo too loud and neighbors complaining is a "potential conflict"?

Neighbors have killed each other over noisy stereos.

The thing is ... you don't know what is going on based on the initial complaint. Things only have to go bad one time for that life coach to get his arse handed to him by a bunch of drunk frat boys.

Then, when police do have to roll on the call (as well as the ambulance for Stuart Smalley) the situation is already out of hand and you have to send more police to arrest the perpetrators.

Okay...so send he SWAT team out for every call in that case then...right? Full body armor, long arms, riot helmets....

That is what you're suggesting right?

 

[freyasman]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

 

[candycorn]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

Kids playing their stereo too loud and neighbors complaining is a "potential conflict"?

Neighbors have killed each other over noisy stereos.

The thing is ... you don't know what is going on based on the initial complaint. Things only have to go bad one time for that life coach to get his arse handed to him by a bunch of drunk frat boys.

Then, when police do have to roll on the call (as well as the ambulance for Stuart Smalley) the situation is already out of hand and you have to send more police to arrest the perpetrators.

Okay...so send he SWAT team out for every call in that case then...right? Full body armor, long arms, riot helmets....

That is what you're suggesting right?

Of course it isn't...but that is what you're implying...that you need guys packing weapons to tell someone to turn their stereo down.

Common sense tells us all that you don't.

Again...if it solves 1 out of every 20 calls, that reduces your case load by 5%. Some nights it may be 1 out of every 15 calls. Other nights, it may do nothing at all.

 

[Disir]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

Kids playing their stereo too loud and neighbors complaining is a "potential conflict"?

Neighbors have killed each other over noisy stereos.

The thing is ... you don't know what is going on based on the initial complaint. Things only have to go bad one time for that life coach to get his arse handed to him by a bunch of drunk frat boys.

Then, when police do have to roll on the call (as well as the ambulance for Stuart Smalley) the situation is already out of hand and you have to send more police to arrest the perpetrators.

Stuart Smalley.

 

[candycorn]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

 

[Wyatt earp]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

Kids playing their stereo too loud and neighbors complaining is a "potential conflict"?

Neighbors have killed each other over noisy stereos.

The thing is ... you don't know what is going on based on the initial complaint. Things only have to go bad one time for that life coach to get his arse handed to him by a bunch of drunk frat boys.

Then, when police do have to roll on the call (as well as the ambulance for Stuart Smalley) the situation is already out of hand and you have to send more police to arrest the perpetrators.

Okay...so send he SWAT team out for every call in that case then...right? Full body armor, long arms, riot helmets....

That is what you're suggesting right?

The last thing we need is people not equipped to deal with these thugs, I have seen a person get shanked in county jail in Chicago over a stupid potato chip.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

Your dealing with mentally ill people who will kill if your wearing the wrong shoes

 

[freyasman]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

Kids playing their stereo too loud and neighbors complaining is a "potential conflict"?

Yes.

How do you not know that?

 

[pknopp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

 

[freyasman]

Because you send a mediator out first

Here's the thing ... ambulance and firefighters won't go into a potential conflict without police escort.

I'm pretty sure the skinny guy with a state college bachelors in interpersonal conflict resolution isn't going to last very long in that job.

They don't get it; you can't negotiate a resolution to a violent, or potentially violent, conflict from a position of weakness.
If the person you're telling to calm down knows you can't arrest him, or beat him down, he ain't going to listen to anything you say, he's going to at best ignore you, and maybe beat you to death for not minding your own business.
The people who are coming up with these ideas have no clue about how conflict is actually managed in the real world.
And they're going to get some people hurt, and probably killed.

I don't expect you to understand but here it goes...

Sending out a mediator doesn't empty the options box. The next people to show up will arrest someone. There is no "position of weakness".

The goal is to resolve things without having to arrest someone.
If the mediator you send out just aggravates the situation, how is that going to help?

And yes, if you don't have the legal power to arrest them, or the physical ability to hand out a beating, then you absolutely are in a position of weakness..... and everyone but you knows it.


You are just sending out ready-made victims, and you're not helping anyone.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

 

[pknopp]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

It's not going to happen, our country is way to big

It's already starting.

 

[freyasman]

It's going to happen. We are going to change the way we operate our police forces. We are behind other first world countries in this regard already.

There is a lot about them that needs to be changed, IMO.

But a lot of the stuff being suggested and/or demanded won't fix any of the real problems we have with LE in this country. They seem to be just calculated to increase crime and disorder. And to make people not want to be cops.
Which makes me wonder if the plan is to gut the police forces and then when they're desperate for warm bodies, put people of a certain ideological bent into those jobs.
Kind of like they have been doing with DA and prosecutor jobs around the country.