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Deliberating The 'Right' To Kill

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1. As an eternal pessimist, watching this once great nation circling the drain, wrapped in a milieu that lacks responsibility and self-discipline, I watch the impending abortion case with no sense of a favorable outcome.
And by 'favorable,' I mean one in which a Supreme Court, living up to its title, says, simply, "No....you have no such right....none that allows you to simply kill a separate and unique human being."

But.....I would settle for a decision that redounds on the original understanding of both federalism, and of article 1, section 8, of the Constitution, which lists the powers of the central government. You will not find 'abortion' listed.


In short, it should be left up to each 'laboratory of democracy,' each state.


2. LAWCOMMENTARY The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in a major abortion case, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, on Wednesday.

A Major Abortion Case Goes Before the Supreme Court. Here’s What You Need to Know.​



3. Life is our most basic human freedom, and it should be protected in public policy. From the moment of conception, every human being has inherent dignity and worth. Our laws should protect innocent human lives, including those not yet born, and society should support women who face challenging or unplanned pregnancies.

4. But Supreme Court decisions like Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992) have prevented the American people, through their elected representatives, from protecting unborn human life prior to viability (the point at which a child can survive outside the womb).

5. Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization presents an opportunity for the Supreme Court to correct a grave constitutional error and overturn Roe v. Wade, returning abortion policy to the states and the American people."



“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Thomas Jefferson.
And based on the above, every conservative is pro-life.



The Democrat view:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky
 
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Abortion was never against the law in the US until 1887..Abortions were allowed up until the quickening, why is this such an issue now?
 

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Abortion was never against the law in the US until 1887..Abortions were allowed up until the quickening, why is this such an issue now?

That of course is Moloch cult mythology.

You can show no law or statute from America stating anything like you claim.
 

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Never forget, the Abortion issue has been a cash cow for various Leftist organizations for half a century.

It is almost funny in USSC confirmation hearings when Leftist Senators try to get candidates to confirm the view that judge-made law - even if flawed - carries the same weight at the actual text of the Constitution.

Regardless of one's position on abortion, RvW was one of the worst examples of "legislating from the bench" in U.S. history. It is a legal and Constitutional abomination.
 

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Do the right thing, SC. Abortion is murder.
 

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That of course is Moloch cult mythology.

You can show no law or statute from America stating anything like you claim.
Prior to 1880 there were no laws against abortion before the quickening, if you can find any the post them.
 

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Never forget, the Abortion issue has been a cash cow for various Leftist organizations for half a century.

It is almost funny in USSC confirmation hearings when Leftist Senators try to get candidates to confirm the view that judge-made law - even if flawed - carries the same weight at the actual text of the Constitution.

Regardless of one's position on abortion, RvW was one of the worst examples of "legislating from the bench" in U.S. history. It is a legal and Constitutional abomination.
Show us the law in the Constitution banning abortion.
 
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6. "Background on Dobbs v. Jackson​

In 2018, Mississippi enacted the Gestational Age Act, which protects unborn children after 15 weeks’ gestation (a typical pregnancy lasts 40 weeks), with exceptions for a medical emergency or a severe fetal abnormality.

The state sought to enact a policy that protects unborn children, women, and the integrity of the medical profession, citing scientific facts about prenatal development and the numerous health risks associated with abortion.

Pro-abortion advocates promptly challenged the law, and under current Supreme Court precedent—in which a “court must follow earlier judicial decisions when the same points arise again in litigation”—lower courts blocked the law from going into effect. In June 2020, Mississippi appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, and in May 2021, the Supreme Court agreed to hear the case."
 

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If murder was such an issue then Gods wouldn't do it.
 

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R v. W is a wedge issue. An issue which the Republican Party uses to oppose in words and not in deeds.

When the R Party controlled both Chambers of Congress and had packed the court with conservatives, and with a Republican in the White House, not once did they come together to repeal R v. W.

Face it folks, the Republican Party puts Power over the People. Not only do the extremists oppose all abortions - rape and incest victims for example - when prenatal testing proves a less than viable fetus, one which will needs expensive life long care there is no way most American single Women and Families can bare.

