Schools Should Not Be Islands of Lawlessness

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My social media is filled with the news that "ICE came to an elementary school", which is of course false. It was the Dept of Homeland Security in Chicago looking into a neighborhood issue. The school turned them away (link below).

Some thoughts:

1. Schools should not be islands of lawlessness. If there is a terrorist working in a school, what? Keep him there so the children's feelings are not hurt? Schools run on tight schedules. Come nab the perp when the children are at lunch, recess, etc.

2. Leftists only say "What about the children?" when they can gain political ground. I watched them during Covid: calling children germ vectors, insisting we mask BABIES, keeping them out of school for months and years. Children were not their chief concern then, nor now.

3. My support will stop if ICE/DHS goes into schools to get children. This will not happen, btw, but some dream of it for what a political win it would be for them.

The Chicago "ICE" story:

CPS officials shared an update in a statement Friday evening, saying the agents showed ID that included the name Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE and the Secret Service:

"Earlier today, Chicago Public School leaders shared that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents showed up this morning (Friday) at Hamline Elementary School. After our District officials shared public statements, we learned that the agents who visited the school were from the U.S. Secret Service. Our original communication was a result of a misunderstanding, reflective of the fear and concerns in the community amid the new administration's focus on undocumented immigrants. Here's what happened: Two individuals showed up at the school door and presented identification that includes the name Department of Homeland Security, the federal agency that oversees ICE. School officials proceeded to respond to the agents with the understanding that they were from ICE, amid rumors and reports that the agency was in the community. Regardless of which branch of Homeland Security visited this school, officials followed the established protocols to ensure student safety. The agents were not allowed into the school or permitted to speak with staff or students. Hamline administrators also worked with CPS' Law Department and CPS' Office of Safety and Security. The situation was handled with the federal agents leaving the campus without entry. While this was a misunderstanding in terms of the specific branch of DHS, the school's response demonstrates that our system, in partnership with community organizations, is prepared and ready to keep our students and staff safe."

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson shared a statement about the situation on social media, saying it is "imperative that individuals not spread unverified information that sparks fear across the city."

 
What did I say that was wrong?

You either did not read the post or you're stone-cold stupid. Okay, or disingenuous.

If the first: read the post. READ it.

If the second, I'm sorry. But I can't help you.

If the third, you're ignored.
 
So if schools are providing sanctuary one would imagine them to be the first place illegals will dump their kids Sue....~S~
 
You either did not read the post or you're stone-cold stupid. Okay, or disingenuous.

If the first: read the post. READ it.

If the second, I'm sorry. But I can't help you.

If the third, you're ignored.


Schools Should Not Be Islands of Lawlessness​


Do you understand what the S after schools indicates? This was one school and it seems they initially had the same concern you do so what issue do you have that would include schools?

So "Secret Service" thought there was someone dangerous there but simply left? You buy this?
 
So if schools are providing sanctuary one would imagine them to be the first place illegals will dump their kids Sue....~S~

Um, yes. Not to mention all the freebies schools are responsible for now, including breakfast and lunch, washing clothes, etc.

I'm not in favor of ICE taking children. It's not their fault. But if they wait for parent pick up? And get the parents? I'm not mad about it.
 

Schools Should Not Be Islands of Lawlessness​


Do you understand what the S after schools indicates? This was one school and it seems they initially had the same concern you do so what issue do you have that would include schools?

So "Secret Service" thought there was someone dangerous there but simply left? You buy this?

Oh, I missed a category. Ignorant. You are ignorant of all the discourse around Trump revoking churches and schools as "safe spaces" from ICE.

I'm sorry you're ignorant
 
Oh, I missed a category. Ignorant. You are ignorant of all the discourse around Trump revoking churches and schools as "safe spaces" from ICE.

I'm sorry you're ignorant

You have the exact same concern with ICE as the principal did. You stated so yourself.

All the same, you believe the cover? Secret Service was after someone and simply turned around and left? The same secret service that was hammered and hammered over the attempts on Trump?

You believe the story and I'm the ignorant one?
 
Um, yes. Not to mention all the freebies schools are responsible for now, including breakfast and lunch, washing clothes, etc.

I'm not in favor of ICE taking children. It's not their fault. But if they wait for parent pick up? And get the parents? I'm not mad about it.
understood Sue

&&& this is placing your profession in a position none of you signed up for

~S~
 
All the very vocal JOY Maga has expressed with Trump's deportation plans have lead Schools to be cautious and over react imo.

Come into the schools. See the disadvantaged AMERICAN children whose education is being drained by illegals who have nothing and speak no English.

Then we'll talk.
 

Schools Should Not Be Islands of Lawlessness​


Do you understand what the S after schools indicates? This was one school and it seems they initially had the same concern you do so what issue do you have that would include schools?

So "Secret Service" thought there was someone dangerous there but simply left? You buy this?

I'm sorry you're ignorant and have missed teachers and principals all over social media saying they'll never let feds into their schools.

I can't talk, and will not, with ignorance.
 
I'm sorry you're ignorant and have missed teachers and principals all over social media saying they'll never let feds into their schools.

I can't talk, and will not, with ignorance.

They have the exact same concern you do.

You avoid my question also. You believe the Secret Service was after some dangerous someone or another and simply turned and left over a "No"?
 
understood Sue

&&& this is placing your profession in a position none of you signed up for

~S~

Sparky we have been there for years. We are no longer institutes of education. We are day orphanages and, in too many cases, day treatment centers. Teachers are leaving the profession in droves because we are asked to PARENT our students--and then the parents criticize how we're doing it.

I wish nurses and teachers could band together and just walk the heck out one day. We are asked to hold up a social fabric that is no longer knit together.
 
They have the exact same concern you do.

You avoid my question also. You believe the Secret Service was after some dangerous someone or another and simply turned and left over a "No"?

Go argue with the cartoon in your head, that said nothing I ever did.

Bye
 
I wish nurses and teachers could band together and just walk the heck out one day. We are asked to hold up a social fabric that is no longer knit together.
seems this is going to end badly unless some ....dare i say...radical changes occur Sue......~S~
 
seems this is going to end badly unless some ....dare i say...radical changes occur Sue......~S~

My aunt had a PhD in education and taught at the university level. She told me about 15 years ago now that public education is broken, no one is willing to fix it, and it was only a matter of time before the whole system dissolves.

At the time I thought she was rather crazy tbh. But she was right.

Some conservatives cheer about that, of course, but the problems that broke it are not going away.
 

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