Just celebrated the death of Jesus as our Savior. The date is set by the actual date it occurred. They compute the correct day every year. SO it is not always on the same day since the calendar in use back then was Lunar and ours is not.
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Just celebrated the death of Jesus as our Savior. The date is set by the actual date it occurred. They compute the correct day every year. SO it is not always on the same day since the calendar in use back then was Lunar and ours is not.
Just celebrated the death of Jesus as our Savior. The date is set by the actual date it occurred. They compute the correct day every year. SO it is not always on the same day since the calendar in use back then was Lunar and ours is not.
celebrate?
I have a little different take on the death of Christ, as you might imagine.
A wise, enlightened man once lived in Judea. He taught love, forgiveness, that we are all children of God, and that God lives within all of us. He taught that the downtrodden and despised could have greater virtue than the rich, the pretenders to righteousness, and the priests. He sharply pointed up the hypocrisy of the established religious leaders of his day, and associated with prostitutes, tribute-collectors, the poor and outcast. He pardoned a woman caught in adultery and meant to be stoned according to the law of the time, and condemned the kind of mindset that would have killed her. They say the presence of God was so great in him that he could walk on water and raise the dead; whether that's true or not, holiness flows from his words even today.
The religious right of the time condemned him, of course, and put him to a slow, painful death. He's said to have risen from the dead afterwards. Certainly we may have his spirit and his wisdom with us, and have need of it in the face of the hypocrites of the type who murdered him, who are also, alas, with us still -- many of them speaking in his name.
I understand how you feel. It is very humane. But try to look at it from Jesus' point of view.
That's exactly what I was doing. In order to do that, you have to first strip away the accumulated Christian doctrine about him that has no bearing on his own point of view.
In the battle between Good and Evil, Satan was able to introduce sin into the blood of two of God's children. It is passed from the parent to the children. Satan thought he had won the battle AND severed forever the tie between us and our Father, because the rule is:
The punishment for sin is death, and, God can't look upon us or even hear us because of the sin that is in our blood. We can't work enough to remove it either. We were done for.
God and Jesus did an end around and in keeping with all of the guidelines, paid the penalty for sin with perfect sin free blood, hence paving the way for us to return to the penthouse where we belong. Re-pent means to return to the highest level.
God and Jesus won the battle for our souls. Had man not nailed Jesus to that cross, he would have climbed up there and nailed himself to it. And if He was capable of walking on water, He could have climbed down from a cross too. But He had a mission to accomplish. It was finished on that day. He loves us that much.
Yes, yes, yes, I've heard this argument before. It's absurd. The idea that there is anything in creation that God can't see or can't look through is nonsense. The idea that he had to send anyone to Hell is nonsense. God is the ground and being of everything; God IS everything, and without Him nothing was made that was made. There are no limits of that kind on God.
All of these philosophical explanations are after-the-fact justifications for what is, in origin, a truly bloodthirsty, primitive, and abominable idea of God as a punitive tyrant who demanded blood sacrifice for the offenses of mankind, and was appeased in his blood-lust by the willing sacrifice of his own son. That was the original idea, it made sense to people long ago who were barely out of savagery, but it makes no sense today, and whitewashing it with nonsensical ideas about the limitations on God will not cure its deficiencies.
Jesus was a wise and holy man who felt the presence of God within him and helped many to find the same presence within them. The religious authorities saw him as a threat and got the state to put him to death. That's all the meaning from his life and his crucifixion that we can be sure of.
And how can you be sure of that?
Who said Jesus was a wise and holy man? If you strip away any Christian doctrine about him, then you can't make that statement. It's guesswork on your part.
Apparently you pick and choose His words to suit your agenda. Do you ignore the, "I am the way"...... "You must be born again"........ "I am the king of the Jews"........ words He spoke? Do you assume He's holy and nuts?
Just celebrated the death of Jesus as our Savior. The date is set by the actual date it occurred. They compute the correct day every year. SO it is not always on the same day since the calendar in use back then was Lunar and ours is not.
Just celebrated the death of Jesus as our Savior. The date is set by the actual date it occurred. They compute the correct day every year. SO it is not always on the same day since the calendar in use back then was Lunar and ours is not.
Hey stupid..........if that's true, then Passover (which is calculated according to lunar cycles of the Jewish calendar) would occur just before Easter every year.
It's actually lined up as the first Sunday after the Spring solstice, because the celebration of Easter is actually a mix of Judaic/Pagan/Christian belief systems.
Rome had to throw a bone to the pagans of their country in order to get them to accept the new religion.
Try again Retarded Grungy Shithead.
Just celebrated the death of Jesus as our Savior. The date is set by the actual date it occurred. They compute the correct day every year. SO it is not always on the same day since the calendar in use back then was Lunar and ours is not.
Hey stupid..........if that's true, then Passover (which is calculated according to lunar cycles of the Jewish calendar) would occur just before Easter every year.
It's actually lined up as the first Sunday after the Spring solstice, because the celebration of Easter is actually a mix of Judaic/Pagan/Christian belief systems.
Rome had to throw a bone to the pagans of their country in order to get them to accept the new religion.
Try again Retarded Grungy Shithead.
Go ahead you dumb ass do the math, based on the DATE Jesus was killed compute the proper date this year and you will find that Thursday last was the actual DATE he died. But don't let facts or truth get in the way of a good rant.
I do not celebrate Easter or the resurrection Jesus did not command those be remembered only his death. Just like I do not celebrate his birth which was probably in October or November. He did not command that be celebrated either.