Debunking the WTC 9/11 Molten Steel Argument

[Toro]

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[eots]

DEBUNKING JACKSHIT...NICE TRY

911 Molten Metal - Who is lying? FDNY eyewitnesses or NIST?

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Aug. 21, 2007 - Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation featured the statement of James Quintiere, Ph.D., one of the world's leading fire science researchers.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7802

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Eots is this one of your Col's?....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080212/ap_on_re_us/air_force_rape

Just curious since you have made a history here of claiming that the mere presence of rank equates to something other than what it means.

 

[Steerpike]

RGS:

Do you actually think you're dealing with someone who wants to know the truth?

 

[eots]

Eots is this one of your Col's?....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080212/ap_on_re_us/air_force_rape

Just curious since you have made a history here of claiming that the mere presence of rank equates to something other than what it means.

what a moron.. the experience service and expertise of the "patriots question" is top level with a lifetime of service and there are a 100 of them not one. it is you and your buddy's response that seeks to avoid the truth ..so in rgs world top level NASA scientist ,aircraft crash investigators ,heads of the uranium enrichment programs etc etc are all deluded soldiers and the eyewitness NYFD also deluded

 

[Bern80]

what a moron.. the experience service and expertise of the "patriots question" is top level with a lifetime of service and there are a 100 of them not one. it is you and your buddy's response that seeks to avoid the truth ..so in rgs world top level NASA scientist ,aircraft crash investigators ,heads of the uranium enrichment programs etc etc are all deluded soldiers and the eyewitness NYFD also deluded

Simple question for the conspiracy theorists: Is there any condition under which you would accept that the events that transpired is pretty much what has been widely reported (3 planes crashed into buildings, hijacked by muslims, WTC collapsiing due to damage from planes, etc.)? This requires a soul searching honest answer. Only you know if your answer is honest or not.

The thing with conspiraccy theorists is the answer to that question is either yes, in which case their lieing to themselves and not the objective people they claim to be or the answer is no (that would be the being honest part) in which case there is no point in debateing with someone whos belief isn't based in reason.

 

[Toro]

No.

 

[Helios]

Simple question for the conspiracy theorists: Is there any condition under which you would accept that the events that transpired is pretty much what has been widely reported (3 planes crashed into buildings, hijacked by muslims, WTC collapsiing due to damage from planes, etc.)? This requires a soul searching honest answer. Only you know if your answer is honest or not.

I think you got mixed up. Yes would be right answer here, there IS conditions under which I could accept events transpired as reported. These conditions would include a professional unbiased investigation, declassification of the Pentagon tapes and official responses to the issues that have been brought up about the "official theory."

 

[eots]

Simple question for the conspiracy theorists: Is there any condition under which you would accept that the events that transpired is pretty much what has been widely reported (3 planes crashed into buildings, hijacked by muslims, WTC collapsiing due to damage from planes, etc.)? This requires a soul searching honest answer. Only you know if your answer is honest or not.

The thing with conspiraccy theorists is the answer to that question is either yes, in which case their lieing to themselves and not the objective people they claim to be or the answer is no (that would be the being honest part) in which case there is no point in debateing with someone whos belief isn't based in reason.

its the other way around the conclusion that the official story is not true based on evidence and expert analyses . believing the white house story is based on faith and emotion.. its like we are asking to look at the fact you mother who raised you and loved you is the one burying murder victims in the basement and you will go to great lengths of denial to not even consider it...the nist dosent even beilive the white house story !

 

[Bern80]

its the other way around the conclusion that the official story is not true based on evidence and expert analyses . believing the white house story is based on faith and emotion.. its like we are asking to look at the fact you mother who raised you and loved you is the one burying murder victims in the basement and you will go to great lengths of denial to not even consider it...the nist dosent even beilive the white house story !

It is the quote 'white house story' I believe. It's scientists who have studied the evidence.

