The NIST 9-11 Report on the WTC Collapse

[LA RAM FAN]

agent Gam never has any answers for the fact that these buildings were much closer to the towers with far more extensive damage done to them and far more severe fires yet they did not collapse.

Politician in post# 234 on that link spells it out for him dummies style.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...question-for-the-911-conspiracy-buffs-16.html

this video also proves the fires were more severe in those other buildings yet they did not collapse,the trolls never have any answers for these facts.they ignore it.

 

[daws101]

http://www.911myths.com/WTCREPORT.pdf
newtonian physics aka classical mechanics ..do not operate independently from non newtonian physics...

wow thats pretty smart stuff!

it splains collapses really good!

Now is there anything in particular in there that you think makes your case because posting a fucking library pointing the answer is there is a non answer.

So if you think you have a pertinent point to make make it because if da ciperins dun right day look da same and day dunna lok da same and nist is hiding dar cipherin from from us.



further more nist agreed that it freefell



and your friend gamorons errors, that twisted stupid shit about going into freefall then not then stopping and starting again and other trougher misunderstandings in charting were pointed out.

So dog right back to your own vomit.

the only thing that made any sense in your post was nist agreed that (and this is where you and the facts part company) is for 2.5 SECONDS some of wtc7 was in freefall.
the reality is who cares .
you have no evidence proving that tiny amount of time in freefall was anything more other than what should happen when a building constructed like wtc7 was is damaged by impact and fire..
there is no company (that I know of ) that studies freefall time when buildings are demoed.

 

[daws101]

That chart you posted is right on man! Unfortunately, what it really means and your description of it don't match up.

Beginning with the upper left corner of the chart you posted (if you can find it) is the start, or foundation, of Newtonian mechanics. It's from that (Newtonian) foundation that all the other categories in the chart are derived and they are all sub-fields of Newtonian mechanics, hence they are all Newtonian.

Are you some kind of internet masochist or something? Because you're getting the shit beat out of you on a regular basis now and it almost seems you're enjoying it!

really?that's funny as nothing you said or posted has proven me wrong...
as getting the shit kicked out of me ...that's a shared masturbation fantasy with all you twoofers..
you seem to forget in 12 years you tin asshats have proven nothing...

 

[daws101]

where is mr. Jones in all this?

sister jones left the site in shame....

 

[daws101]

Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.

In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses. According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings. This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert.

For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected. Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches, which produces noxious and odorous fumes. Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.

Is it possible that thermite or thermate contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

NIST has looked at the application and use of thermite and has determined that its use to sever columns in WTC 7 on 9/11/01 was unlikely.

Thermite is a combination of aluminum powder and a metal oxide that releases a tremendous amount of heat when ignited. It is typically used to weld railroad rails together by melting a small quantity of steel and pouring the melted steel into a form between the two rails.

To apply thermite to a large steel column, approximately 0.13 lb of thermite would be needed to heat and melt each pound of steel. For a steel column that weighs approximately 1,000 lbs. per foot, at least 100 lbs. of thermite would need to be placed around the column, ignited, and remain in contact with the vertical steel surface as the thermite reaction took place. This is for one column . presumably, more than one column would have been prepared with thermite, if this approach were to be used.

It is unlikely that 100 lbs. of thermite, or more, could have been carried into WTC 7 and placed around columns without being detected, either prior to Sept. 11 or during that day.

Given the fires that were observed that day, and the demonstrated structural response to the fires, NIST does not believe that thermite was used to fail any columns in WTC 7.

Analysis of the WTC steel for the elements in thermite/thermate would not necessarily have been conclusive. The metal compounds also would have been present in the construction materials making up the WTC buildings, and sulfur is present in the gypsum wallboard used for interior partitions.

An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn't that evidence that there was an explosion?

The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building. If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder-located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7-would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account.

