Dem Talking Point Failure: America's Poorest Are Richer Than 60% of Developed Countries

[Ray From Cleveland]

Unless one is born into money one has next to a zero chance of becoming wealthy. If one is born into poverty one has a next to zero chance of becoming middle class. And work ethic won't change the equation.

that is bullshit mister. where in the hell are you from?

The MSNBC audience.

 

[FA_Q2]

The Poor in America live in climate controlled homes, have electricity, indoor plumbing and refrigerators, watch big screen TVs, have mobile phones and automobiles...and have a high rate of obesity (and Type II diabetes).

The Real Poor in other countries and earlier in history starved and lived in squalor.

But the America-centric left doesn't understand that electricity and indoor plumbing and refrigerators are unimaginable luxuries to much of the world.

They think they are just things to be redistributed from better off people to less well off ones. Magic!

They think they are just things to be redistributed from better off people to less well off ones. Magic!

Under tRumps tariffs, you are now paying up to $1000.00/yr in higher prices, while I, a billionaire, received a 50% reduction in tax liability. Magic!

But wait, there's more. October 1st, the second round of tRumps tariff's take effect. More magic!

So now you are a billionaire?

Do you think anyone takes you seriously?

Jealous?

....
No. If that is what you got out of that statement you are not just delusional but also have some serious reading comprehension issues.

 

[OnePercenter]

But the America-centric left doesn't understand that electricity and indoor plumbing and refrigerators are unimaginable luxuries to much of the world.

They think they are just things to be redistributed from better off people to less well off ones. Magic!

They think they are just things to be redistributed from better off people to less well off ones. Magic!

Under tRumps tariffs, you are now paying up to $1000.00/yr in higher prices, while I, a billionaire, received a 50% reduction in tax liability. Magic!

But wait, there's more. October 1st, the second round of tRumps tariff's take effect. More magic!

So now you are a billionaire?

Do you think anyone takes you seriously?

Jealous?

Doubtful. I don't think any of us has wanted to be deranged and hallucinating, so you have nothing we desire.

So you got NOTHING!

 

[OnePercenter]

Employers should pay a living wage.

Employees should have the skills to earn one. The only guarantees in life are death and taxes. As I've said many times, people are the sum total of their own choices. The moral of the story is, make good choices and there are no limits, make bad ones and accept the life you chose. No one has an obligation to pay someone more than their skills are worth. Some jobs are entry level and not intended to live on.

You make a great argument for a $23.50/hr minimum wage.

And you make a good argument for a $25.00 Big Mac and a $100.00 Skirt Steak. Why do you hate people on a fixed income?

I'm not the one making the argument, that was YOU!

Wrong again commie, I never mentioned a specific wage.

You symbolized the essence of greed by using the greed talking points.

"Employees should have the skills to earn one. The only guarantees in life are death and taxes. As I've said many times, people are the sum total of their own choices. The moral of the story is, make good choices and there are no limits, make bad ones and accept the life you chose. No one has an obligation to pay someone more than their skills are worth. Some jobs are entry level and not intended to live on."

You were on a roll and left out "market price." - For shame!

 

[OnePercenter]

You make a great argument for a $23.50/hr minimum wage.

Why is that? Didn't you on the left chase enough jobs out of the country with your union support, taxation and regulations?

It's greed and mo' profit that moved jobs off-shore. Why should an employer pay a living wage when he/she can off-shore the job for fifty-cents per day?

Nixon allowed Japan to product dump, Reagan moved us into a world economy and daddy Bush signed foreign worker visas into law taking Americans jobs, yet you blame Democrats?

How do you not blame Democrats? When union demands made our labor a dollar more an hour, overseas labor went up two cents. When unions made labor another dollar more an hour, foreign labor went up another three cents.

Eventually we outpriced ourselves out of jobs with the support of the Democrat party. Now that unions are virtually non existent, Democrats want to continue the trend with huge minimum wage increases.

Democrats haven't been Union-basher's since the late 50's.

Employees pay has been fixed for decades while prices for products and service have risen.

Hear about the $102k Chevy Silverado assembled by $16.00/hr Union members? Mooo' profit!!!!!

The union owns 40% of GM dumb ass.

You mean the Union Trust which pay American Workers retirement and healthcare.

