Damn....they nabbed the cleaning crew...

[Foxfyre]

On social media, illegal immigrants are crying about why they "hate us so much".

I don't hate them in general. I even understand their plight.

But they didn't apply for anything; they broke in. Doesn't make them terrible people, but does make them at risk of deportation.

And a percentage of them are terrible people who never should have been allowed in even under Biden's open border policy. Those are the ones ICE is focusing on first but no doubt other 'non terrible but still illegal' people get caught up in the process from time to time.

 

[Foxfyre]

LOL.....Back in the day small villages up and down the Shenandoah Valley could easily lose half their population when ICE would raid the poultry/warehousing operations.

When I was doing insurance fire and safety inspections, I could clear out a whole restaurant kitchen staff by pulling out my camera.

 

[JoeB131]

You did not know Rush Limbaugh died? And Breonna was the victim of her own boyfriend.

I put a lot of the blame on her boyfriends (both the one who was dumb enough to shoot at the cops, and the one who implicated her in his drug business while talking on a monitored line.)

But the cops were reckless.

As for Limbaugh, the point is he abused drugs and he broke the law to acquire more of them.

Yet he got no jail time. He got rehab. Which I'm mostly fine with, as we should treat addiction as a disease and not a criminal offense.

that is, unless you forget what an absolute hypocrite Limbaugh was on the subject.

 

[JoeB131]

And a percentage of them are terrible people who never should have been allowed in even under Biden's open border policy. Those are the ones ICE is focusing on first but no doubt other 'non terrible but still illegal' people get caught up in the process from time to time.

And a few America citizens get caught up in it, but, hey, it's not like they are white people, amiright?

So how about this, let's go after the people who have committed violent crimes and stop wasting our time going after people who just don't have their paperwork in order.

 

[AZrailwhale]

And a few America citizens get caught up in it, but, hey, it's not like they are white people, amiright?

So how about this, let's go after the people who have committed violent crimes and stop wasting our time going after people who just don't have their paperwork in order.

And an American citizen will have no problem at all establishing their citizenship. A simple state ID card or driver’s license will suffice since the illegals can’t qualify for a real ID card or license and the licenses granted to illegal aliens. The licenses for illegals have a special notation saying they are not valid for federal I’d purposes.

 

[drudge X]

And a few America citizens get caught up in it, but, hey, it's not like they are white people, amiright?

So how about this, let's go after the people who have committed violent crimes and stop wasting our time going after people who just don't have their paperwork in order.

Democrats aren’t interested with your proposal. Otherwise, Democrats would not release rapists and murderers back on the street.

 

[justoffal]

Democrats aren’t interested with your proposal. Otherwise, Democrats would not release rapists and murderers back on the street.

About that... Why do you suppose they are trying to protect the violent criminals from deportation? I have yet to hear any rationale from them about that particular subject.

 

[JoeB131]

And an American citizen will have no problem at all establishing their citizenship. A simple state ID card or driver’s license will suffice since the illegals can’t qualify for a real ID card or license and the licenses granted to illegal aliens. The licenses for illegals have a special notation saying they are not valid for federal I’d purposes.

Then why do Trump's ICE Jackboots keep arresting American citizens?

 

[JoeB131]

Democrats aren’t interested with your proposal. Otherwise, Democrats would not release rapists and murderers back on the street.

Except that wasn't done. They released shoplifters back onto the street, and a few of them committed murders.

 

[initforme]

If no Americans any for the open positions, employers will have to pay more to get the work done. That's higher wages for americans if people hold off.

 

[justoffal]

Then why do Trump's ICE Jackboots keep arresting American citizens?

No process is perfect. The death penalty puts innocent people to death. The most well-meaning court system convicts people who don't deserve it. Even facial recognition based on computer statistics sometimes recognizes the wrong face. It's unfortunate but you can't trash an entire branch of law enforcement simply because it's not 100% perfect. If you don't have immigration and customs enforcement you simply do not have a country. Do you have a suggestion as to how to avoid mistakes?

 

[Robert W]

I put a lot of the blame on her boyfriends (both the one who was dumb enough to shoot at the cops, and the one who implicated her in his drug business while talking on a monitored line.)

But the cops were reckless.

Reckless? Were you a cop then there, and the gunfire came at you from the house, would you check your shoes to see if they were tied or fire back?