In June 2009, NIST began releasing documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request from the International Center for 9/11 Studies for "all of the photographs and videos collected, reviewed, cited or in any other way used by NIST during its investigation of the World Trade Center building collapses." One of the items released, a video obtained from NBC News , shows World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7) in the moments before it collapsed, then cuts to the collapse already in progress, with the building's east penthouse "disappearing" from the scene (as it had already fallen in the intervening time). Other videos of the WTC 7 collapse show the penthouse falling first, followed by the rest of the building. Did NIST edit the NBC News video to remove the collapse of the penthouse?

The video footage released under the FOIA request was copied from the original video exactly as it was received from NBC News, with video documentation of the WTC 7 east penthouse collapse missing. The footage was not edited in any way by NIST.

Did fuel oil systems in WTC 7 contribute to its collapse?

No. The building had three separate emergency power systems, all of which ran on diesel fuel. The worst-case scenarios associated with fires being fed by ruptured fuel lines-or from fuel stored in day tanks on the lower floors-could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated sufficient heat to weaken critical interior columns, and/or would have produced large amounts of visible smoke from the lower floors, which were not observed.

As background information, the three systems contained two 12,000 gallon fuel tanks, and two 6,000 gallon tanks beneath the building's loading docks, and a single 6,000 gallon tank on the 1st floor. In addition one system used a 275 gallon tank on the 5th floor, a 275 gallon tank on the 8th floor, and a 50 gallon tank on the 9th floor. Another system used a 275 gallon day tank on the 7th floor.

Several months after the WTC 7 collapse, a contractor recovered an estimated 23,000 gallons of fuel from these tanks. NIST estimated that the unaccounted fuel totaled 1,000 ±1,000 gallons of fuel (in other words, somewhere between 0 and 2,000 gallons, with 1,000 gallons the most likely figure). The fate of the fuel in the day tanks was unknown, so NIST assumed the worst-case scenario, namely that they were full on Sept. 11, 2001. The fate of the fuel of two 6,000 gallon tanks was also unknown. Therefore, NIST also assumed the worst-case scenario for these tanks, namely that all of the fuel would have been available to feed fires either at ground level or on the 5th floor.
Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation

 

[daws101]

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[KokomoJojo]

Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.

In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses. According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings. This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert.

For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected. Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches, which produces noxious and odorous fumes. Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.

Is it possible that thermite or thermate contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

NIST has looked at the application and use of thermite and has determined that its use to sever columns in WTC 7 on 9/11/01 was unlikely.

Thermite is a combination of aluminum powder and a metal oxide that releases a tremendous amount of heat when ignited. It is typically used to weld railroad rails together by melting a small quantity of steel and pouring the melted steel into a form between the two rails.

To apply thermite to a large steel column, approximately 0.13 lb of thermite would be needed to heat and melt each pound of steel. For a steel column that weighs approximately 1,000 lbs. per foot, at least 100 lbs. of thermite would need to be placed around the column, ignited, and remain in contact with the vertical steel surface as the thermite reaction took place. This is for one column . presumably, more than one column would have been prepared with thermite, if this approach were to be used.

It is unlikely that 100 lbs. of thermite, or more, could have been carried into WTC 7 and placed around columns without being detected, either prior to Sept. 11 or during that day.

Given the fires that were observed that day, and the demonstrated structural response to the fires, NIST does not believe that thermite was used to fail any columns in WTC 7.

Analysis of the WTC steel for the elements in thermite/thermate would not necessarily have been conclusive. The metal compounds also would have been present in the construction materials making up the WTC buildings, and sulfur is present in the gypsum wallboard used for interior partitions.

An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn't that evidence that there was an explosion?

The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building. If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder-located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7-would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account.

In June 2009, NIST began releasing documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request from the International Center for 9/11 Studies for "all of the photographs and videos collected, reviewed, cited or in any other way used by NIST during its investigation of the World Trade Center building collapses." One of the items released, a video obtained from NBC News , shows World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7) in the moments before it collapsed, then cuts to the collapse already in progress, with the building's east penthouse "disappearing" from the scene (as it had already fallen in the intervening time). Other videos of the WTC 7 collapse show the penthouse falling first, followed by the rest of the building. Did NIST edit the NBC News video to remove the collapse of the penthouse?