 

[OnePercenter]

You make a great argument for a $23.50/hr minimum wage.

Why is that? Didn't you on the left chase enough jobs out of the country with your union support, taxation and regulations?

It's greed and mo' profit that moved jobs off-shore. Why should an employer pay a living wage when he/she can off-shore the job for fifty-cents per day?

Nixon allowed Japan to product dump, Reagan moved us into a world economy and daddy Bush signed foreign worker visas into law taking Americans jobs, yet you blame Democrats?

How do you not blame Democrats? When union demands made our labor a dollar more an hour, overseas labor went up two cents. When unions made labor another dollar more an hour, foreign labor went up another three cents.

Eventually we outpriced ourselves out of jobs with the support of the Democrat party. Now that unions are virtually non existent, Democrats want to continue the trend with huge minimum wage increases.

Democrats haven't been Union-basher's since the late 50's.

Employees pay has been fixed for decades while prices for products and service have risen.

Hear about the $102k Chevy Silverado assembled by $16.00/hr Union members? Mooo' profit!!!!!

Legacy costs for one. Remember that all those workers that retired in their early to mid 50's are supported by the money you spend on US vehicles. Two are the benefits that far outweigh the pay. While benefits were always a major cost for any company, the benefits packages for UAW workers are the best in the country.

And no, they are not working for 16 bucks an hour either.

Are Ford Workers Really Paid $73 per Hour?

Why shouldn't American Workers be paid a good retirement for their efforts? After all, without their efforts the company would fail to exist.

 

[OnePercenter]

Inequality is slowing US economic growth: Faster wage growth for low- and middle-wage workers is the solution

And how does one accomplish that, by government taking more money from those who have it? All that does is make government richer--not you.

I would start by eliminating government corruption. We need to get rid of corporate socialism. Corruption is no doubt creating some inequality.

When you find a way to do that, let me know, because we have been looking for a way to do that the last 100 years or so.

Voting out Republicans would be a GREAT way.

 

[OnePercenter]

The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.

Why is that supprising? we are a large country, full of people who immigrated here at different times in history. Broken families, intact families, wars fought, ... hell, you can have five kids with two wonderful parents, three of the kids might end up being doctors, lawyers or business owners, yet the other two may end up being criminals or grifters, all by the same parents. The fact is, those five kids would never be equal for they are all individuals with different birth order, and different pressures, insecurities..... yet they all had equal opportunity perhaps living under the same roof. was that a Republicans fault? a Democrats? or is it just the way it is?
Why is that everything has to be equal? And why do you think it's the governments job to make everything equal outcome?

Again; The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.

Anywhere you go in the world your going to have at least two types of people. You have the ones who spring up every morning at 5AM and are looking forward to the day, whether that be work or educating themselves, and then you have the ones who cant seem to get up until 10 or 11. OK maybe not as drastic of an example but you get the idea. Some personality types are meant to be successful and leading edge, others are meant to support, other types are followers, other types are just lost until someone helps them go the right direction. Thus, you are always going to have your rich and your poor. This whole thing about poor people in the US is overblown.
So what? there is a side benefit to being poor and that is that it makes you want more. It makes you want to try harder. It gives you hunger, It makes you want to advance when you see other people who are wealthy around you and you are NOT. This doesnt mean you need to hate the rich.... That my friend is a Marxist Ideology... that you have to take from one to give to another.
But in the United States, the poor do not have to remain poor. that is one of the great things still about the US. pretty much anyone can still go to college, and pretty much anyone can be very successful if it is within themself to do so.

Example Who is Joe Lacob? Everything You Need to Know

This guy is a billionaire who started out poor. Now, if he lived in a Socialist country where he and his parents were always kept fat and happy then he probably would not have accomplished all that he did.
You might argue that it is better to keep everyone closer to even... no one really rich.. and no one really poor. Well, as people have already pointed out, the poor here in the US are still way better of than most countries of the world... and again, they don't have to stay poor. In the US there is always hope to advance. For those who dont like the way the US is , I say, don't try to change us into a European model, just move to Europe where you can feel comfortable and safe.

Lacob was raised in a middle class family and used student loans for his education. Far from the rags to riches deception you bloviate.

He also dumped his wife for a younger model. Yeah baby!!!!!!!