 

[eots]

It is the quote 'white house story' I believe. It's scientists who have studied the evidence.

yes and here is what the lead investigator form nist for the last 6yrs has to say

James Quintiere, Ph.D.

James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), has called for an independent review of NIST’s investigation into the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11.



Dr. Quintiere made his plea during his presentation, “Questions on the WTC Investigations” at the 2007 World Fire Safety Conference. “I wish that there would be a peer review of this,” he said, referring to the NIST investigation. “I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they’ve done; both structurally and from a fire point of view.”

“I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable,” explained Dr. Quintiere. “Let's look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Towers and how that relates to the official cause and what's the significance of one cause versus another.”

Dr. Quintiere, one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, also encouraged his audience of fellow researchers and engineers to scientifically re-examine the WTC collapses. “I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way,” he said.

In his hour-long presentation, Dr. Quintiere discussed many elements of NIST’s investigation that he found problematic. He emphasized, “In every investigation I’ve taken part in, the key has been to establish a timeline. And the timeline is established by witness accounts, by information from alarm systems, by any video that you might have of the event, and then by calculations. And you try to put all of this together. And if your calculations are consistent with some of these hard facts, then perhaps you can have some comfort in the results of your calculations. I have not seen a timeline placed in the NIST report.”

Dr. Quintiere also expressed his frustration at NIST’s failure to provide a report on the third skyscraper that collapsed on 9/11, World Trade Center Building 7. “And that building was not hit by anything,” noted Dr. Quintiere. “It’s more important to take a look at that. Maybe there was damage by the debris falling down that played a significant role. But other than that you had fires burning a long time without fire department intervention. And firefighters were in that building. I have yet to see any kind of story about what they saw. What was burning? Were photographs taken? Nothing!”

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_070820_former_chief_of_nist.htm

 

[Toro]

Continuing on eots article.

Although Dr. Quintiere was strongly critical of NIST’s conclusions and its investigatory process, he made it clear he was not a supporter of theories that the Twin Towers were brought down by pre-planted explosives. “If you go to World Trade Center One, nine minutes before its collapse, there was a line of smoke that puffed out. This is one of the basis of the ‘conspiracy theories’ that says the smoke puffing out all around the building is due to somebody setting off an explosive charge. Well, I think, more likely, it’s one of the floors falling down.”

I'll say this before and I'll say it again - simply because the government f****d up some things does not mean the government was involved in 9/11.

 

[eots]

Continuing on eots article.



I'll say this before and I'll say it again - simply because the government f****d up some things does not mean the government was involved in 9/11.

imagine the position he is in ..bottom line the official story needs a real open investigation with peer review

Dr. Quintiere also expressed his frustration at NIST’s failure to provide a report on the third skyscraper that collapsed on 9/11, World Trade Center Building 7. “And that building was not hit by anything,” noted Dr. Quintiere. “It’s more important to take a look at that. Maybe there was damage by the debris falling down that played a significant role. But other than that you had fires burning a long time without fire department intervention. And firefighters were in that building. I have yet to see any kind of story about what they saw. What was burning? Were photographs taken? Nothing!”

 

[nibor]

They just don't build super sky scrapers the way they build sugar silos!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bern80]

imagine the position he is in ..bottom line the official story needs a real open investigation with peer review

Dr. Quintiere also expressed his frustration at NIST’s failure to provide a report on the third skyscraper that collapsed on 9/11, World Trade Center Building 7. “And that building was not hit by anything,” noted Dr. Quintiere. “It’s more important to take a look at that. Maybe there was damage by the debris falling down that played a significant role. But other than that you had fires burning a long time without fire department intervention. And firefighters were in that building. I have yet to see any kind of story about what they saw. What was burning? Were photographs taken? Nothing!”

I can completely agree that there should be complete transparency in an investigation of that magnitude. Maybe what we've told isn't accurate or maybe the story presented isn't exactley honest. What you have to see though is that there is a big difference in the goal of finding the truth and makeing the leap that because you don't believe the facts jive that it was inside government job.

