Democrat jasmine crockett says theft should be legal if you need the stuff TO SURVIVE

[Scoutster]

Democrats have a love affair with criminals.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Deuteronomy 23:24 When you enter your neighbor's vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not put any in your basket. - Bible Hub​

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24When you enter your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes, but you must not carry any away in a basket. 25When you enter your neighbor’s grainfield, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor’s grain.…​

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Matthew 12:1​

At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them.​

Democrats interpret this to "you may break into your neighbors home and take anything he has".

 

[White 6]

You weren’t allowed to stop shoplifters because they were worried about liability. If one of their employees gets hurt or worse, killed, trying to stop a shoplifter then they or their family sues the company for millions.

They wouldn't even let me do it. No way I was going to get hurt. Liability due to injured thieves was a definite possibility. At another place, I was hired because I could handle myself and nobody batted an eye, when I pull the company supplied .38, pointed it between the eyes of the dock hop that had pulled a knife on my District Manager, and I said, "Go ahead, try to cut him and they'll be packing your ass at the funeral home by noon tomorrow." Corporate, (especially my District manager, didn't mind a bit. More modern companies are just pussies.

 

[White 6]

Pure garbage.

And whose going to determine if they "needed" it that badly.

A prosecutor or judge? Heck, some places don't even charge bail, anymore.

 

[drudge X]

What if the needy have already cleaned out the food and hi end clothing stoes? They gots to get some bling that they can sell for 10 cents on the dollar or give to their baby mommas, to help raise them shorties. It's only right.

In CA, forget it. Newsom said it’s the jewelry store’s fault for selling jewelry.

 

[Care4all]

Since God here concedes a great indulgence to the poor, some restrict it to the laborers in the harvest and vintage, (142) as if He permitted them to pluck the ears of corn and grapes with their hands for food alone, and not to carry away. I have no doubt, however, that it refers to all persons, and that no greater license is given than humanity demands. For we must not strain the words too precisely, but look to the intention of the Lawgiver. God forbids men to introduce a sickle into the harvest of another; now, if a man should pluck with his hands as many ears of corn as he could carry on his shoulders, or lay upon a horse, could he excuse himself by the puerile explanation that he had not used a sickle? But, if common sense itself repudiates such gross impudence, it is plain that the Law has another object, viz., that no one should touch even an ear of another man’s harvest, except for present use, which occurred to Christ’s disciples, when they were compelled by hunger to rub the ears of corn in their hands, lest they should faint by the way. (Matthew 12:1.) The same view must be taken as to grapes. If any man deliberately breaks into another’s vineyard and gorges himself there, whatever excuse he may make, he will be accounted a thief. Wherefore, there is no doubt but that this Law permits hungry travelers to refresh themselves by eating grapes, when they have not enough of other food. But although the liberty of eating to their fill is granted, still it was not. allowable oil this pretext to gorge themselves. Besides, vineyards were enclosed with hedges and guarded; whence it appears that the grapes were not exposed to every glutton. This, then, is the sum, that it is not accounted a theft, if a traveler, in order to relieve his hunger, should stretch forth his hand to the hanging fruit, (143) until he should arrive at his resting-place where he may buy bread and wine.

Deuteronomy 23:24 - John Calvin's Commentary on the Bible - Bible Study & Commentary

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Which is not stealing. The law is very clear on the difference.

And Crockett is promoting stealing.

Big difference.

Yes, if they leave the food market with any food in their hand, they would be stealing....never said otherwise. If they eat an apple while in the market if hungry, with no means to pay, they may not be....under God's rules....not necessarily society's.


NOTE!
-The apostles had no money, they were sent out with nothing but the clothes on their back if memory serves....? Not sure they'd have any money to go in to town and buy food, they relied on hospitality and eating from fields along the way....deciples too?

-And corn, obviously is a wrong translation. Corn (maize) was a product of the Americas and was not brought to Europe or the Middle east until after 1492.

 

[jknowgood]

Talk about woke lunacy. Anybody can say i need food or i need your car or i need your house! Does she want car-jacking and squatting made legal?

Jasmine Crockett: 'No Point' in Prosecuting Crimes Committed 'to Survive'

Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) suggested this week that prosecutions are not always justified when offenses involve basic survival needs.

www.breitbart.com

Your people at work.

 

[Paddlefoot]

A prosecutor or judge? Heck, some places don't even charge bail, anymore.

In Austin they tell stores to not even call the police about theft.

 

[jbrownson0831]

I marked as informative, but was referring to the linked article, not the OP reaction.

The article reported her saying:
“There are crimes that are committed, not because people are criminals, but because they literally are trying to survive,” Crockett stated. She went on to cite Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot, who in past remarks suggested that his office would not prosecute low-level theft cases involving food, diapers, or other necessities. Crockett noted Creuzot “probably shouldn’t have said it out loud,” but nonetheless agreed with the approach, adding that “there is no good point in doing it because a decent defense attorney would have a defense.”

Obviously you could prosecute somebody for shoplifting, a loaf of bread, gallon of milk and a package of baby diapers and probably win on the merits, if no defense offered accept starvation poverty, right in Texas. But, then what have you got? And, how many tax dollars did you spend to prosecute it. If they cannot even by food, they won't be able to pay fine for stealing the less than $20.00 of goods needed to sustain them for a day or two, as they're obviously not making big jack on the black market milk and pampers sales.

Her reaction "Crockett noted Creuzot “probably shouldn’t have said it out loud,” but nonetheless agreed with the approach" is more intelligent, even if the store lost the $20 Bucks.

If they are physically able to steal, why aren't they physically able to work and earn money to buy their food??

