Cutting Through the Liberal Nonsense About the Logan Act and the GOP Open Letter to Iran's Despots

[The2ndAmendment]

You prefer to deflect criticism of 47 Republicans whose hatred for the President of the United States trumps following the oath they swore.

So answer the question

They don't swear an Oath to the President of the United States, they swear an Oath to the Constitution of the United States you dumb ****.

And that Constitution gives the US Senate AUTHORITY in foreign affairs. It's outrageous that Obama would simply ignore them when their Consent is required for all foreign treaties and agreements.

You shouldn't be worried though, your boy king will probably pass an executive order to accomplish his foreign policy without the Senate, just like he's doing with the UN firearms treaties.

Pea brains like you and the pea brain Senate Republicans need a civics lesson, “It’s the Republican senators who signed the letter – including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and potential presidential candidates Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida – who could use a remedial civics class. The Constitution gives the president broad authority to conduct foreign policy. The Senate’s “advise and consent” role covers formal treaties. The potential deal on Iran’s nuclear weapons program is not a treaty. It is a multinational agreement that involves Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia, as well as the United States and Iran.”

So, you honestly think that the Senate is EXEMPT from a "multinational agreement" ??? That's considered a treaty you dumb ****.

 

[Darkwind]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

CLOWNS like you and the pea brain Senate Republicans need a civics lesson, “It’s the Republican senators who signed the letter – including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and potential presidential candidates Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida – who could use a remedial civics class. The Constitution gives the president broad authority to conduct foreign policy. The Senate’s “advise and consent” role covers formal treaties. The potential deal on Iran’s nuclear weapons program is not a treaty. It is a multinational agreement that involves Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia, as well as the United States and Iran.”

It seems you can recite, but you don't know how to turn that information into knowledge.

Advise and Consent for formal treaties....which is what was IN THE FUCKING LETTER....that the President can only make temporary deals and if the Iranians want a permanent deal, they HAVE to have the Senates approval.

So far, the only thing this deal is worth, is ridicule. Its the worst deal possible and any President, from either party, would immediately vacate is when they take office.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Sabotage is a key word.

They wanted to undermine and weaken the position of the United States. There is simply no other possible reason for what they did.

 

[occupied]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

You need to be reminded that the executive branch is entirely tasked with diplomacy and negotiating international agreements, congress is only involved when treaties need to be ratified.

 

[Darkwind]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

You need to be reminded that the executive branch is entirely tasked with diplomacy and negotiating international agreements, congress is only involved when treaties need to be ratified.

Did you write a letter to Pelosi about that when she was sitting and sipping with the Syrian President?

 

[jknowgood]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Sabotage is a key word.

They wanted to undermine and weaken the position of the United States. There is simply no other possible reason for what they did.

Obama is a weak president, hates america, and is a liar. He really needs to be impeached.

 

[occupied]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Sabotage is a key word.

They wanted to undermine and weaken the position of the United States. There is simply no other possible reason for what they did.

They want to keep tensions high with Iran so they can have a useless, expensive war with them later. They are the ones who want Iran to get the bomb so we can use it as justification.

 

[occupied]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

You need to be reminded that the executive branch is entirely tasked with diplomacy and negotiating international agreements, congress is only involved when treaties need to be ratified.

Did you write a letter to Pelosi about that when she was sitting and sipping with the Syrian President?

Quit deflecting and address the topic at hand or go away, plenty more Obama bashing threads here.

 

[jknowgood]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Sabotage is a key word.

They wanted to undermine and weaken the position of the United States. There is simply no other possible reason for what they did.

They want to keep tensions high with Iran so they can have a useless, expensive war with them later. They are the ones who want Iran to get the bomb so we can use it as justification.

No war as I stated in another thread. Just tell them we will bomb any nuclear reactor that is being built. Nothing more nothing less. They don't have the capability to do anything against us. Unless Obama has done what he really wants to do.

 

[Bfgrn]

You prefer to deflect criticism of 47 Republicans whose hatred for the President of the United States trumps following the oath they swore.

So answer the question

They don't swear an Oath to the President of the United States, they swear an Oath to the Constitution of the United States you dumb ****.

And that Constitution gives the US Senate AUTHORITY in foreign affairs. It's outrageous that Obama would simply ignore them when their Consent is required for all foreign treaties and agreements.

You shouldn't be worried though, your boy king will probably pass an executive order to accomplish his foreign policy without the Senate, just like he's doing with the UN firearms treaties.

Pea brains like you and the pea brain Senate Republicans need a civics lesson, “It’s the Republican senators who signed the letter – including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and potential presidential candidates Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida – who could use a remedial civics class. The Constitution gives the president broad authority to conduct foreign policy. The Senate’s “advise and consent” role covers formal treaties. The potential deal on Iran’s nuclear weapons program is not a treaty. It is a multinational agreement that involves Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia, as well as the United States and Iran.”