Middle class is very far from being a billionaire . and if he was middle class it was because both parents were working, so I would definately call that rags to riches. whats your problem with facing the reality that people don't need to remain poor in the US? Is your desire for class envy so strong?

And what the hell does him taking out student loans have to do with anything? except that probably shows his parents couldnt afford to send him to college?

Thank You! For pointing out that middle class is "rags."

 

[Yarddog]

Why is that supprising? we are a large country, full of people who immigrated here at different times in history. Broken families, intact families, wars fought, ... hell, you can have five kids with two wonderful parents, three of the kids might end up being doctors, lawyers or business owners, yet the other two may end up being criminals or grifters, all by the same parents. The fact is, those five kids would never be equal for they are all individuals with different birth order, and different pressures, insecurities..... yet they all had equal opportunity perhaps living under the same roof. was that a Republicans fault? a Democrats? or is it just the way it is?
Why is that everything has to be equal? And why do you think it's the governments job to make everything equal outcome?

Again; The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.

Anywhere you go in the world your going to have at least two types of people. You have the ones who spring up every morning at 5AM and are looking forward to the day, whether that be work or educating themselves, and then you have the ones who cant seem to get up until 10 or 11. OK maybe not as drastic of an example but you get the idea. Some personality types are meant to be successful and leading edge, others are meant to support, other types are followers, other types are just lost until someone helps them go the right direction. Thus, you are always going to have your rich and your poor. This whole thing about poor people in the US is overblown.
So what? there is a side benefit to being poor and that is that it makes you want more. It makes you want to try harder. It gives you hunger, It makes you want to advance when you see other people who are wealthy around you and you are NOT. This doesnt mean you need to hate the rich.... That my friend is a Marxist Ideology... that you have to take from one to give to another.
But in the United States, the poor do not have to remain poor. that is one of the great things still about the US. pretty much anyone can still go to college, and pretty much anyone can be very successful if it is within themself to do so.

Example Who is Joe Lacob? Everything You Need to Know

This guy is a billionaire who started out poor. Now, if he lived in a Socialist country where he and his parents were always kept fat and happy then he probably would not have accomplished all that he did.
You might argue that it is better to keep everyone closer to even... no one really rich.. and no one really poor. Well, as people have already pointed out, the poor here in the US are still way better of than most countries of the world... and again, they don't have to stay poor. In the US there is always hope to advance. For those who dont like the way the US is , I say, don't try to change us into a European model, just move to Europe where you can feel comfortable and safe.

Lacob was raised in a middle class family and used student loans for his education. Far from the rags to riches deception you bloviate.

He also dumped his wife for a younger model. Yeah baby!!!!!!!

Middle class is very far from being a billionaire . and if he was middle class it was because both parents were working, so I would definately call that rags to riches. whats your problem with facing the reality that people don't need to remain poor in the US? Is your desire for class envy so strong?

And what the hell does him taking out student loans have to do with anything? except that probably shows his parents couldnt afford to send him to college?

Thank You! For pointing out that middle class is "rags."

Yes, compared to a Billionaire. do you even know how many millions is in a billion? I'm starting to doubt it. So yes, in the United States, unlike many other countries you can go from a modest wealth level and become a billionaire.
unfortunately there will also be poor people, you cant make that go away because many times people are their own worse enemy with their choices. Example is the city of SF where hundreds of millions of dollars are spent on the homeless, but there is no oversight... no check on progress, no accountability and the homeless population, crime and drug use only gets bigger.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Inequality is slowing US economic growth: Faster wage growth for low- and middle-wage workers is the solution

And how does one accomplish that, by government taking more money from those who have it? All that does is make government richer--not you.

I would start by eliminating government corruption. We need to get rid of corporate socialism. Corruption is no doubt creating some inequality.

When you find a way to do that, let me know, because we have been looking for a way to do that the last 100 years or so.

Voting out Republicans would be a GREAT way.

Republicans? You mean the same Republicans who's President used our government agencies to try and defeat an opponent of the opposition party?

 

[boedicca]

They think they are just things to be redistributed from better off people to less well off ones. Magic!

They think they are just things to be redistributed from better off people to less well off ones. Magic!

Under tRumps tariffs, you are now paying up to $1000.00/yr in higher prices, while I, a billionaire, received a 50% reduction in tax liability. Magic!

