Democrat jasmine crockett says theft should be legal if you need the stuff TO SURVIVE

[EvilCat Breath]

The Bible says it is not stealing if you are starving and eat what you've taken there on the stranger's farm you picked it from....after you've eaten, if you take any fruit or veggies from the farm with you, it IS considered THEFT/stealing.

Today we are not speaking about a farm, but a store....and I'm not sure how that translates???

No one is starving in this country. Our poor are obese. They could do with a bit of cutting down.

 

[Care4all]

No one is starving in this country. Our poor are obese. They could do with a bit of cutting down.

Sure, if you say so....

 

[HikerGuy83]

I agree so lead by example Jasmine leave your door unlocked and open if you have an alarm turn it off and put up sign that says if you are in need take whatever you need.

What is someone tell Jasmine the mouth that they "need" sex.

Wonder what she'll do?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Sure, if you say so....

Close the food banks and the pantries, stop church food baskets, then we will see who starves.

Of course since we know how immigration impacts our poor, they already know how to solve their food problems.

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[Care4all]

Close the food banks and the pantries, stop church food baskets, then we will see who starves.

Of course since we know how immigration impacts our poor, they already know how to solve their food problems.

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Ooooo, yuk! I ain't gonna read that....I'm already having a hard time falling asleep!

 

[Care4all]

You weren’t allowed to stop shoplifters because they were worried about liability. If one of their employees gets hurt or worse, killed, trying to stop a shoplifter then they or their family sues the company for millions.

When I was a kid, stores paid for security guards and they and only they could grab a shop lifter and if serious...over a certain amount, they called the police.

Department stores, during hard times, like recessions usually cut employees and security guards were first to be cut...when out of slow times and rehiring they were the last to be rehired, if at all....eventually someone at the top put a pencil to it and decided security guards for shop lifting was not worth the expense of paying the guards...only they had faulty numbers...they were looking at annual shortages after inventory being really low so of course it might have appeared they all were not needed, but the theft numbers were low, BECAUSE they had the security guards, when they were gone, the annual theft rates rose tremendously.

Annual theft...shop lifting...sales employee theft...dock worker theft was a calculated number considered when buyers marked up their product retail for the stores...

In other words, the customers, via higher initial retail prices, pay for the corporations annual theft. When it goes over that planned theft rate is when their bottom line takes a hit.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Sure, if you say so....

If you have eyes, there is no doubt. The only people with food emergencies are some of the homeless.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Her reaction "Crockett noted Creuzot “probably shouldn’t have said it out loud,” but nonetheless agreed with the approach" is more intelligent, even if the store lost the $20 Bucks.

Pure garbage.

And whose going to determine if they "needed" it that badly.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The Bible says it is not stealing if you are starving and eat what you've taken there on the stranger's farm

Reference please.

I recall a very clear directive: Thou shalt not steal.

It does not give any qualifiers.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Stealing is stealing....end of story.

There is no equivocation.

If you steal, you pay the price.

If you are hungry, there are resources out there.

 

[Care4all]

If you have eyes, there is no doubt. The only people with food emergencies are some of the homeless.

You can't possibly or honestly know that AZ....it's too broad brush imo.

I am not arguing in favor of shop lifters, every person and situation is different....none of it is good....

I simply stated how the Bible gives example of where it is not theft with food, under the circumstances the Bible lists....it's a lesson in compassion and understanding I suppose, that not all theft is equal....

 

[AZrailwhale]

You can't possibly or honestly know that AZ....it's too broad brush imo.

I am not arguing in favor of shop lifters, every person and situation is different....none of it is good....

I simply stated how the Bible gives example of where it is not theft with food, under the circumstances the Bible lists....it's a lesson in compassion and understanding I suppose, that not all theft is equal....

I’ve been poor, I’ve worked among poor people, and I never saw anyone starving. I saw the opposite, short of some of the homeless even the poor are very well fed and often overweight. If the poor were starving, people like you would be screaming the statistics to the heavens.