 

[Woodznutz]

I spent five years as a hospital janitor. It all comes back.

I do maintenance for a living. Janitorial work is part of it. I look forward to damp mopping floors every Monday morning. Great low impact upper body exercise.

 

[justoffal]

I do maintenance for a living. Janitorial work is part of it. I look forward to damp mopping floors every Monday morning. Great low impact upper body exercise.

Yes! Swinging a wet 32 oz mop while crawling backwards is great for the abdominals and laterals! Do that for a couple hours a day and you've got a great upper body workout going on.

Jo

 

[Woodznutz]

Which begs the question, why is Trump disrupting the economy like this?

The problem is, many industries rely on undocumented labor. So they'll make a few showy raids, but a lot of the undocumented just won't show up for work once word gets out that's where the ICE Jackboots are this week. They'll get jobs somewhere else.

The problem is that neither the immigrants nor the employers want to go through a torturous legal process.

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/types-of-work-visa

 

[JoeB131]

No process is perfect. The death penalty puts innocent people to death. The most well-meaning court system convicts people who don't deserve it. Even facial recognition based on computer statistics sometimes recognizes the wrong face. It's unfortunate but you can't trash an entire branch of law enforcement simply because it's not 100% perfect. If you don't have immigration and customs enforcement you simply do not have a country. Do you have a suggestion as to how to avoid mistakes?

Yeah, take the time and follow the law.

Actually know who you are arresting instead of just nabbing up any brown person who happens to be speaking Spanish that day.

This actually sounds... kind of simple.

 

[daveman]

Except that wasn't done. They released shoplifters back onto the street, and a few of them committed murders.

No, You’re Not Imagining a Migrant Crime Spree​

The Bragg-style soft-on-crime approach—especially combined with sanctuary policies that keep cops from cooperating with immigration authorities—has resulted in countless examples of repeat-offender aliens getting off scot-free. NYPD officials slammed New York’s sanctuary policies, which forbid the police from cooperating with federal immigration officials, after an illegal alien with previous convictions and a deportation order against him brutally raped a New York woman in August. “When will our sanctuary city laws be amended to allow us to notify federal authorities regarding the deportation of non-citizens convicted of violent crimes?” the NYPD’s chief of patrol asked the press. Sometimes, deadly consequences have ensued, like the horrifying case of 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray of Houston, whom two illegals allegedly dragged under a bridge, raped, and killed. Border officials had earlier stopped and released the two men. Testifying before Congress last year, the president of Victims of Illegal Alien Crime, Donald Rosenberg, said that almost all illegal-alien-caused deaths in the U.S. are preventable. “In the past 12 years, I have reviewed hundreds, maybe over a thousand, cases that resulted in a fatality. I can’t remember one where the killer didn’t have prior convictions or, at the very least, contact with law enforcement. Why were these people still here?”

Recently, several whistleblowers from U.S. Customs and Border Protection said that immigration officials have been failing to enforce a federal law that mandates collection of DNA samples from illegals. The result: a failure to identify criminals who are then released back into society instead of being detained. “The continued, prolonged, willful failure to comply with the DNA Fingerprint Act has resulted in the harm that Americans are dead, and these deaths were preventable,” border agent Fred Wynn recently said.

Riley’s alleged killer had been arrested several times and let go, despite his illegal status. At the time of the murder, Georgia authorities wanted Ibarra for failing to appear in court after a shoplifting arrest and release. A 2018 Government Accountability Office study found the problem particularly acute in sanctuary states. The average criminal illegal alien in California has six convictions, yet remains in the United States. According to a recent letter from ICE officials to Congress, there are 662,566 immigrants on an ICE non-detain docket—that is, they have been accused or convicted of a crime but aren’t being deported, including 435,719 convicted criminals and 226,847 with charges pending. This includes 62,231 convicted of assault (15,811 of sexual assault) and 14,301 convicted of burglary.

 

[daveman]

No process is perfect. The death penalty puts innocent people to death. The most well-meaning court system convicts people who don't deserve it. Even facial recognition based on computer statistics sometimes recognizes the wrong face. It's unfortunate but you can't trash an entire branch of law enforcement simply because it's not 100% perfect. If you don't have immigration and customs enforcement you simply do not have a country. Do you have a suggestion as to how to avoid mistakes?

