AZrailwhale
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No there are too many eyes on farmworkers to use child labor. Most probably windup in sweatshops or the sex industry, slaves in other words.That's where the 300,000 missing children went
To the farms to pick your![]()
Dumbass
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No there are too many eyes on farmworkers to use child labor. Most probably windup in sweatshops or the sex industry, slaves in other words.That's where the 300,000 missing children went
To the farms to pick your![]()
Dumbass
How many who illegally crossed the border during the last four years actually came to pick your tomatoesWhere is the labor to replace the alien immigrant agriworkers?
Farm workers are a tiny portion of illegal aliens today. I used to do phone work in Ventura County California, a largely agricultural county. There was a small pool of illegal alien farmworkers operated by a "labor agency" that got busted by ICE every couple of months and reopened a few days later under a different name, but with the same legal staff and worker pool. I know because I installed phone lined for them over and over and over again. The agency floated the pool of illegals to whatever farm needed workers that day. The farmers had plausible deniability because they hired laborers from the agency and the agency's owners (I suppose) hid behind shell corporations for protection from prosecution.Yeah, I have one question for those who ask who will do our farm work, etc., when the illegals are gone: Who did all that work before we had massive numbers of illegal border crossings and visa overstays? Huh? Who?
Uh-huh. Americans did that work, and they got paid a better wage for doing it. Once the farm industry can no longer rely on millions of illegals who are willing to work for low wages, they'll have to do what they did before massive illegal immigration began: raise the wages so they can attract American workers.
Lot's to unpack, but first let's make sure we know what we are talking about. Here the man who can honestly be said to represent the Democratic Party thought process, Adam Schiff, asks how we can get farm work done if we deport illegals:
So, let's be sure we understand what Schiff is talking about when he says "farm labor." Remember the Steinbeck novel "Grapes of Wrath?" What those white migrant farm workers from Oklahoma went through is what current brown migrant farm workers from Mexico and other LA countries go through in California. Schiff is concerned that they night not be here to be exploited by farm owners, labor brokers and supervisory figures which in the old south were known as "overseers." I don't know what they're called now, but I imagine Schiff does, as he must worry who they will slavedrive to make sure we have plenty of avocadoes to make our guacamole.
In no particular order:
1) In Germany, they have legal migrant workers. The average farm worker makes nineteen Euros per hour. I'm sure there is roughly the same in the rest of Europe, but I know Germany. I lived in Germany for several years, and I don't remember seeing fifty dollar beets or any of the other outrages we are warned against. Why can they do it and not us?
American farmers are subsidized so that they have a guaranteed selling price for their products. When Trump gets other countries acting like partners instead of adversaries, our farmers will have a world wide market for their products, which are the best in the world. Why should the workers not share in that prosperity?
2) Schiff said that "it's estimated that perhaps half of California's farm workforce is undocumented." Given Schiff's propensity to lie at every turn, and his use of the passive voice instead of saying where that estimate comes from, it is safe to assume that it is much, much less than half. But let's pretend he's an honest person who provided a source for his statistic. If half are undocumented, then half are documented, by simple common sense. Do the undocumented half do all the work?
Of course not. Documented migrant workers, legal residents, and American citizens are perfectly capable of doing farm work. They ARE doing farm work, according to Adam Schiff's statement above. Why not simply increase the number of H-2-A visas issued and have the workforce be legal? I think it was John Henry Fauk who said stolen watermelons taste sweeter (or was it IM2?). Do Democrats believe that tomatoes picked by illegals make better Bloody Mary's after a night of drinking screwdrivers made with illegally picked oranges?
3) Will any Democrat on here state firmly that is is worth the rapes, murders, drug deaths, gang wars, child sex trafficking and exploitation of migrants to have this "cheap" farm labor? Because if we must put up with all those things in oder to have those illegal workers here, that seem an extremely high price to pay for something they call "cheap."
4) Schiff says "Americans don't want to do that work it's (chuckle) too back breaking." Really? When I was in college, I worked at UPS. My first job was unoading trailers that had been sitting in the sun for several hours and were stacked to the ceiling with packages, which I pulled from the top, placed on built-in rollers and pushed to the back so the waiting sorters could handle them. It was backbreaking work in temps well over 100 degrees and no fresh air. I was an American and I did that work.
I was motivated by money and the opportunity for advancement. I never heard the corporate execs of UPS demanding that they they be allowed to use illegal aliens so they could pay them sub-minimum wage.
So, why is it that Americans don't want to do that work? the pay is not enough. Why is raising the pay not the first answer that comes to them minds of Democrats? WHy do they immediately go to "Bring in poor immigrants. They'll have to do it, Bwah-hah-hah-hah!!"
Sorry for the long rant. By Allah! Democrats are evil scum.
So what do did ya need 15 to 30 million illegals from all over the world for ?
Thank's for the admission you were wrong.So what do did ya need 15 to 30 million illegals from all over the world for ?
They've been running that 11 million number since the 80s and the Reagan administrationThank's for the admission you were wrong.
1. We have maybe 11 million, of which about 1.5 mm will be gone in four years.
2. Who is going to work the crops?
Thank's for the admission you were wrong.
1. We have maybe 11 million, of which about 1.5 mm will be gone in four years.
2. Who is going to work the crops?
Where are the missing children
They've been running that 11 million number since the 80s and the Reagan administration
You people are so stupid you thought I was serious about the kids picking tomatoes
Where are those missing children You low IQ retard... They're not in humane caring obama cages
Estimates are as high as 30 million illegals entered the country over the last four years
They know they need farm workers but they have to fix your mess first .your giant mess of pissing away billions upon billions on illegals who you invited in Willie Nilly
And you don't like it because wapo told you not to like it
/——/ And Trump didn’t need a bill from Congress to seal the border. Another lie peddled by democRATs.Funny how they try to automate our piers putting pier workers out of a job yet we cannot do without illegal immigrants to pick our strawberries.
Does Schiff ever understand that no one is again migrants, just ILLEGAL migrants?
It's there if the wages paid go up hugely. Otherwise let the crops sit.Where is the labor to replace the alien immigrant agriworkers?
It's there if the wages paid go up hugely. Otherwise let the crops sit.
One of thee most amazing interviews I've seen yet on the destroying of the leftist narrative. Jake Tapper was absolutely exposed in this interview for what kind of snake he actually is...We need Steven to deal with these leftist CNN host daily, and possibly to appear on the view in order to finally destroy those leftist elites completely, and hopefully once and for all after their ratings drop to extreme levels ultimately bottoming them out.. ENJOY !!!How many who illegally crossed the border during the last four years actually came to pick your tomatoes
That answer would be zero none of them
None of them came to pick lettuce
They came for your free s***
This is a problem the Democrats created
The border has been closed in one f****** week
Thousands upon a thousands upon thousands were coming every week
Closed
Now the roundups begin
And you'll cry even harder
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Low IQ uneducated
One thing being missed also, is that the American people are very resourceful and resilient, so if pressure is applied by leftist radicals who are hoping to topple this government, then the American people will respond, and they will survive.They will go up either way.
Farming is more mechanized every year. That why immigant farm workers always want to unionize; so they can continue to pick crops by hand.American farmers should be switching to robotics.
How many who illegally crossed the border during the last four years actually came to pick your tomatoes
That answer would be zero none of them
None of them came to pick lettuce
They came for your free s***
This is a problem the Democrats created
The border has been closed in one f****** week
Thousands upon a thousands upon thousands were coming every week
Closed
Now the roundups begin
And you'll cry even harder
Delicious
Low IQ uneducated