So, you honestly think that the Senate is EXEMPT from a "multinational agreement" ??? That's considered a treaty you dumb ****.

EDUCATE yourself instead of emoting pea brain...

Key items in the constitutional debate over Congress Obama and Iran

 

[jknowgood]

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

You need to be reminded that the executive branch is entirely tasked with diplomacy and negotiating international agreements, congress is only involved when treaties need to be ratified.

Did you write a letter to Pelosi about that when she was sitting and sipping with the Syrian President?

Quit deflecting and address the topic at hand or go away, plenty more Obama bashing threads here.

Can't answer a simple question?

 

[Darkwind]

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

You need to be reminded that the executive branch is entirely tasked with diplomacy and negotiating international agreements, congress is only involved when treaties need to be ratified.

Did you write a letter to Pelosi about that when she was sitting and sipping with the Syrian President?

Quit deflecting and address the topic at hand or go away, plenty more Obama bashing threads here.

Deflecting? The fact that out of the 8 times in recent history that the Congress has meddled in executive authority with regards to foreign policy, you cry about the GOP's ONE instance yet ignore the 7 instances of the democrats activity. I won't go away, I won't stop pointing out the hypocrisy, nor will I let it slide. Each time a whine is made about the GOP and Obama, I'll be sure to bring to the forefront the fact that the Democrats have been much more active in this sabotage than the GOP....

I'm less than impressed with the whining.

 

[Bfgrn]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

CLOWNS like you and the pea brain Senate Republicans need a civics lesson, “It’s the Republican senators who signed the letter – including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and potential presidential candidates Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida – who could use a remedial civics class. The Constitution gives the president broad authority to conduct foreign policy. The Senate’s “advise and consent” role covers formal treaties. The potential deal on Iran’s nuclear weapons program is not a treaty. It is a multinational agreement that involves Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia, as well as the United States and Iran.”

It seems you can recite, but you don't know how to turn that information into knowledge.

Advise and Consent for formal treaties....which is what was IN THE FUCKING LETTER....that the President can only make temporary deals and if the Iranians want a permanent deal, they HAVE to have the Senates approval.

So far, the only thing this deal is worth, is ridicule. Its the worst deal possible and any President, from either party, would immediately vacate is when they take office.

It is NOT a treaty. What don't you understand?

 

[Darkwind]

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

CLOWNS like you and the pea brain Senate Republicans need a civics lesson, “It’s the Republican senators who signed the letter – including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and potential presidential candidates Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida – who could use a remedial civics class. The Constitution gives the president broad authority to conduct foreign policy. The Senate’s “advise and consent” role covers formal treaties. The potential deal on Iran’s nuclear weapons program is not a treaty. It is a multinational agreement that involves Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia, as well as the United States and Iran.”

It seems you can recite, but you don't know how to turn that information into knowledge.

Advise and Consent for formal treaties....which is what was IN THE FUCKING LETTER....that the President can only make temporary deals and if the Iranians want a permanent deal, they HAVE to have the Senates approval.

So far, the only thing this deal is worth, is ridicule. Its the worst deal possible and any President, from either party, would immediately vacate is when they take office.

It is NOT a treaty. What don't you understand?

LOL...wow......Maybe you do get it...

Thats what the letter from Congress says too! That its is NOT a treaty......so, what are you whining about?

 

[occupied]

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

You need to be reminded that the executive branch is entirely tasked with diplomacy and negotiating international agreements, congress is only involved when treaties need to be ratified.

Did you write a letter to Pelosi about that when she was sitting and sipping with the Syrian President?

Quit deflecting and address the topic at hand or go away, plenty more Obama bashing threads here.

Deflecting? The fact that out of the 8 times in recent history that the Congress has meddled in executive authority with regards to foreign policy, you cry about the GOP's ONE instance yet ignore the 7 instances of the democrats activity. I won't go away, I won't stop pointing out the hypocrisy, nor will I let it slide. Each time a whine is made about the GOP and Obama, I'll be sure to bring to the forefront the fact that the Democrats have been much more active in this sabotage than the GOP....

I'm less than impressed with the whining.

The difference here is that it was a concerted effort by an entire political party to undermine the president on behalf of Israel to preserve the justification for a future war.

 

[Bfgrn]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

You need to be reminded that the executive branch is entirely tasked with diplomacy and negotiating international agreements, congress is only involved when treaties need to be ratified.

Did you write a letter to Pelosi about that when she was sitting and sipping with the Syrian President?

