Cutting electricity costs by 50%

[martybegan]

Shall we once again calculate how much coal or natural gas would have to be burned to replace the power generated by those wind turbines? And perhaps this time we could calculate how much carbon dioxide and sooty particulate would be produced. And we could start the calculation with a tallying of how much steel and plastic and copper and dreaded insulation is required to build a fired power plant. And then we can throw in the waste heat the whole process generates.

We don't claim those power sources come from nothing, unlike your side claiming renewables are build with unicorn queefs and pixie farts.

Also plants like that last for decades, and can be refurbished to last even longer.

Not so much with windmills and solar panels.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

A gallon of gasoline contains approximately 33.7 kilowatt-hours of energy that can be released by burning it.
Paying 30¢ to 60¢ per kilowatt-hour for electricity to charge a car is equivalent to paying about $10 to $20 per gallon for gasoline.

the real question is whether or not the EV charging costs include road taxes and local taxes and county taxes and federal taxes. Want to know what drives the entire cost per gallon, let's at least charge the EV owners for the same taxes.

A very relevant point.

Depending on where, in the country, you live, the price you pay for gasoline may include up to $1.83 in taxes per gallon, not to mention additional regulatory burdens imposed on the oil companies, passed along to consumers in the form of higher prices.

What would those 30¢ to 60¢ prices per kilowatt-hour of electricity rise to, if similar taxes and burdens were piled on to them?

 

[Crick]

A very relevant point.

Depending on where, in the country, you live, the price you pay for gasoline may include up to $1.83 in taxes per gallon, not to mention additional regulatory burdens imposed on the oil companies, passed along to consumers in the form of higher prices.

What would those 30¢ to 60¢ prices per kilowatt-hour of electricity rise to, if similar taxes and burdens were piled on to them?

Average state fuel tax (/50) is 29.29 cents/gallon
Federal fuel tax is 18.4 cents/gallon
48.3 cents/gallon.
Average mileage of a US gasoline motor vehicle is ~25 mpg Alternative Fuels Data Center: Maps and Data - Average Fuel Economy by Major Vehicle Category
Average range per kWh for a US EV: 4 miles How Far Can Electric Cars Go On One Charge? | Enel X Way.
48.3 cents/gal // 25 miles/gal = 1.932 cents in fees/mile traveled
1.932 x 4 m/kWh = 7.728 cents/kWh added fees
So, if the same fees were added to EV charging station rates, the cost would be 37.7 to 67.7 cents per kWh

 

[jc456]

Average state fuel tax (/50) is 29.29 cents/gallon
Federal fuel tax is 18.4 cents/gallon
48.3 cents/gallon.
Average mileage of a US gasoline motor vehicle is ~25 mpg Alternative Fuels Data Center: Maps and Data - Average Fuel Economy by Major Vehicle Category
Average range per kWh for a US EV: 4 miles How Far Can Electric Cars Go On One Charge? | Enel X Way.
48.3 cents/gal // 25 miles/gal = 1.932 cents in fees/mile traveled
1.932 x 4 m/kWh = 7.728 cents/kWh added fees
So, if the same fees were added to EV charging station rates, the cost would be 37.7 to 67.7 cents per kWh

I don't see you showing road tax.

 

[jc456]

Average state fuel tax (/50) is 29.29 cents/gallon
Federal fuel tax is 18.4 cents/gallon
48.3 cents/gallon.
Average mileage of a US gasoline motor vehicle is ~25 mpg Alternative Fuels Data Center: Maps and Data - Average Fuel Economy by Major Vehicle Category
Average range per kWh for a US EV: 4 miles How Far Can Electric Cars Go On One Charge? | Enel X Way.
48.3 cents/gal // 25 miles/gal = 1.932 cents in fees/mile traveled
1.932 x 4 m/kWh = 7.728 cents/kWh added fees
So, if the same fees were added to EV charging station rates, the cost would be 37.7 to 67.7 cents per kWh

hahahhahahahhahahahaha good made up math there bubba.

 

[Crick]

I don't see you showing road tax.

I left that for you as an exercise.

 

[jc456]

I left that for you as an exercise.

It's not my purpose in life. I merely let everyone know you're talking apples to oranges as always.

 

[Crick]

It's not my purpose in life. I merely let everyone know you're talking apples to oranges as always.

You purpose here is to TROLL and that is all you ever do.

 

[jc456]

You purpose here is to TROLL and that is all you ever do.

It’s what trolls say when they can’t answer a question

 

[skookerasbil]

BFD....There is only 1.8 million people in the whole state of 380,048 sq mi and they still have issues.



SA power woes expose deeper national problems


WV has about the same number of people in 24,038 sq miles....Coal and NG works fine.

LoL...Old Rocks has been pushing the fakery like this for 14 years in here.

But he invariably gets pwnd.

Most progressives are social oddballs ( Rocks lives in Irrelevantsville, USA in the mountains of Oregon miles from civilization ).
No ability to self assess socially....like somebody who lived in an attic for 30 years.

 

[skookerasbil]

Btw....Crick no slouch in the social oddball brigade of this forum.

When you spend half your life floating around the middle of the ocean shaking a banana at the wales...hard to navigate any kind of social dynamic.

 

[skookerasbil]

You purpose here is to TROLL and that is all you ever do.

LoL...JC makes you look like a clown in here s0n.

I will admit...give you credit for coming back in here after routinely getting your clock cleaned.

JC trolling skills prolific btw...