The video footage released under the FOIA request was copied from the original video exactly as it was received from NBC News, with video documentation of the WTC 7 east penthouse collapse missing. The footage was not edited in any way by NIST.

Did fuel oil systems in WTC 7 contribute to its collapse?

No. The building had three separate emergency power systems, all of which ran on diesel fuel. The worst-case scenarios associated with fires being fed by ruptured fuel lines-or from fuel stored in day tanks on the lower floors-could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated sufficient heat to weaken critical interior columns, and/or would have produced large amounts of visible smoke from the lower floors, which were not observed.

As background information, the three systems contained two 12,000 gallon fuel tanks, and two 6,000 gallon tanks beneath the building's loading docks, and a single 6,000 gallon tank on the 1st floor. In addition one system used a 275 gallon tank on the 5th floor, a 275 gallon tank on the 8th floor, and a 50 gallon tank on the 9th floor. Another system used a 275 gallon day tank on the 7th floor.

Several months after the WTC 7 collapse, a contractor recovered an estimated 23,000 gallons of fuel from these tanks. NIST estimated that the unaccounted fuel totaled 1,000 ±1,000 gallons of fuel (in other words, somewhere between 0 and 2,000 gallons, with 1,000 gallons the most likely figure). The fate of the fuel in the day tanks was unknown, so NIST assumed the worst-case scenario, namely that they were full on Sept. 11, 2001. The fate of the fuel of two 6,000 gallon tanks was also unknown. Therefore, NIST also assumed the worst-case scenario for these tanks, namely that all of the fuel would have been available to feed fires either at ground level or on the 5th floor.
Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation

Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully.


Wow kool!

POST THE FULL SCOPE OF ALL TESTS AND RESULTS.


NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.


AGAIN POST THE FULL SCOPE OF ALL TESTS AND RESULTS IN SUPPORT OF THAT CONCLUSION.

In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses.


THAT IS PATENTLY FALSE, SEVERAL VIDEOS RECORDED BLASTS AND WITNESSES STATEMENTS WERE MADE.


According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings.


DECEPTIVE REPORTING! A MUFFLED CUTTER WOULD HARDLY BE DETECTABLE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert.


GUNSHOT BLASTS CAN BE COMPLETELY MUFFLED BUT CUTTERS CANT? WHOS DREAM WORLD DID THAT TURD DROP FROM?

For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected.


PROVE IT, AGAIN POST ALL TESTS THAT LED TO THAT CONCLUSION.


Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches,


WRONG, NOT NECESSARY, PROVE IT IS NECESSARY POST THE STUDIES THAT IT IS REQUIRED.


which produces noxious and odorous fumes.


FRIVOLOUS ARGUMENT.


Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.


USUALLY? WHAT DOES IT REQUIRE WHEN ITS NOT USUAL, TEST RESULTS AND INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS PLEASE.

Is it possible that thermite or thermate contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?


YEP.

NIST has looked at the application and use of thermite and has determined that its use to sever columns in WTC 7 on 9/11/01 was unlikely.


UNLIKELY? WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF INVESTIGATING IS THAT? FRAUD ON ITS FACE. THEY ARE CHARTERED TO PRESENT ANSWERS NOT BULLSHIT.





POST THE STEPS AND TEST RESULTS USED BY NIST TO CONCLUDE IT WAS UNLIKELY.

Thermite is a combination of aluminum powder and a metal oxide


ITS ALSO A COMBINATION OF MAGNESIUM AND A METAL OXIDE



that releases a tremendous amount of heat when ignited.


THAT DOES NOT BEAR THE NAME THERMATE BUT CREATES SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER HEAT.


It is typically used to weld railroad rails together by melting a small quantity of steel and pouring the melted steel into a form between the two rails.


SO WHO GIVES A SHIT.