Pelosi was accompanied at the meeting by a Republican congressman and Bush State Department officials. She informed the White House and State Department of her trip, and foreign policy experts said that her visit didn't stray from a "typical" congressional visit. Three Republican congressmen also met with Assad prior to her visit.

NOW WHAT???

 

[occupied]

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Stating common knowledge is NOT sabotage and they did nothing of the sort. At least they didn't fly to Iran and sit down with their leaders and speak against the sitting President, as Pelosi did, eh?

Sometimes you clowns need a reminder that the power of the Presidency is limited and the world needs to understand, we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government, that they have to deal with when it comes to treaties and international deals.

CLOWNS like you and the pea brain Senate Republicans need a civics lesson, “It’s the Republican senators who signed the letter – including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and potential presidential candidates Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida – who could use a remedial civics class. The Constitution gives the president broad authority to conduct foreign policy. The Senate’s “advise and consent” role covers formal treaties. The potential deal on Iran’s nuclear weapons program is not a treaty. It is a multinational agreement that involves Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia, as well as the United States and Iran.”

It seems you can recite, but you don't know how to turn that information into knowledge.

Advise and Consent for formal treaties....which is what was IN THE FUCKING LETTER....that the President can only make temporary deals and if the Iranians want a permanent deal, they HAVE to have the Senates approval.

So far, the only thing this deal is worth, is ridicule. Its the worst deal possible and any President, from either party, would immediately vacate is when they take office.

It is NOT a treaty. What don't you understand?

LOL...wow......Maybe you do get it...

Thats what the letter from Congress says too! That its is NOT a treaty......so, what are you whining about?

We have a lot of international agreements that serve our interests and are not actually treaties. The world wants to start trading with Iran, those assholes might have blown a good chance to get nuclear inspectors back in there before it happens.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Sabotage is a key word.

They wanted to undermine and weaken the position of the United States. There is simply no other possible reason for what they did.

They want to keep tensions high with Iran so they can have a useless, expensive war with them later. They are the ones who want Iran to get the bomb so we can use it as justification.

Yep. That letter tells Iran that congress will not support any effort to keep them from developing nuclear weapons to use against the US.

Anyone who believes the right is not doing their best to bring down the US has not been paying attention. This letter proves that and it proves, once and for all, that their anti-America actions are not because they hate the president.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

You prefer to deflect criticism of 47 Republicans whose hatred for the President of the United States trumps following the oath they swore.

So answer the question

They don't swear an Oath to the President of the United States, they swear an Oath to the Constitution of the United States you dumb ****.

And that Constitution gives the US Senate AUTHORITY in foreign affairs. It's outrageous that Obama would simply ignore them when their Consent is required for all foreign treaties and agreements.

You shouldn't be worried though, your boy king will probably pass an executive order to accomplish his foreign policy without the Senate, just like he's doing with the UN firearms treaties.

Pea brains like you and the pea brain Senate Republicans need a civics lesson, “It’s the Republican senators who signed the letter – including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and potential presidential candidates Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida – who could use a remedial civics class. The Constitution gives the president broad authority to conduct foreign policy. The Senate’s “advise and consent” role covers formal treaties. The potential deal on Iran’s nuclear weapons program is not a treaty. It is a multinational agreement that involves Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia, as well as the United States and Iran.”

So, you honestly think that the Senate is EXEMPT from a "multinational agreement" ??? That's considered a treaty you dumb ****.

EDUCATE yourself instead of emoting pea brain...

Key items in the constitutional debate over Congress Obama and Iran

Dumb ****.

 

[Bfgrn]

It was a shitty backstabbing underhanded thing to do that strengthened the Iranian position that WE are not to be trusted in a deal. No one can deny that.

Obama has proven he is not trustworthy. He cannot tell the truth even if it won't hurt him. He will still lie.

Don't blame this shit on Obama, the topic concerns the actions of the republicans who signed that letter. They attempted to sabotage delicate negotiations our president was carrying out as part of his duties on behalf of a foreign government (Israel). You just cannot dress that up as anything noble.

Sabotage is a key word.

They wanted to undermine and weaken the position of the United States. There is simply no other possible reason for what they did.

They want to keep tensions high with Iran so they can have a useless, expensive war with them later. They are the ones who want Iran to get the bomb so we can use it as justification.

Yep. That letter tells Iran that congress will not support any effort to keep them from developing nuclear weapons to use against the US.

Anyone who believes the right is not doing their best to bring down the US has not been paying attention. This letter proves that and it proves, once and for all, that their anti-America actions are not because they hate the president.

GOP senators might just as well have put up a big sign over their chamber warning the mullahs in Tehran to prepare for war because that’s the practical import of rejecting any possibility of a negotiated resolution of the two countries’ differences...

Republican senators letter to Iran - Baltimore Sun