But wait, there's more. October 1st, the second round of tRumps tariff's take effect. More magic!

So now you are a billionaire?

Do you think anyone takes you seriously?

Jealous?

Doubtful. I don't think any of us has wanted to be deranged and hallucinating, so you have nothing we desire.

So you got NOTHING!

^^^ Diagnosis: Terminal Projection ^^^

 

[OnePercenter]

Inequality is slowing US economic growth: Faster wage growth for low- and middle-wage workers is the solution

And how does one accomplish that, by government taking more money from those who have it? All that does is make government richer--not you.

I would start by eliminating government corruption. We need to get rid of corporate socialism. Corruption is no doubt creating some inequality.

When you find a way to do that, let me know, because we have been looking for a way to do that the last 100 years or so.

Voting out Republicans would be a GREAT way.

Republicans? You mean the same Republicans who's President used our government agencies to try and defeat an opponent of the opposition party?

Andrew Jackson?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why is that? Didn't you on the left chase enough jobs out of the country with your union support, taxation and regulations?

It's greed and mo' profit that moved jobs off-shore. Why should an employer pay a living wage when he/she can off-shore the job for fifty-cents per day?

Nixon allowed Japan to product dump, Reagan moved us into a world economy and daddy Bush signed foreign worker visas into law taking Americans jobs, yet you blame Democrats?

How do you not blame Democrats? When union demands made our labor a dollar more an hour, overseas labor went up two cents. When unions made labor another dollar more an hour, foreign labor went up another three cents.

Eventually we outpriced ourselves out of jobs with the support of the Democrat party. Now that unions are virtually non existent, Democrats want to continue the trend with huge minimum wage increases.

Democrats haven't been Union-basher's since the late 50's.

Employees pay has been fixed for decades while prices for products and service have risen.

Hear about the $102k Chevy Silverado assembled by $16.00/hr Union members? Mooo' profit!!!!!

Legacy costs for one. Remember that all those workers that retired in their early to mid 50's are supported by the money you spend on US vehicles. Two are the benefits that far outweigh the pay. While benefits were always a major cost for any company, the benefits packages for UAW workers are the best in the country.

And no, they are not working for 16 bucks an hour either.

Are Ford Workers Really Paid $73 per Hour?

Why shouldn't American Workers be paid a good retirement for their efforts? After all, without their efforts the company would fail to exist.

Why? Because it would make their product inferior to others, while at the same time being more expensive.

I've made many deliveries to the UAW plants. When it came time to buy a car, I knew I didn't want any of those worthless assholes making my car. I've been a Toyota owner for over a decade now, and none of the three I've owned ever seen a tow truck. With my last American made car, my mechanic drove it more than I did once it got past 30,000 miles.

When you overpay workers, and yes, with extravagant benefits, you have to make cuts in other places. Those cuts for American automobiles were in the parts they used. Their quality went straight down the toilet and Japanese cars have taken the lead with many US drivers.

 

[OnePercenter]

Again; The United States of America is the richest country in the world and yet we have poor people.

Anywhere you go in the world your going to have at least two types of people. You have the ones who spring up every morning at 5AM and are looking forward to the day, whether that be work or educating themselves, and then you have the ones who cant seem to get up until 10 or 11. OK maybe not as drastic of an example but you get the idea. Some personality types are meant to be successful and leading edge, others are meant to support, other types are followers, other types are just lost until someone helps them go the right direction. Thus, you are always going to have your rich and your poor. This whole thing about poor people in the US is overblown.
So what? there is a side benefit to being poor and that is that it makes you want more. It makes you want to try harder. It gives you hunger, It makes you want to advance when you see other people who are wealthy around you and you are NOT. This doesnt mean you need to hate the rich.... That my friend is a Marxist Ideology... that you have to take from one to give to another.
But in the United States, the poor do not have to remain poor. that is one of the great things still about the US. pretty much anyone can still go to college, and pretty much anyone can be very successful if it is within themself to do so.

