Typical household energy bill up £149 a year in October

[Deadstick]

If a utility makes a loss, under privatisation and under nationalised, who suffers the investment cost and losses? It's not rocket science. You won't know because you're thick as pig shit.

You are as thick as pig shit handing our vital utilities over to a bunch of gangsters and Foreigners for some reason you just don't get it.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You are as thick as pig shit handing our vital utilities over to a bunch of gangsters and Foreigners for some reason you just don't get it.

You haven't answered/explained. Also, please discuss the financing of the NHS and Labours PFI. I'll shall wait.

If you're upset with foreigners, then 3 things -

1) Why do you let Brits own overseas businesses

2) Why do you want to import as many as you can into the country

3) Why are you wanting to pack the NHS staff with foreigners

What a fool you are.

 

[Deadstick]

You haven't answered/explained. Also, please discuss the financing of the NHS and Labours PFI. I'll shall wait.

If you're upset with foreigners, then 3 things -

1) Why do you let Brits own overseas businesses

2) Why do you want to import as many as you can into the country

3) Why are you wanting to pack the NHS staff with foreigners

What a fool you are.

PPi was years ago under the Tory Blair, as far as i know the British Government don't own any European energy companies or anywhere else as far as i know, but the French Government have a big stake in my energy supplier, it isn't a case of owning overseas businesses it is Foreign Governments and Foreign Corporations owning our essential utilities like energy water rail etc, that is Thatcherism gone mad, the Taliban of Capitalism, as for the NHS it would collapse without foreign staff.

 

[Captain Caveman]

PPi was years ago under the Tory Blair, as far as i know the British Government don't own any European energy companies or anywhere else as far as i know, but the French Government have a big stake in my energy supplier, it isn't a case of owning overseas businesses it is Foreign Governments and Foreign Corporations owning our essential utilities like energy water rail etc, that is Thatcherism gone mad, the Taliban of Capitalism, as for the NHS it would collapse without foreign staff.

You still can't answer questions. Have you thought of being a politician? I'm not interested who owns what and where, whether governments, individuals, or businesses, it's a global market, it's been like that for decades upon decades. PFI means various hospitals and schools built under Blair will continue to pay millions in rent unless the government compulsory buy them up by using the money tree. You need to quit the ThDS. Any business that collapses means it's model was wrong. So you believe when the NHS was first started, foreign workers propped it up?

 

[Care4all]

Energy price cap: Typical household to pay £149 more a year

Energy regulator Ofgem announces price changes for 27 million households in England, Wales and Scotland.

www.bbc.co.uk

People using an average amount of gas and electricity will pay £1,717 a year, a 10% rise compared with now.

The cap, set by the energy regulator Ofgem, affects the price paid for each unit of gas and electricity used in 27 million homes in England, Wales and Scotland.

Although prices are still lower than last winter, the rise in bills comes as some support for bills has been withdrawn, and the new government has announced it will halt winter fuel payments for 10 million pensioners in England and Wales.

Tories managed to bring the cost of energy down twice, Labour have started to increase it. Not only that, they're scrapping the heating allowance in England and Wales to the vulnerable pensioners. Labour just hate the British.

To me, that seems reasonable for both heating and electric...converted to dollars about $2200 dollars in a year.

My heating oil bill is that a year, plus my electric bill running around $100-$120 a month, (more in the summer for running the AC, and less in the winter)!!!

Though I would imagine your homes there are smaller than most the homes in the U.S.?

 

[Deadstick]

You still can't answer questions. Have you thought of being a politician? I'm not interested who owns what and where, whether governments, individuals, or businesses, it's a global market, it's been like that for decades upon decades. PFI means various hospitals and schools built under Blair will continue to pay millions in rent unless the government compulsory buy them up by using the money tree. You need to quit the ThDS. Any business that collapses means it's model was wrong. So you believe when the NHS was first started, foreign workers propped it up?

That is the point essential utilities should not be a business they are for or should be to provide services for the people that is what a civilized Country looks like, and you don't care who owns them, well most people do care, good job the Germans didn't own large chunks of our rail network before WW2 or any invasion would have been helped by the Germans having all the knowledge about the network and control over some of it.
Thatcherism gone bonkers which you seem to be a disciple of like some mad cult.

Almost All British Train Lines Are Now Owned By Other EU Countries

Britain’s West Coast mainline, one of the last to be fully run by a UK company, has been acquired by a Trenitalia consortium. Privatisation has seen rail pass to foreign state railways.

www.forbes.com

 

[Captain Caveman]

That is the point essential utilities should not be a business they are for or should be to provide services

But you don't understand efficiency, investment, and cost. Nationalised utilities were inefficient and they didn't create investment. All businesses need investment, do you understand that? That's why they were privatised and that's why Labour and the Tories never nationalised again. But this is the problem, Lefties do not understand economics. Government's are not there to be in business, to be business owners.