 

[eots]

I can completely agree that there should be complete transparency in an investigation of that magnitude. Maybe what we've told isn't accurate or maybe the story presented isn't exactley honest. What you have to see though is that there is a big difference in the goal of finding the truth and makeing the leap that because you don't believe the facts jive that it was inside government job.

the independent researchers would welcome and in fact petition and demand an investigation and have no problem putting there names to it

We want truthful answers to questions such as:

Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?
Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Pentagon not activated during the attack?
Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to complete his elementary school visit, apparently unconcerned about his safety or that of the schoolchildren?
Why hasn't a single person been fired, penalized, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?
Why haven't authorities in the U.S. and abroad published the results of multiple investigations into trading that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the 9/11 attacks, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of traceable gains?
Why has Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Ashcroft and granted by a Bush-appointed judge?
How could Flight 77, which reportedly hit the Pentagon, have flown back towards Washington D.C. for 40 minutes without being detected by the FAA's radar or the even superior radar possessed by the US military?
How were the FBI and CIA able to release the names and photos of the alleged hijackers within hours, as well as to visit houses, restaurants, and flight schools they were known to frequent?
What happened to the over 20 documented warnings given our government by 14 foreign intelligence agencies or heads of state?
Why did the Bush administration cover up the fact that the head of the Pakistani intelligence agency was in Washington the week of 9/11 and reportedly had $100,000 wired to Mohamed Atta, considered the ringleader of the hijackers?
Why did the 911 Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?
Why was Philip Zelikow chosen to be the Executive Director of the ostensibly independent 911 Commission although he had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice?
Those who are demanding deeper inquiry now number in the hundreds of thousands, including a former member of the first Bush administration, a retired Air Force colonel, a European parliamentarian, families of the victims, highly respected authors, investigative journalists, peace and justice leaders, former Pentagon staff, and the National Green Party.

As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:

An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry.
Given the importance of the coming election, we feel it is imperative that these questions be addressed publicly, honestly, and rigorously so that Americans may exercise their democratic rights with full awareness.

In closing, we pray and hope for the strength to approach this subject with wisdom and compassion so that we may heal from the wounds inflicted on that terrible day.

Signed,

Signatories

Note: All organizations are mentioned for identification purposes only. Individuals have signed this statement as an act of their own conscience, not to signify organizational endorsement.