They also oppose a curriculum in the Public Schools on health, which include age appropriate sections on Human Sexuality, oppose the use of contraceptives, and put pressure on health insurance companies to not provide for contraceptives.
 
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R v. W is a wedge issue. An issue which the Republican Party uses to oppose in words and not in deeds.

When the R Party controlled both Chambers of Congress and had packed the court with conservatives, and with a Republican in the White House, not once did they come together to repeal R v. W.

Face it folks, the Republican Party puts Power over the People. Not only do the extremists oppose all abortions - rape and incest victims for example - when prenatal testing proves a less than viable fetus, one which will needs expensive life long care there is no way most American single Women and Families can bare.

They also oppose a curriculum in the Public Schools on health, which include age appropriate sections on Human Sexuality, oppose the use of contraceptives, and put pressure on health insurance companies to not provide for contraceptives.



Let's see how accurate you've been in the past:



You wrote this about Senator Joseph McCarthy….



“He was a drunk and an asshole who claimed IKE was a commie and like you assassinated the character of other people in Government, Hollywood and other prominent and regular others. In fact his use of ad hominems was the precursor of today's Republican Party and people like you.” The Cancel Culture Has Always Been In Play post #8







But when I challenged you to name any….any individuals he wrongly attacked who were innocent….you didn’t, you couldn’t.

You simply hiked up your skirt and scampered away.

You simply trade in lies and propaganda.

Would you like to apologize?
 
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7. "The Question Before the Court​

Dobbs v. Jackson presents the Supreme Court with one straightforward question: Are all pre-viability bans on elective abortion unconstitutional (that is, can states protect unborn children before they are able to survive outside the womb)?


In answering this question, the court must confront its earlier decisions like Roe w. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey. In Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court established the “viability rule,” that a state may prohibit abortion only after a child can survive outside the womb. In 1992, Planned Parenthood v. Casey affirmed that this is Roe v Wade’s “essential holding,” adding that a state may not impose an “undue burden” on a woman’s right to have an abortion."



How about a consideration of this question:
What possible compelling government interest is implicit in allowing the murder of an innocent human being??? What governmental need could this represent????


Where are Democrat answers to this question?????
 
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'Supreme Court To Carefully Consider Pros, Cons Of Baby Murder
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November 30th, 2021 - BabylonBee.com
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WASHINGTON, D.C.—The Supreme Court is hearing arguments on abortion law this week, where they will carefully weigh the pros and cons of murdering babies with metal tearing instruments and high-powered vacuums.

"Man, this is a tough one! Maybe we should make a list of pros and cons," said Chief Justice Roberts, according to sources. "Can we end baby murder while staying true to our lofty and convoluted jurisprudence? However we decide this case, we must remember what's truly important: our political reputations."

"Um," said Kavanaugh, "I guess 'babies not being murdered' would go in the 'pro' column."
"Yeah, but then CNN might say something bad about us," said Roberts. "That's definitely a 'con'."
Justices Kagan and Sotomayor disagreed, insisting that 'babies not being murdered' should be in the "con" column instead.

The justices went back and forth on the deep complexities of tearing preborn human beings limb from limb, crushing their skulls, and sucking their remains out with a suction device. As they debated, the collected spiritual forces of darkness, such as snarling demons and CNN news crews, descended on the Supreme Court building to voice their opinion that the blood sacrifice of the unborn before the altar of American narcissistic consumerism must be allowed to continue.

The justices are expected to debate this very complex and difficult moral issue until they decide whether they want to guarantee Constitutional protections to all human beings or not."
 

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Expecting a modern first world non Moslem nation to ban abortion outright is not realistic.
 

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Abortion was never against the law in the US until 1887..Abortions were allowed up until the quickening, why is this such an issue now?
Via advances in modern science, we now know that an individual human being's lifespan begins at conception.

Why do LWNJ's always ignore hard science?
 

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For one most Americans support abortion for rape and incest or medical emergency reasons. And America is not a theocracy. So I do not see it happening.
 

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