To apply thermite to a large steel column, approximately 0.13 lb of thermite would be needed to heat and melt each pound of steel. For a steel column that weighs approximately 1,000 lbs. per foot, at least 100 lbs. of thermite would need to be placed around the column, ignited, and remain in contact with the vertical steel surface as the thermite reaction took place. This is for one column . presumably, more than one column would have been prepared with thermite, if this approach were to be used.


SO YOU THINK THE COLUMS WERE 8 INCHES THICK? WTF KIND OF DECEPTIVE SHIT IS THAT? PROVE MAGNESIUM BASED THERMETIC MATERIAL WAS NOT USED. PROVIDE ALL TESTS, PROCEDURES AND RESULTS.

It is unlikely that 100 lbs. of thermite, or more, could have been carried into WTC 7 and placed around columns without being detected, either prior to Sept. 11 or during that day.


UNLIKELY? MORE GUESS AND HUCKEE GEE BY GOLLY GOODNESS GRACIOUS MILDRED FUCKTARD KOOLAIND? THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT POST AS YOUR FUCKING REBUTTAL? POST THE TESTS PROCEDURES AND RESULTS NIST USED TO COME TO THIS PROFESSIONAL CONCLUSION.







Given the fires that were observed that day, and the demonstrated structural response to the fires, NIST does not believe that thermite was used to fail any columns in WTC 7.


BELIEVE? MORE GUESS AND HUCKEE GEE BY GOLLY GOODNESS GRACIOUS MILDRED FUCKTARD KOOLAIND? THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT POST AS YOUR FUCKING REBUTTAL? POST THE TESTS PROCEDURES AND RESULTS NIST USED TO COME TO THIS PROFESSIONAL CONCLUSION.

Analysis of the WTC steel for the elements in thermite/thermate would not necessarily have been conclusive.


THATS WHAT WE PAY THEM FOR INCONCLUSIVE RESULTS.


The metal compounds also would have been present in the construction materials making up the WTC buildings, and sulfur is present in the gypsum wallboard used for interior partitions.


POST ALL ANALYSIS AND REPORTS SHOWING THE THE MAXIMUM PERCENTAGE OF SUT THAT COULD HAVE EXISTED AFTER SWEEPING THE FLOORS AND DUSTING THE FURNITURE AS COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT THAT EXISTED AFTER THE DEMOLITION.

An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn't that evidence that there was an explosion?

The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building.

SO SOMEONE WAS MEASURING THE SOUND LEVELS OUTSIDE THE BUILDING? GREAT POSTS ALL SOUND LEVEL MEASUREMENTS, INSTRUMENT POSITIONS, CALIBRATION RECORDS EQUIPMENT USED AND ANY OTHER BONAFIDE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT CONCLUSION.


If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder-located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7-would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account.


JENNINGS DID, BUT GOT DEAD TALKING ABOUT IT. NO LONGER DECEPTION AND GRADUATING TO BOLD FACE LIES NOW?

In June 2009, NIST began releasing documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request from the International Center for 9/11 Studies for "all of the photographs and videos collected, reviewed, cited or in any other way used by NIST during its investigation of the World Trade Center building collapses." One of the items released, a video obtained from NBC News , shows World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7) in the moments before it collapsed, then cuts to the collapse already in progress, with the building's east penthouse "disappearing" from the scene (as it had already fallen in the intervening time). Other videos of the WTC 7 collapse show the penthouse falling first, followed by the rest of the building. Did NIST edit the NBC News video to remove the collapse of the penthouse?


WELL ITS MOST LIKELY JUST A REALLY FREAK “COINCIDENCE”, NIST WOULD NEVER EDIT OF FALSIFY INFORMATION DESPITE THE FACT THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUSTED SEVERAL TIMES DOING SO.


The video footage released under the FOIA request was copied from the original video exactly as it was received from NBC News, with video documentation of the WTC 7 east penthouse collapse missing. The footage was not edited in any way by NIST.


AH THERE YOU GO, SOMEONE ELSE EDITED IT FOR NIST, SEE I KNEW IT.

Did fuel oil systems in WTC 7 contribute to its collapse?