Virginia Deane Abernethy, Ph.D., anthropologist, author, Population Politics
Ed Asner, actor, activist
Marshall Auerback, international portfolio strategist for David W. Tice & Associates, Inc.
Catherine Austin Fitts, Asst. Secretary of Housing in the first Bush administration
Keidi Obi Awadu, aka The Conscious Rasta, talk show host, LIBRadio
Michael Badnarik, Libertarian candidate for President
Byron Belitsos, publisher, Origin Press, author Planetary Democracy
Philip J. Berg, Esquire, former deputy attorney general, Pennsylvania
Medea Benjamin, activist, author, co-founder, Global Exchange and Code Pink
Dennis Bernstein, investigative reporter, radio host of KPFA's Flashpoints
Steve Bhaerman aka Swami Beyondananda, author, political comedian
Brad Blanton, Ph.D., psychotherapist, author, Radical Honesty
Saniel Bonder, spiritual teacher and author, Great Relief
Dr. Robert Bowman, USAF Lt. Col. (Rtd.), founder, Institute for Space and Security Studies
John Buchanan, author, candidate for the Republican Party Presidential nomination, 2004
Gray Brechin, Ph.D., author, environmental historian, professor, UC Berkeley
Fred Burks, presidential interpreter for Bush, Clinton, Cheney, and Gore
Norma Carr-Rufino, Ph.D., author, professor of management, San Francisco State University
Angana Chatterji, Ph.D., scholar-activist and professor of anthropology
Paul Cienfuegos, co-founder, Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County
David Cobb, attorney, national presidential candidate, US Green Party
John Cobb, Ph.D., theologian, co-author, For the Common Good
Ernest Callenbach, founder/editor, Film Quarterly, author, Ecotopia
Kevin Danaher, Ph.D., author, speaker, co-founder, Global Exchange
Stephen Dinan, author, Radical Spirit
Ronnie Dugger, journalist/author, co-founder, Alliance for Democracy
Daniel Ellsberg, author, Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers
Jodie Evans, co-founder, Code Pink
Richard Falk, Professor Emeritus of International Law, Princeton University
Michael Franti, musician, filmmaker, human rights worker
Janeane Garofalo, actress, comedienne, talk show host, Air America Radio
Jim Garrison, Ph.D., president, State of the World Forum, author, America as Empire
Bruce Gagnon, Chair, Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
Ric Giardina, author, consultant, speaker, former Director of Trademarks and Brands for Intel
John Gray, Ph.D., #1 bestselling author, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus
Stan Goff, 25-year Army Special Ops veteran, author, Full Spectrum Disorder
Melvin Goodman, senior fellow, Center for International Policy, author, former Senior Analyst, CIA, professor, National War College
Morton Goulder, Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter
David Ray Griffin, Ph.D., theologian, author, New Pearl Harbor
Doris "Granny D" Haddock, campaign finance crusader, NH Democratic candidate for Senate
Thom Hartmann, radio host; author, Unequal Protection
Richie Havens, singer, songwriter, performer, artist
Paul Hawken, bestselling author, environmentalist, entrepreneur, founder of Smith & Hawken
Randy Hayes, founder, Rainforest Action Network, US National Director, Direction Conservation
Richard Heinberg, author, The Party's Over, core faculty, New College of California
Van Jones, executive director, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
Rob Kall, editor, OpEdNews.com, president, Futurehealth, Inc.
Georgia Kelly, executive director, Praxis Peace Institute
Sean Kelly, Ph.D., author, professor of philosophy and religion, CA Institute of Integral Studies
John Joseph Kennedy, Democratic Write-in Presidential Candidate for 2004
Mimi Kennedy, actress, Dharma and Greg, progressive activist
Faiz Khan, M.D., Triage Emergency Physician on 9/11, Assistant Imam
David Korten, author, When Corporations Rule the World
Frances Moore Lapp?, author, Diet for a Small Planet; founder, Small Planet Institute
Scott M. Legere, 25 year radio broadcaster as Scott Ledger, Tampa FL
Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, TIKKUN Magazine, author, Healing Israel/Palestine
Michael Levine, bestselling author of Deep Cover, journalist, 25-year veteran of the DEA
Joanna Macy, Ph.D., eco-philosopher, author
Enver Masud, founder, The Wisdom Fund, author, The Truth About Islam
John McCarthy, former Special Forces Captain, president, Veterans Equal Rights Protection Advocacy
Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, co-founder, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
Cynthia McKinney, five-term Congresswoman from Georgia
Ralph Metzner, Ph.D., author, professor, co-founder, Green Earth Foundation
Mark Crispin Miller, media critic, author, professor, New York University
Joseph W. Montaperto, New York City Fire Department
Leuren Moret, geoscientist, radiation specialist, environmental commissioner
Ralph Nader, Independent candidate for President
Craig Neal, author, co-founder, The Heartland Institute, former publisher, Utne Reader
Jeff Norman, executive director, Tour of Duty
Jenna Orkin, Esquire, World Trade Center Environmental Organization
Kelly Patricia O'Meara, investigative journalist, public relations
Michael Parenti, Ph.D., author, Superpatriotism and The Terrorism Trap
Edward L. Peck, former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism
Peter Phillips, Ph.D., professor, Sonoma State University, director, Project Censored
Henri Poole, Internet pioneer, board member, Free Software Foundation
Robert Rabbin, author, speaker, creator of TruthForPresident.org
Paul H. Ray, Ph.D., sociologist, author, The Cultural Creatives
John Renesch, business futurist, author, Getting to the Better Future
John Rensenbrink, professor emeritus, Bowdoin College, co-founder, US Green Party
John Robbins, author, founder, EarthSave International
William Rodriguez, 9/11 rescue effort hero, founder, Hispanic Victims Group
Neal Rogin, Emmy-award winning writer, performer, social observer
Allen Roland, Ph.D., psychotherapist, published author and peace activist
Rosemary Radford Ruether, professor of feminist theology, Graduate Theological Union
Michael Ruppert, publisher/editor, From The Wilderness, author, Crossing the Rubicon
Chris Sanders, founder, Sanders Research Associates
Karl W. B. Schwarz, President, CEO, Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC
Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, author, Drugs, Oil, and War
Firefighter Kevin Shea, FDNY Hazmat Operations
Michelle Shocked, singer/songwriter, activist
Indira Singh, risk management and computer systems consultant
J. Michael Springmann, attorney, former Foreign Service Officer, US Department of State
Douglas Sturm, Ph.D., university professor emeritus, Bucknell University
Marjorie Hewit Suchocki, Ph.D., theologian, author
Chuck Turner, Boston City Council
James W. Walter Jr., venture investor, philanthropist, founder of Walden Three
Dan Whaley, E-commerce pioneer, founder of GetThere.com, acquired for $750M
Burns H. Weston, J.S.D., Professor of Law Emeritus, Director, Center for Human Rights, U-Iowa
Howard Zinn, professor, historian, author, A People's History of the United States
Family Members