You want to nationalise the rolling stock, tell me how much will that cost and tell me where the money comes from?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Deadstick your silence on foreigners needed to prop up the NHS when it was first formed is golden. That moment where you've realised you're a burke.

 

[Captain Caveman]

What did your liar in chief say about energy prices? What is your liar in chief gonna do?



From the start, Labour are going to be a shit show and the pace is unbelievable. Tories are crap, Labour are utter utter utter shit. You idiots never learn.

 

[Deadstick]

Deadstick your silence on foreigners needed to prop up the NHS when it was first formed is golden. That moment where you've realised you're a burke.

They didn't need to it was a different time with events like Windrush some of those became NHS workers.

 

[Captain Caveman]

They didn't need to it was a different time with events like Windrush some of those became NHS workers.

Good grief.

 

[Deadstick]

But you don't understand efficiency, investment, and cost. Nationalised utilities were inefficient and they didn't create investment. All businesses need investment, do you understand that? That's why they were privatised and that's why Labour and the Tories never nationalised again. But this is the problem, Lefties do not understand economics. Government's are not there to be in business, to be business owners.

You want to nationalise the rolling stock, tell me how much will that cost and tell me where the money comes from?

Why should it cost anything to nationalise rolling stock ?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Why should it cost anything to nationalise rolling stock ?

What, are you wanting the government to steal the rolling stock off the ROSCO's????????????

ROlling Stock COmpanies

You haven't a clue how the rail works, do you?

 

[Deadstick]

What, are you wanting the government to steal the rolling stock off the ROSCO's????????????

ROlling Stock COmpanies

You haven't a clue how the rail works, do you?

Yes take it back from the thieves.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What, are you wanting the government to steal the rolling stock off the ROSCO's????????????

ROlling Stock COmpanies

You haven't a clue how the rail works, do you?

You are talking about a business that doesnt have a business. They can buy the trucks back off the liquidattors.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

What did your liar in chief say about energy prices? What is your liar in chief gonna do?



From the start, Labour are going to be a shit show and the pace is unbelievable. Tories are crap, Labour are utter utter utter shit. You idiots never learn.

So now at least we know the truth.

In his first major speech as Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer confirmed what every man and his dog had long suspected. Tax rises are on the way – and they will be brutal.

After concealing his true socialist intentions, the Labour leader has finally come clean. 'There is a budget in October and it's going to be painful', he admitted.

And it was clear from his near-apocalyptic address from the No 10 rose garden who exactly would bear the brunt… the already squeezed denizens of Middle England.

Before the election Sir Keir and his Chancellor said Labour's manifesto was fully costed and denied there would be surprise tax hikes. Look how that's worked out.

DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Sanctimonious, mendacious and lacking any vision

So now at least we know the truth. In his first major speech as Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer confirmed what every man and his dog had long suspected. Tax rises are on the way - and they will be brutal.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Deadstick]

So now at least we know the truth.

In his first major speech as Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer confirmed what every man and his dog had long suspected. Tax rises are on the way – and they will be brutal.

After concealing his true socialist intentions, the Labour leader has finally come clean. 'There is a budget in October and it's going to be painful', he admitted.

And it was clear from his near-apocalyptic address from the No 10 rose garden who exactly would bear the brunt… the already squeezed denizens of Middle England.

Before the election Sir Keir and his Chancellor said Labour's manifesto was fully costed and denied there would be surprise tax hikes. Look how that's worked out.

DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Sanctimonious, mendacious and lacking any vision

So now at least we know the truth. In his first major speech as Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer confirmed what every man and his dog had long suspected. Tax rises are on the way - and they will be brutal.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Daily Mail comment i didn't vote for Starmer but i didn't hear him say yesterday that the lower paid would be paying more tax, and where the F.. is middle England?

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Daily Mail comment i didn't vote for Starmer but i didn't hear him say yesterday that the lower paid would be paying more tax, and where the F.. is middle England?

Typical non answer, attack the messenger.

I’ve seen it many times

 

[Deadstick]

Typical non answer, attack the messenger.

I’ve seen it many times

I know the likes of the Daily mail from old, they backed Mosley and his fascists before the war and Hitler, it's a rightwing propaganda paper, you sound like you have swallowed it.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

I know the likes of the Daily mail from old, they backed Mosley and his fascists before the war and Hitler, it's a rightwing propaganda paper, you sound like you have swallowed it.

Psycho babble.