No. The building had three separate emergency power systems, all of which ran on diesel fuel. The worst-case scenarios associated with fires being fed by ruptured fuel lines-or from fuel stored in day tanks on the lower floors-could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated sufficient heat to weaken critical interior columns, and/or would have produced large amounts of visible smoke from the lower floors, which were not observed.


BUT OFFICE MATERIALS WOULD! POST THE TEST RESULTS

As background information,


SNIP IRRELEVANT

Several months after the WTC 7 collapse, a contractor recovered an estimated 23,000 gallons of fuel from these tanks. NIST estimated that the unaccounted fuel totaled 1,000 ±1,000 gallons of fuel (in other words, somewhere between 0 and 2,000 gallons, with 1,000 gallons the most likely figure). The fate of the fuel in the day tanks was unknown, so NIST assumed the worst-case scenario, namely that they were full on Sept. 11, 2001. The fate of the fuel of two 6,000 gallon tanks was also unknown.


SOMEONE STOLE IT AND FILLED THEIR HOME FUEL TANK UP SO THE FUCK WHAT.


Therefore, NIST also assumed the worst-case scenario for these tanks, namely that all of the fuel would have been available to feed fires either at ground level or on the 5th floor.


SO INVESTIGATION REPORTS ARE BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS NOW DAYS? HOW INTERESTING. WELL GET TO WORK AND PROVE UP YOUR CLAIMS.





YOUR BOY JOHNNY POSING SHOWING OFF THE EVIDENCE OF THE CRIME.

 

[E.L.C.]

Of course, it's just my opinion but....

Fraud Site!​

 

[daws101]

Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.

In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses. According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings. This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert.

For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected. Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches, which produces noxious and odorous fumes. Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.

Is it possible that thermite or thermate contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

NIST has looked at the application and use of thermite and has determined that its use to sever columns in WTC 7 on 9/11/01 was unlikely.

Thermite is a combination of aluminum powder and a metal oxide that releases a tremendous amount of heat when ignited. It is typically used to weld railroad rails together by melting a small quantity of steel and pouring the melted steel into a form between the two rails.

To apply thermite to a large steel column, approximately 0.13 lb of thermite would be needed to heat and melt each pound of steel. For a steel column that weighs approximately 1,000 lbs. per foot, at least 100 lbs. of thermite would need to be placed around the column, ignited, and remain in contact with the vertical steel surface as the thermite reaction took place. This is for one column . presumably, more than one column would have been prepared with thermite, if this approach were to be used.

It is unlikely that 100 lbs. of thermite, or more, could have been carried into WTC 7 and placed around columns without being detected, either prior to Sept. 11 or during that day.

Given the fires that were observed that day, and the demonstrated structural response to the fires, NIST does not believe that thermite was used to fail any columns in WTC 7.

Analysis of the WTC steel for the elements in thermite/thermate would not necessarily have been conclusive. The metal compounds also would have been present in the construction materials making up the WTC buildings, and sulfur is present in the gypsum wallboard used for interior partitions.

An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn't that evidence that there was an explosion?

The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building. If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder-located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7-would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account.

In June 2009, NIST began releasing documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request from the International Center for 9/11 Studies for "all of the photographs and videos collected, reviewed, cited or in any other way used by NIST during its investigation of the World Trade Center building collapses." One of the items released, a video obtained from NBC News , shows World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7) in the moments before it collapsed, then cuts to the collapse already in progress, with the building's east penthouse "disappearing" from the scene (as it had already fallen in the intervening time). Other videos of the WTC 7 collapse show the penthouse falling first, followed by the rest of the building. Did NIST edit the NBC News video to remove the collapse of the penthouse?

The video footage released under the FOIA request was copied from the original video exactly as it was received from NBC News, with video documentation of the WTC 7 east penthouse collapse missing. The footage was not edited in any way by NIST.

Did fuel oil systems in WTC 7 contribute to its collapse?

No. The building had three separate emergency power systems, all of which ran on diesel fuel. The worst-case scenarios associated with fires being fed by ruptured fuel lines-or from fuel stored in day tanks on the lower floors-could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated sufficient heat to weaken critical interior columns, and/or would have produced large amounts of visible smoke from the lower floors, which were not observed.