Joanne Barbara, wife of FDNY Asst. Chief of Dept. Gerard Barbara
Gayle Barker, sister of William A. Karnes, WTC
Michele Bergsohn, wife of Alvin Bergsohn, Cantor Fitzgerald
Derrill Bodley, father of Deora Bodley, passenger on Flight 93
Kathryn C. Bowden, sister of Thomas H. Bowden, Jr. WTC1, 104th floor
Janet Calia, wife of Dominick Calia, Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC1
Maggie Cashman, wife of William Joseph Cashman, United Flight 93
Lynne Castrianno Galante, sister of Leonard Castrianno, 1WTC, 105th floor
Elza Chapa-McGowan, daughter of Rosemary Chapa, Pentagon
Bruce De Cell, father-in-law of Mark Petrocelli North Tower, 92nd floor
Ralph D'Esposito, father of Michael D'Esposito, WTC, 96th floor
Loisanne Diehl, Surviving Spouse, Michael D. Diehl, WTC2, 90th floor
Adina D. Eisenberg, sister of Eric Eisenberg, WTC
Jonathan M. Fisher, son of Dr. Gerald Paul "Geep" Fisher, Pentagon
Michael J. Fox, brother of Jeffrey L. Fox, Tower 2, 89th floor
Laurel A. Gay, sister of Peter A. Gay, AA Flight 11
Irene Golinsky, wife of Col. Ronald F. Golinski USA RET, Pentagon
Lori, Jerry, and Beatrice Guadagno, sister and parents of Richard Guadagno, Flight 93
Kristen Hall, daughter of fallen firefighter Thomas Kuveikis 9/11
Kurt D. Horning, father of Matthew D. Horning, WTC Tower One, 95th floor
Jennifer W. Hunt, wife of William C. Hunt, Euro Brokers
John Keating, son of Barbara Keating, passenger on AA Flight 11
L. Russell Keene II, father of Russ Keene III, WTC2, 89th floor, KBW
Peter Kousoulis, sister died in WTC
Paul & Barbara Kirwin, parents of Glenn Davis Kirwin, Cantor Fitzgerald 105th floor
Barbara Krukowski-Rastelli, mother of William E. Krukowski, NYC firefighter
Laura and Ira Lassman, parents of Nicholas C. Lassman, died in WTC, Tower One
Johnny Lee, husband of Lorraine Greene
Alicia LeGuillow, mother of Nestor A. Cintron III
Francine Levine, sister of Adam K. Ruhalter, who died on 9/11
Bob McIlvaine, father of Robert McIlvaine, WTC, Merrill Lynch
Mary McWilliams, mother of FF Martin E. McWilliams- Engine 22
Daryl J. Meehan, brother of Colleen Ann Barkow, WTC 1, 105th floor
Elvira P. Murphy, wife of Patrick Murphy, WTC 1
Natalee Pecorelli, sister of Thomas Pecorelli of Flight 11
James L Perry, M.D and Patricia J. Perry, parents of John W. Perry, Esq., NYPD Officer 9/11
David Potorti, brother of James Potorti, North Tower, WTC, Marsh & McLennan
Terry Kay Rockefeller, sister of Laura Rockefeller, North Tower, WTC
Grissel Rodriguez-Valentin, wife of Benito Valentin, WTC1, 94th floor
Alissa Rosenberg-Torres, widow of Luis Eduardo Torres, post-9/11 mother, writer
Elaine Saber, mother of Scott Saber
Julie Scarpitta, mother of Michelle Scarpitta, WTC Building 2, 84th floor
Paula Shapiro, mother of Eric Eisenberg, WTC2
Elizabeth Turner, wife of Simon Turner, lost on 11th September 2001
Adele Welty, mother of Firefighter Timothy Welty, FDNY, Squad 288
Joan W. Winton, mother of David Winton, WTC, South Tower, 89th floor
David Yancey, husband of Vicki Yancey, American Airlines Flight 77
Nissa Youngren, daughter of Robert G. LeBlanc, flight 175
Late Signatories (starting toward 200...)