Example Who is Joe Lacob? Everything You Need to Know

This guy is a billionaire who started out poor. Now, if he lived in a Socialist country where he and his parents were always kept fat and happy then he probably would not have accomplished all that he did.
You might argue that it is better to keep everyone closer to even... no one really rich.. and no one really poor. Well, as people have already pointed out, the poor here in the US are still way better of than most countries of the world... and again, they don't have to stay poor. In the US there is always hope to advance. For those who dont like the way the US is , I say, don't try to change us into a European model, just move to Europe where you can feel comfortable and safe.

Lacob was raised in a middle class family and used student loans for his education. Far from the rags to riches deception you bloviate.

He also dumped his wife for a younger model. Yeah baby!!!!!!!

Middle class is very far from being a billionaire . and if he was middle class it was because both parents were working, so I would definately call that rags to riches. whats your problem with facing the reality that people don't need to remain poor in the US? Is your desire for class envy so strong?

And what the hell does him taking out student loans have to do with anything? except that probably shows his parents couldnt afford to send him to college?

Thank You! For pointing out that middle class is "rags."

Yes, compared to a Billionaire. do you even know how many millions is in a billion? I'm starting to doubt it. So yes, in the United States, unlike many other countries you can go from a modest wealth level and become a billionaire.
unfortunately there will also be poor people, you cant make that go away because many times people are their own worse enemy with their choices. Example is the city of SF where hundreds of millions of dollars are spent on the homeless, but there is no oversight... no check on progress, no accountability and the homeless population, crime and drug use only gets bigger.

Rags to riches is working your way out of severe poverty. Lacobs' story is a upper middle class boy does good.

 

[OKTexas]

Employees should have the skills to earn one. The only guarantees in life are death and taxes. As I've said many times, people are the sum total of their own choices. The moral of the story is, make good choices and there are no limits, make bad ones and accept the life you chose. No one has an obligation to pay someone more than their skills are worth. Some jobs are entry level and not intended to live on.

You make a great argument for a $23.50/hr minimum wage.

And you make a good argument for a $25.00 Big Mac and a $100.00 Skirt Steak. Why do you hate people on a fixed income?

I'm not the one making the argument, that was YOU!

Wrong again commie, I never mentioned a specific wage.

You symbolized the essence of greed by using the greed talking points.

"Employees should have the skills to earn one. The only guarantees in life are death and taxes. As I've said many times, people are the sum total of their own choices. The moral of the story is, make good choices and there are no limits, make bad ones and accept the life you chose. No one has an obligation to pay someone more than their skills are worth. Some jobs are entry level and not intended to live on."

You were on a roll and left out "market price." - For shame!

Poor little commie, can't handle the facts. And for someone claiming to be rich, you should know what skills are worth is the ******* market price. Labor is just a commodity, it worth is determined by the market. I seriously doubt you've ever signed the front of a paycheck. You're just a ******* puke poser.

.

 

[OKTexas]

Why is that? Didn't you on the left chase enough jobs out of the country with your union support, taxation and regulations?

It's greed and mo' profit that moved jobs off-shore. Why should an employer pay a living wage when he/she can off-shore the job for fifty-cents per day?

Nixon allowed Japan to product dump, Reagan moved us into a world economy and daddy Bush signed foreign worker visas into law taking Americans jobs, yet you blame Democrats?

How do you not blame Democrats? When union demands made our labor a dollar more an hour, overseas labor went up two cents. When unions made labor another dollar more an hour, foreign labor went up another three cents.

Eventually we outpriced ourselves out of jobs with the support of the Democrat party. Now that unions are virtually non existent, Democrats want to continue the trend with huge minimum wage increases.

Democrats haven't been Union-basher's since the late 50's.

Employees pay has been fixed for decades while prices for products and service have risen.

Hear about the $102k Chevy Silverado assembled by $16.00/hr Union members? Mooo' profit!!!!!

The union owns 40% of GM dumb ass.

You mean the Union Trust which pay American Workers retirement and healthcare.

No dumb ****, maobama gave the UAW 40% of GMs shares in the reorganization.

.

 

[OnePercenter]

It's greed and mo' profit that moved jobs off-shore. Why should an employer pay a living wage when he/she can off-shore the job for fifty-cents per day?

Nixon allowed Japan to product dump, Reagan moved us into a world economy and daddy Bush signed foreign worker visas into law taking Americans jobs, yet you blame Democrats?

How do you not blame Democrats? When union demands made our labor a dollar more an hour, overseas labor went up two cents. When unions made labor another dollar more an hour, foreign labor went up another three cents.