As background information, the three systems contained two 12,000 gallon fuel tanks, and two 6,000 gallon tanks beneath the building's loading docks, and a single 6,000 gallon tank on the 1st floor. In addition one system used a 275 gallon tank on the 5th floor, a 275 gallon tank on the 8th floor, and a 50 gallon tank on the 9th floor. Another system used a 275 gallon day tank on the 7th floor.

Several months after the WTC 7 collapse, a contractor recovered an estimated 23,000 gallons of fuel from these tanks. NIST estimated that the unaccounted fuel totaled 1,000 ±1,000 gallons of fuel (in other words, somewhere between 0 and 2,000 gallons, with 1,000 gallons the most likely figure). The fate of the fuel in the day tanks was unknown, so NIST assumed the worst-case scenario, namely that they were full on Sept. 11, 2001. The fate of the fuel of two 6,000 gallon tanks was also unknown. Therefore, NIST also assumed the worst-case scenario for these tanks, namely that all of the fuel would have been available to feed fires either at ground level or on the 5th floor.
Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation

Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully.

edited for wall of text violation and sheer nonsense..
Link Each "Copy & Paste" to It's Source. Only paste a small to medium section of the material.

 

[daws101]

Of course, it's just my opinion but....

Fraud Site!​

another classic twooferism when getting your ass handed to you....don't let the door hit on the ass on your way out!

 

[KokomoJojo]

Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation

edited for wall of text violation and sheer nonsense..
Link Each "Copy & Paste" to It's Source. Only paste a small to medium section of the material.


Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully.


Wow kool!

POST THE FULL SCOPE OF ALL TESTS AND RESULTS.


NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.


AGAIN POST THE FULL SCOPE OF ALL TESTS AND RESULTS IN SUPPORT OF THAT CONCLUSION.

In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses.


THAT IS PATENTLY FALSE, SEVERAL VIDEOS RECORDED BLASTS AND WITNESSES STATEMENTS WERE MADE.


According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings.


DECEPTIVE REPORTING! A MUFFLED CUTTER WOULD HARDLY BE DETECTABLE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert.


GUNSHOT BLASTS CAN BE COMPLETELY MUFFLED BUT CUTTERS CANT? WHOS DREAM WORLD DID THAT TURD DROP FROM?

For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected.


PROVE IT, AGAIN POST ALL TESTS THAT LED TO THAT CONCLUSION.


Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches,


WRONG, NOT NECESSARY, PROVE IT IS NECESSARY POST THE STUDIES THAT IT IS REQUIRED.


which produces noxious and odorous fumes.


FRIVOLOUS ARGUMENT.


Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.


USUALLY? WHAT DOES IT REQUIRE WHEN ITS NOT USUAL, TEST RESULTS AND INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS PLEASE.

Is it possible that thermite or thermate contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?


YEP.

NIST has looked at the application and use of thermite and has determined that its use to sever columns in WTC 7 on 9/11/01 was unlikely.


UNLIKELY? WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF INVESTIGATING IS THAT? FRAUD ON ITS FACE. THEY ARE CHARTERED TO PRESENT ANSWERS NOT BULLSHIT.





POST THE STEPS AND TEST RESULTS USED BY NIST TO CONCLUDE IT WAS UNLIKELY.

Thermite is a combination of aluminum powder and a metal oxide


ITS ALSO A COMBINATION OF MAGNESIUM AND A METAL OXIDE

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uace_eC1CWk"]Thermite + Magnesium - YouTube[/ame]

that releases a tremendous amount of heat when ignited.


THAT DOES NOT BEAR THE NAME THERMATE BUT CREATES SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER HEAT.


It is typically used to weld railroad rails together by melting a small quantity of steel and pouring the melted steel into a form between the two rails.


SO WHO GIVES A SHIT.