Rita M. Haley, President, National Organization for Women, New York Chapter
Immortal Technique, Harlem-based hip-hop artist with Viper Records, Revolutionary I&II
Bob Kirkconnell, served in the U.S. Air Force 27 years, reaching the rank of Master Sergeant
Dennis Kyne, former Army air medic, 18th Airborne Corps during Gulf War I, musician, author, "Support the Truth"
Paul Landis, author, "Stop Bush Now!"
Eric H. May, former Army military intelligence officer and media essayist
Charles Shaw, Editor, Newtopia Magazine, National Peace Action Coordinator, National Green Party
Peter Erlinder, professor, William Mitchell College of Law, past-President National Lawyers Guild
Daniel Robert Rezac, 2004 Vice-Presidential Write-In Candidate, former Aviator & Armor Officer, Army National Guard, B.S.B.A.
Joel Horwitz, lost beloved cousin in WTC 1
Jessica Murrow, lost husband Stephen Adams, Beverage Manager, Windows on the World, WTC 1
Ellen Mariani, lost husband Neil on Flight 175
Jean Hunt, disabled survivor of Pentagon attack
Ralph & Brigitte Sabbag, lost son Jason in WTC 2

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[Bern80]

the independent researchers would welcome and in fact petition and demand an investigation and have no problem putting there names to it

We want truthful answers to questions such as:

Very few are gonna argue that we need to know the truth. Where people like you and people like me part ways is that it to many it is really clear that you're interested in a little more than the truth. You have an agenda bent on proving a conspiracy. Having the passion you obviously have for that makes it hard to be objective as those two states aren't real compatible. The evidence for that is in the very question below. Some are legit. Some scream of a pre-conceived conclusion. Many of them are rehtorical questions that dance around the pre-conceived notion that the government was actually the lead conspirator in the events of 9/11.

Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?

That's a legit question if true.

Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Pentagon not activated during the attack?

This is an example of a question from the conspiratorial bent. It requires that one know an awful lot of things to even be in a place to ask it. It assumes there are in fact missile batteries around the pentagon. It assumes some SOP was not followed and thus whoever posed the question would have to know what the standard SOP was for that situation.

Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to complete his elementary school visit, apparently unconcerned about his safety or that of the schoolchildren?