Eventually we outpriced ourselves out of jobs with the support of the Democrat party. Now that unions are virtually non existent, Democrats want to continue the trend with huge minimum wage increases.

Democrats haven't been Union-basher's since the late 50's.

Employees pay has been fixed for decades while prices for products and service have risen.

Hear about the $102k Chevy Silverado assembled by $16.00/hr Union members? Mooo' profit!!!!!

Legacy costs for one. Remember that all those workers that retired in their early to mid 50's are supported by the money you spend on US vehicles. Two are the benefits that far outweigh the pay. While benefits were always a major cost for any company, the benefits packages for UAW workers are the best in the country.

And no, they are not working for 16 bucks an hour either.

Are Ford Workers Really Paid $73 per Hour?

Why shouldn't American Workers be paid a good retirement for their efforts? After all, without their efforts the company would fail to exist.

Why? Because it would make their product inferior to others, while at the same time being more expensive.

I've made many deliveries to the UAW plants. When it came time to buy a car, I knew I didn't want any of those worthless assholes making my car. I've been a Toyota owner for over a decade now, and none of the three I've owned ever seen a tow truck. With my last American made car, my mechanic drove it more than I did once it got past 30,000 miles.

When you overpay workers, and yes, with extravagant benefits, you have to make cuts in other places. Those cuts for American automobiles were in the parts they used. Their quality went straight down the toilet and Japanese cars have taken the lead with many US drivers.

Your NOT going to make any headway in a discussion by using a completely ignorant argument blaming assemblers for engineering issues. But them with you I'd expect nothing less.

 

[OnePercenter]

You make a great argument for a $23.50/hr minimum wage.

And you make a good argument for a $25.00 Big Mac and a $100.00 Skirt Steak. Why do you hate people on a fixed income?

I'm not the one making the argument, that was YOU!

Wrong again commie, I never mentioned a specific wage.

You symbolized the essence of greed by using the greed talking points.

"Employees should have the skills to earn one. The only guarantees in life are death and taxes. As I've said many times, people are the sum total of their own choices. The moral of the story is, make good choices and there are no limits, make bad ones and accept the life you chose. No one has an obligation to pay someone more than their skills are worth. Some jobs are entry level and not intended to live on."

You were on a roll and left out "market price." - For shame!

Poor little commie, can't handle the facts. And for someone claiming to be rich, you should know what skills are worth is the ******* market price. Labor is just a commodity, it worth is determined by the market. I seriously doubt you've ever signed the front of a paycheck. You're just a ******* puke poser.

Labor is just a commodity

Bullshit. Infrastructure and labor are the two key eliminates to any successful business. Saying that labor is a commodity treats workers like soybeans. Think about that when you cash your next paycheck.

 

[OnePercenter]

It's greed and mo' profit that moved jobs off-shore. Why should an employer pay a living wage when he/she can off-shore the job for fifty-cents per day?

Nixon allowed Japan to product dump, Reagan moved us into a world economy and daddy Bush signed foreign worker visas into law taking Americans jobs, yet you blame Democrats?

How do you not blame Democrats? When union demands made our labor a dollar more an hour, overseas labor went up two cents. When unions made labor another dollar more an hour, foreign labor went up another three cents.

Eventually we outpriced ourselves out of jobs with the support of the Democrat party. Now that unions are virtually non existent, Democrats want to continue the trend with huge minimum wage increases.

Democrats haven't been Union-basher's since the late 50's.

Employees pay has been fixed for decades while prices for products and service have risen.

Hear about the $102k Chevy Silverado assembled by $16.00/hr Union members? Mooo' profit!!!!!

The union owns 40% of GM dumb ass.

You mean the Union Trust which pay American Workers retirement and healthcare.

No dumb ****, maobama gave the UAW 40% of GMs shares in the reorganization.

The UAW Trust received shares equal to what GM owed their employees.