To apply thermite to a large steel column, approximately 0.13 lb of thermite would be needed to heat and melt each pound of steel. For a steel column that weighs approximately 1,000 lbs. per foot, at least 100 lbs. of thermite would need to be placed around the column, ignited, and remain in contact with the vertical steel surface as the thermite reaction took place. This is for one column . presumably, more than one column would have been prepared with thermite, if this approach were to be used.


SO YOU THINK THE COLUMS WERE 8 INCHES THICK? WTF KIND OF DECEPTIVE SHIT IS THAT? PROVE MAGNESIUM BASED THERMETIC MATERIAL WAS NOT USED. PROVIDE ALL TESTS, PROCEDURES AND RESULTS.

It is unlikely that 100 lbs. of thermite, or more, could have been carried into WTC 7 and placed around columns without being detected, either prior to Sept. 11 or during that day.


UNLIKELY? MORE GUESS AND HUCKEE GEE BY GOLLY GOODNESS GRACIOUS MILDRED FUCKTARD KOOLAIND? THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT POST AS YOUR FUCKING REBUTTAL? POST THE TESTS PROCEDURES AND RESULTS NIST USED TO COME TO THIS PROFESSIONAL CONCLUSION.







Given the fires that were observed that day, and the demonstrated structural response to the fires, NIST does not believe that thermite was used to fail any columns in WTC 7.


BELIEVE? MORE GUESS AND HUCKEE GEE BY GOLLY GOODNESS GRACIOUS MILDRED FUCKTARD KOOLAIND? THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT POST AS YOUR FUCKING REBUTTAL? POST THE TESTS PROCEDURES AND RESULTS NIST USED TO COME TO THIS PROFESSIONAL CONCLUSION.

Analysis of the WTC steel for the elements in thermite/thermate would not necessarily have been conclusive.


THATS WHAT WE PAY THEM FOR INCONCLUSIVE RESULTS.


The metal compounds also would have been present in the construction materials making up the WTC buildings, and sulfur is present in the gypsum wallboard used for interior partitions.


POST ALL ANALYSIS AND REPORTS SHOWING THE THE MAXIMUM PERCENTAGE OF SUT THAT COULD HAVE EXISTED AFTER SWEEPING THE FLOORS AND DUSTING THE FURNITURE AS COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT THAT EXISTED AFTER THE DEMOLITION.

An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn't that evidence that there was an explosion?

The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building.

SO SOMEONE WAS MEASURING THE SOUND LEVELS OUTSIDE THE BUILDING? GREAT POSTS ALL SOUND LEVEL MEASUREMENTS, INSTRUMENT POSITIONS, CALIBRATION RECORDS EQUIPMENT USED AND ANY OTHER BONAFIDE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT CONCLUSION.


If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder-located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7-would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account.


JENNINGS DID, BUT GOT DEAD TALKING ABOUT IT. NO LONGER DECEPTION AND GRADUATING TO BOLD FACE LIES NOW?

In June 2009, NIST began releasing documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request from the International Center for 9/11 Studies for "all of the photographs and videos collected, reviewed, cited or in any other way used by NIST during its investigation of the World Trade Center building collapses." One of the items released, a video obtained from NBC News , shows World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7) in the moments before it collapsed, then cuts to the collapse already in progress, with the building's east penthouse "disappearing" from the scene (as it had already fallen in the intervening time). Other videos of the WTC 7 collapse show the penthouse falling first, followed by the rest of the building. Did NIST edit the NBC News video to remove the collapse of the penthouse?


WELL ITS MOST LIKELY JUST A REALLY FREAK “COINCIDENCE”, NIST WOULD NEVER EDIT OF FALSIFY INFORMATION DESPITE THE FACT THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUSTED SEVERAL TIMES DOING SO.


The video footage released under the FOIA request was copied from the original video exactly as it was received from NBC News, with video documentation of the WTC 7 east penthouse collapse missing. The footage was not edited in any way by NIST.


AH THERE YOU GO, SOMEONE ELSE EDITED IT FOR NIST, SEE I KNEW IT.

Did fuel oil systems in WTC 7 contribute to its collapse?