 

[Care4all]

Reference please.

I recall a very clear directive: Thou shalt not steal.

It does not give any qualifiers.

Deuteronomy 23:24 When you enter your neighbor's vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not put any in your basket. - Bible Hub

New Living Translation
24When you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not carry any away in a basket. 25When you enter your neighbor’s grainfield, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain.…


Matthew 12:1
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them.​

 

[Care4all]

I’ve been poor, I’ve worked among poor people, and I never saw anyone starving. I saw the opposite, short of some of the homeless even the poor are very well fed and often overweight. If the poor were starving, people like you would be screaming the statistics to the heavens.

Not every place is what you experienced.


Many food banks in Maine face challenges due to rising demand, reduced federal aid, and inflation. Some have had to restrict services to keep up with the increasing need.

 

[PeanutGallery]

Deuteronomy 23:24 When you enter your neighbor's vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not put any in your basket. - Bible Hub​

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New Living Translation​

24When you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not carry any away in a basket. 25When you enter your neighbor’s grainfield, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain.…​

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Matthew 12:1​

At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them.​

The problem is your scenarios is that neither one shows that they stole anything by eating the grapes in the vineyard or eating grain (in the KJV it's corn). It says what they can do if they go there. Where does it say that they went there without the permission of the owner?

 

[HikerGuy83]

Deuteronomy 23:24 When you enter your neighbor's vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not put any in your basket. - Bible Hub​

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New Living Translation​

24When you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not carry any away in a basket. 25When you enter your neighbor’s grainfield, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain.…​

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Matthew 12:1​

At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them.​

Since God here concedes a great indulgence to the poor, some restrict it to the laborers in the harvest and vintage, (142) as if He permitted them to pluck the ears of corn and grapes with their hands for food alone, and not to carry away. I have no doubt, however, that it refers to all persons, and that no greater license is given than humanity demands. For we must not strain the words too precisely, but look to the intention of the Lawgiver. God forbids men to introduce a sickle into the harvest of another; now, if a man should pluck with his hands as many ears of corn as he could carry on his shoulders, or lay upon a horse, could he excuse himself by the puerile explanation that he had not used a sickle? But, if common sense itself repudiates such gross impudence, it is plain that the Law has another object, viz., that no one should touch even an ear of another man’s harvest, except for present use, which occurred to Christ’s disciples, when they were compelled by hunger to rub the ears of corn in their hands, lest they should faint by the way. (Matthew 12:1.) The same view must be taken as to grapes. If any man deliberately breaks into another’s vineyard and gorges himself there, whatever excuse he may make, he will be accounted a thief. Wherefore, there is no doubt but that this Law permits hungry travelers to refresh themselves by eating grapes, when they have not enough of other food. But although the liberty of eating to their fill is granted, still it was not. allowable oil this pretext to gorge themselves. Besides, vineyards were enclosed with hedges and guarded; whence it appears that the grapes were not exposed to every glutton. This, then, is the sum, that it is not accounted a theft, if a traveler, in order to relieve his hunger, should stretch forth his hand to the hanging fruit, (143) until he should arrive at his resting-place where he may buy bread and wine.

Deuteronomy 23:24 - John Calvin's Commentary on the Bible - Bible Study & Commentary

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Which is not stealing. The law is very clear on the difference.

And Crockett is promoting stealing.

Big difference.

 

[Blaster]

Democrats have a love affair with criminals.

 

[drudge X]

I love the excuse. It's only a loaf of bread that cost $1.50. Great, now multiply that by 1000 or 10,000 if that many claim I cannot afford it. She knows that her people don't steal bread. Just ask department and jewelry stores.

 

[the watcher]

What if the needy have already cleaned out the food and hi end clothing stoes? They gots to get some bling that they can sell for 10 cents on the dollar or give to their baby mommas, to help raise them shorties. It's only right.

 

[Scoutster]

She's a loon and anyone trying to defend her is one as well