Yes, he wants to open the borders, disband ICE, and give illegals citizenship.

 

[JoeB131]

No, You’re Not Imagining a Migrant Crime Spree​

The Bragg-style soft-on-crime approach—especially combined with sanctuary policies that keep cops from cooperating with immigration authorities—has resulted in countless examples of repeat-offender aliens getting off scot-free. NYPD officials slammed New York’s sanctuary policies, which forbid the police from cooperating with federal immigration officials, after an illegal alien with previous convictions and a deportation order against him brutally raped a New York woman in August. “When will our sanctuary city laws be amended to allow us to notify federal authorities regarding the deportation of non-citizens convicted of violent crimes?” the NYPD’s chief of patrol asked the press. Sometimes, deadly consequences have ensued, like the horrifying case of 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray of Houston, whom two illegals allegedly dragged under a bridge, raped, and killed. Border officials had earlier stopped and released the two men. Testifying before Congress last year, the president of Victims of Illegal Alien Crime, Donald Rosenberg, said that almost all illegal-alien-caused deaths in the U.S. are preventable. “In the past 12 years, I have reviewed hundreds, maybe over a thousand, cases that resulted in a fatality. I can’t remember one where the killer didn’t have prior convictions or, at the very least, contact with law enforcement. Why were these people still here?”

Recently, several whistleblowers from U.S. Customs and Border Protection said that immigration officials have been failing to enforce a federal law that mandates collection of DNA samples from illegals. The result: a failure to identify criminals who are then released back into society instead of being detained. “The continued, prolonged, willful failure to comply with the DNA Fingerprint Act has resulted in the harm that Americans are dead, and these deaths were preventable,” border agent Fred Wynn recently said.

Riley’s alleged killer had been arrested several times and let go, despite his illegal status. At the time of the murder, Georgia authorities wanted Ibarra for failing to appear in court after a shoplifting arrest and release. A 2018 Government Accountability Office study found the problem particularly acute in sanctuary states. The average criminal illegal alien in California has six convictions, yet remains in the United States. According to a recent letter from ICE officials to Congress, there are 662,566 immigrants on an ICE non-detain docket—that is, they have been accused or convicted of a crime but aren’t being deported, including 435,719 convicted criminals and 226,847 with charges pending. This includes 62,231 convicted of assault (15,811 of sexual assault) and 14,301 convicted of burglary.

Yes, you are imagining it.

Ibarra was a shoplifter before killing Laken, not a rapist or a murderer.

If you want to punish the whole for the acts of the few, let's throw all MAGAts in prison for what the thugs did on January 6th.
Let's throw all the Catholic Priests in prison for the few who diddled kids.

See how that works, guilt by association.

We don't have the s pace to lock up all 11 million undocumented immigrants. In fact, for all the hoopla about the Trump roundups.

ICE releases some migrant detainees as its detention facilities reach 109% capacity

Since Mr. Trump's inauguration, ICE has increased arrest operations across the country, recording as many 1,000 arrests on some days.

www.cbsnews.com

Washington — U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is releasing some migrant detainees, in some cases dozens per day, as space in its detention system has exceeded maximum capacity amid a spike in arrests by the agency under President Trump, internal government statistics obtained by CBS News show.

On Tuesday morning, space inside ICE detention facilities was at 109% capacity, with the agency holding close to 42,000 migrant detainees, despite having, on paper, a 38,521-bed capacity in its network of for-profit prisons and county jails, according to the internal Department of Homeland Security data. More than half of those in ICE custody were initially arrested along the southern border, the figures show.

On Monday, ICE released roughly 160 migrants from its custody, the figures show, an indication that the Trump administration, faced with the same operational and legal challenges on immigration enforcement that have bedeviled Democratic and Republican presidents, is being forced to release some detainees. Those released can be fitted by ICE with ankle monitors, to track their movements.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, he wants to open the borders, disband ICE, and give illegals citizenship.

Works for me.

If you guys really wanted to put an end to undocumented immigration, go after the white people who hire them.

The farmer
The sweatshop owner.
The rich Yuppie scum who can't be bothered to raise their own larva
The Middle class twit who hires a bunch of day-laborers to finish that DIY project from the Home Depot

When you go after those people for hiring undocumented aliens, they'll stop coming. There'd be no point. (Except for those legitimately seeking asylum, that is.)