No. The building had three separate emergency power systems, all of which ran on diesel fuel. The worst-case scenarios associated with fires being fed by ruptured fuel lines-or from fuel stored in day tanks on the lower floors-could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated sufficient heat to weaken critical interior columns, and/or would have produced large amounts of visible smoke from the lower floors, which were not observed.


BUT OFFICE MATERIALS WOULD! POST THE TEST RESULTS

As background information,


SNIP IRRELEVANT

Several months after the WTC 7 collapse, a contractor recovered an estimated 23,000 gallons of fuel from these tanks. NIST estimated that the unaccounted fuel totaled 1,000 ±1,000 gallons of fuel (in other words, somewhere between 0 and 2,000 gallons, with 1,000 gallons the most likely figure). The fate of the fuel in the day tanks was unknown, so NIST assumed the worst-case scenario, namely that they were full on Sept. 11, 2001. The fate of the fuel of two 6,000 gallon tanks was also unknown.


SOMEONE STOLE IT AND FILLED THEIR HOME FUEL TANK UP SO THE FUCK WHAT.


Therefore, NIST also assumed the worst-case scenario for these tanks, namely that all of the fuel would have been available to feed fires either at ground level or on the 5th floor.


SO INVESTIGATION REPORTS ARE BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS NOW DAYS? HOW INTERESTING. WELL GET TO WORK AND PROVE UP YOUR CLAIMS.





YOUR BOY JOHNNY POSING SHOWING OFF THE EVIDENCE OF THE CRIME.

line by line rebuttal with your wall of test removed.

Now come up with another reason to dodge this one as well, tard.

Not my problem if you cut and paste bullshit and your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash.

 

[daws101]

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[KokomoJojo]

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ok everyone the cut-n-paste fucktard dodged everything what a supreme fucking loser.

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yep thanks again for proving my points for me.

 

[Gamolon]

You raise a couple of good points Gamolon and I'll get to your posts this evening (busy day ahead).

I want to go back to Gamolon's posts and then (immediately) come back to this. If I don't I'll never here the end of it!

Waiting...

Gamolon.... Are you there?

Yup.

 

[E.L.C.]

Yeah? Well, Gamaclown.... you can just keep waiting for all I care. If there's any consensus on WTC 7 (the other thread getting trashed), we can move on to the towers and the pentagon. Until then....

 

[E.L.C.]

daws101 "Newtonian physics were not
the only physics at play that day...."

 

[Gamolon]

Yeah? Well, Gamaclown.... you can just keep waiting for all I care. If there's any consensus on WTC 7 (the other thread getting trashed), we can move on to the towers and the pentagon. Until then....

Fine by me.

Now go back to the other thread and answer my questions regarding how Newton's laws apply to a complex structure made up of components with varying load strengths:

1. Columns
2. Floor trusses
3. Bolted connections
4. Welded connections

Just to name a few.

 

[Rockland]

Yeah? Well, Gamaclown.... you can just keep waiting for all I care. If there's any consensus on WTC 7 (the other thread getting trashed), we can move on to the towers and the pentagon. Until then....

In other words, you've got nothing. Yeah, we knew that.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Yeah? Well, Gamaclown.... you can just keep waiting for all I care. If there's any consensus on WTC 7 (the other thread getting trashed), we can move on to the towers and the pentagon. Until then....

In other words, you've got nothing. Yeah, we knew that.

so quantum failure, have you figured out that the bank trust building is not wtc7 yet?

 

[KokomoJojo]

Yeah? Well, Gamaclown.... you can just keep waiting for all I care. If there's any consensus on WTC 7 (the other thread getting trashed), we can move on to the towers and the pentagon. Until then....

Fine by me.

Now go back to the other thread and answer my questions regarding how Newton's laws apply to a complex structure made up of components with varying load strengths:

1. Columns
2. Floor trusses
3. Bolted connections
4. Welded connections

Just to name a few.

so you think newtons laws are inappropriate and do not apply to a complex structure and we are back to your laws of massive asshat huh.