Again assumptions and the really big leap that the secret service was unconcerned, not sure how anyone could possibly know that. It assumes someone waited an awful long time to report the confirmed events to the President. Haveing a former roommate now in te secret service part of there job is to determine legitimate vs illegitimate threats. Again an awful lot needed to be known in order for someone to justifiably ask this question.

Why hasn't a single person been fired, penalized, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?

Again assumes said person(s) violated, intentional or otherwise some SOP. So first we would have to know what these were in order to hold someone accountable for violating them.

Why haven't authorities in the U.S. and abroad published the results of multiple investigations into trading that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the 9/11 attacks, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of traceable gains?

If they haven't been published how did we become aware of these allegations in the first place?

Why has Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Ashcroft and granted by a Bush-appointed judge?

fair question if true of course. If he's so adamant about the truth you'd think he'd be talking regardless of the consequences.

How could Flight 77, which reportedly hit the Pentagon, have flown back towards Washington D.C. for 40 minutes without being detected by the FAA's radar or the even superior radar possessed by the US military?

Again assumes an awful lot. Starting with, if true, the presumption is human nefariousness rather than technical failure.

How were the FBI and CIA able to release the names and photos of the alleged hijackers within hours, as well as to visit houses, restaurants, and flight schools they were known to frequent?

legitmate question, but one that has many far more plausible answers than government inside job.

What happened to the over 20 documented warnings given our government by 14 foreign intelligence agencies or heads of state?

I have to ask who found out about them in the first place? Again why aren't they talking? If true why should a trust the source?

Why did the Bush administration cover up the fact that the head of the Pakistani intelligence agency was in Washington the week of 9/11 and reportedly had $100,000 wired to Mohamed Atta, considered the ringleader of the hijackers?

The most plausible answer would be we didn't know that.

Why did the 911 Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?

not to be harsh but I don't think one of the priorities of the 911 commission was or should have been to provide closure for families of the victims.

Why was Philip Zelikow chosen to be the Executive Director of the ostensibly independent 911 Commission although he had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice?

Reading between the lines the suggestion is that co-authoring a book with Condi should somehow, in of itself disqualify him from the job? Why?

 

[eots]

these are not my questions these are the questions of the signatories of the petition who's combined credentials and experience is overwhelming

 

[Bern80]

these are not my questions these are the questions of the signatories of the petition who's combined credentials and experience is overwhelming

You can have all the credentials in the world. It doesn't mean you don't have an agenda or even a few screws loose. You spend all this time telling me to be objecitve and this is the short response I get. Come on man.

So other people asked them. I never claimed you did. What I'm saying you need to ask, Mr. Objectivity is if these are legitimate questions, or rhetorical questions with an agenda and/or specific mindset behind them.

 

[eots]

You can have all the credentials in the world. It doesn't mean you don't have an agenda or even a few screws loose. You spend all this time telling me to be objecitve and this is the short response I get. Come on man.

So other people asked them. I never claimed you did. What I'm saying you need to ask, Mr. Objectivity is if these are legitimate questions, or rhetorical questions with an agenda and/or specific mindset behind them.

then I think you need to read the list some more .it is your argument that is unsound. one could have a army of educated and experienced and simply dismiss it all to no end using your logic .we counted on these men and woman to head are uranium enrichment projects .lead NASA projects commanding generals,milatery crash experts, top level CIA and FBI agents etc etc.. and there's not just one or two of them they have served with honor through multiple administrations i really don't believe they are all mentally ill or in a conspiracy with a agenda they have little if anything to gain and much to lose and the most disturbing part of it all to you should be why are you getting this info from eots., I have viewed independent films that feature these statements and they state this is the only voice they have ,they cant get a 5 min interview in the controlled media..no Glen Beck no Oriely or Anderson Cooper. they only want to talk to easy to dismiss celebrity's and shills that claim to represent those calling for a real investigation to come and talk about holograms..doesn't this raise a red flag for you..don't you question...why

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