 

[White 6]

In Austin they tell stores to not even call the police about theft.

I think Texas is a place, where you can shoot to protect your property, but, I could be wrong.

 

[Paddlefoot]

I think Texas is a place, where you can shoot to protect your property, but, I could be wrong.

Its called castle doctorine.

 

[HikerGuy83]

-The apostles had no money, they were sent out with nothing but the clothes on their back if memory serves....? Not sure they'd have any money to go in to town and buy food, they relied on hospitality and eating from fields along the way....deciples too?

The apostles kept a treasury as recorded in John 12. It was Judas who kept it and revealed his hypocrisy more than once.

They had money to pay for things.

Why Was Judas Carrying the Moneybag?

Jesus put a thief in charge of his moneybag. Has that ever struck you as odd? Last week we focused on Mary, who poured a year’s wages on Jesus’s feet, and Judas, who saw Mary’s worshipful act as huge…

www.desiringgod.org

 

[HikerGuy83]

Yes, if they leave the food market with any food in their hand, they would be stealing....never said otherwise. If they eat an apple while in the market if hungry, with no means to pay, they may not be....under God's rules....not necessarily society's.

As is the case in any society, this will work until it is abused.

Which it is today.

Organized crime or gangs could be behind a $300K L.A. 'flash rob,' police say

The group that swarmed the Nordstrom in a Woodland Hills mall Saturday wore ski masks and fled with high-end handbags, clothing and other easily re-sellable items.

www.nbcnews.com

MY GUESS (noticed I stated it as a guess) is that Crockett would not prosecute these idiots either.

Who makes that determination.

If you saw someone eating food at a market that they could not pay for an the owner complaining, you'd likely pay for it yourself......again MY GUESS. I would be thinking about that.

 

[White 6]

Its called castle doctorine.

In Tennessee, Castle Doctrine does not extend to goods and property, not even the car in your driveway, unless they are trying to run you down with it. But, if somebody breaks into your home, while you are in there, they are assumed a physical threat, and you can shoot them until they are no longer a threat. Though you had best have legal representation, as the dead asshole's family can still sue.

I favor being able to protect your property and if you are innocent, due to the threat of dead or injured criminal, you should be protected, by statue for civil lawsuit. But, that is just me. For the moment, I would go with the having representation, and not making statements or answering many questions without a lawyer. This ain't Florida or Texas.

 

[Care4all]

The apostles kept a treasury as recorded in John 12. It was Judas who kept it and revealed his hypocrisy more than once.

They had money to pay for things.

Why Was Judas Carrying the Moneybag?

Jesus put a thief in charge of his moneybag. Has that ever struck you as odd? Last week we focused on Mary, who poured a year’s wages on Jesus’s feet, and Judas, who saw Mary’s worshipful act as huge…

www.desiringgod.org

Judas was dead, when the 12 were sent out with nothing....

Luke 9​

Jesus Sends Out the Twelve Disciples

1One day Jesus called together his twelve disciples and gave them power and authority to cast out all demons and to heal all diseases. 2Then he sent them out to tell everyone about the Kingdom of God and to heal the sick. 3“Take nothing for your journey,” he instructed them. “Don’t take a walking stick, a traveler’s bag, food, money, or even a change of clothes. 4Wherever you go, stay in the same house until you leave town. 5And if a town refuses to welcome you, shake its dust from your feet as you leave to show that you have abandoned those people to their fate.”

 

[HikerGuy83]

Judas was dead, when the 12 were sent out with nothing....

Luke 9​

Jesus Sends Out the Twelve Disciples

1One day Jesus called together his twelve disciples and gave them power and authority to cast out all demons and to heal all diseases. 2Then he sent them out to tell everyone about the Kingdom of God and to heal the sick. 3“Take nothing for your journey,” he instructed them. “Don’t take a walking stick, a traveler’s bag, food, money, or even a change of clothes. 4Wherever you go, stay in the same house until you leave town. 5And if a town refuses to welcome you, shake its dust from your feet as you leave to show that you have abandoned those people to their fate.

Nevertheless, they had a money bag when Jesus was around.

How you look at this, I don't care. He never tells them to take anything that isn't theirs.

In fact, Paul (not one of the twelve) worked to support himself during his ministry.

 

[GMCGeneral]

The Bible says it is not stealing if you are starving and eat what you've taken there on the stranger's farm you picked it from....after you've eaten, if you take any fruit or veggies from the farm with you, it IS considered THEFT/stealing.

Today we are not speaking about a farm, but a store....and I'm not sure how that translates???

Paul further writes in I Thessalonians: "If a man shall not work, neither should he eat"

 

[Care4all]

Paul further writes in I Thessalonians: "If a man shall not work, neither should he eat"

There are work requirements to receive food stamps....but there are some exceptions...like the older woman who is taking care of her elderly parents as a care keeper...might not be able to work....is how I've understood it?

 

[SweetSue92]

Yes, if they leave the food market with any food in their hand, they would be stealing....never said otherwise. If they eat an apple while in the market if hungry, with no means to pay, they may not be....under God's rules....not necessarily society's.


NOTE!
-The apostles had no money, they were sent out with nothing but the clothes on their back if memory serves....? Not sure they'd have any money to go in to town and buy food, they relied on hospitality and eating from fields along the way....deciples too?

-And corn, obviously is a wrong translation. Corn (maize) was a product of the Americas and was not brought to Europe or the Middle east until after 1492.

Just....wow.

Hospitality = willingly GIVING people what you have

Stealing = people taking goods that are not theirs by FORCE

If you don't understand that, see sex in marriage vs. rape. Geez