 

[Yarddog]

Anywhere you go in the world your going to have at least two types of people. You have the ones who spring up every morning at 5AM and are looking forward to the day, whether that be work or educating themselves, and then you have the ones who cant seem to get up until 10 or 11. OK maybe not as drastic of an example but you get the idea. Some personality types are meant to be successful and leading edge, others are meant to support, other types are followers, other types are just lost until someone helps them go the right direction. Thus, you are always going to have your rich and your poor. This whole thing about poor people in the US is overblown.
So what? there is a side benefit to being poor and that is that it makes you want more. It makes you want to try harder. It gives you hunger, It makes you want to advance when you see other people who are wealthy around you and you are NOT. This doesnt mean you need to hate the rich.... That my friend is a Marxist Ideology... that you have to take from one to give to another.
But in the United States, the poor do not have to remain poor. that is one of the great things still about the US. pretty much anyone can still go to college, and pretty much anyone can be very successful if it is within themself to do so.

Example Who is Joe Lacob? Everything You Need to Know

This guy is a billionaire who started out poor. Now, if he lived in a Socialist country where he and his parents were always kept fat and happy then he probably would not have accomplished all that he did.
You might argue that it is better to keep everyone closer to even... no one really rich.. and no one really poor. Well, as people have already pointed out, the poor here in the US are still way better of than most countries of the world... and again, they don't have to stay poor. In the US there is always hope to advance. For those who dont like the way the US is , I say, don't try to change us into a European model, just move to Europe where you can feel comfortable and safe.

Lacob was raised in a middle class family and used student loans for his education. Far from the rags to riches deception you bloviate.

He also dumped his wife for a younger model. Yeah baby!!!!!!!

Middle class is very far from being a billionaire . and if he was middle class it was because both parents were working, so I would definately call that rags to riches. whats your problem with facing the reality that people don't need to remain poor in the US? Is your desire for class envy so strong?

And what the hell does him taking out student loans have to do with anything? except that probably shows his parents couldnt afford to send him to college?

Thank You! For pointing out that middle class is "rags."

Yes, compared to a Billionaire. do you even know how many millions is in a billion? I'm starting to doubt it. So yes, in the United States, unlike many other countries you can go from a modest wealth level and become a billionaire.
unfortunately there will also be poor people, you cant make that go away because many times people are their own worse enemy with their choices. Example is the city of SF where hundreds of millions of dollars are spent on the homeless, but there is no oversight... no check on progress, no accountability and the homeless population, crime and drug use only gets bigger.

Rags to riches is working your way out of severe poverty. Lacobs' story is a upper middle class boy does good.

right right, usually the completely dirt poor people only become millionaires or multi millionaires. but thats not bad either.

but then there's this guy..

Forever 21 founder Do Won Chang worked as a janitor, as a gas station attendant, and in a coffee shop when he first moved to the U.S.

Net worth: $6.5 billion

Husband and wife Do Won Chang and Jin Sook, the team behind Forever 21, didn't always have it so easy. After moving to the U.S. from Korea in 1981, Do Won had to work three jobs at the same time to make ends meet. The couple opened their first clothing store in 1984.

and then there's this guy...

John Paul DeJoria, the man behind a hair-care empire and Patron Tequila, once lived in a foster home and his car.

Net worth: $2.9 billion

Before the age of 10, DeJoria, a first-generation American, sold Christmas cards and newspapers to help support his family. He was eventually sent to live in a foster home and even spent some time in a gang before joining the military.

With a $700 dollar loan, DeJoria created John Paul Mitchell Systems and sold the shampoo door-to-door while living in his car. He later started Patron Tequila, and now invests in other industries.


and this guy...

At one time, businessman Shahid Khan washed dishes for $1.20 an hour.
Net worth: $4.4 billion

He's now one of the richest people in the world, but when Khan came to the U.S. from Pakistan, he worked as a dishwasher while attending the University of Illinois. Khan now owns Flex-n-Gate, one of the largest private companies in the U.S., the NFL's Jacksonville Jaguars, and Premier League soccer club Fulham.

and then there's this guy...

Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison dropped out of college after his adoptive mother died, and he held odd jobs for eight years.
Net worth: $49.8 billion

Born in Brooklyn, New York, to a single mother, Ellison was raised by his aunt and uncle in Chicago. After his aunt died, Ellison dropped out of college and moved to California to work odd jobs for the next eight years. He founded software development company Oracle in 1977, which is now one of the largest technology companies in the world.

But you , know... the US sucks... work ethic can get you no where, I mean we still have poor people here and we are a rich country, right?