Curious about your thoughts on Petraeus considered as Secretary of State?

[Divine Wind]

I don't know... but who died due to the server possibly being hacked?

No doubt you support Private Manning releasing classified information.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Petreaus is STILL on PROBATION....can you hold a Secretary position while still on probation?

I'm torn over this....I like him and think he is more qualified than all other candidates....but the baggage is huge...?

Not only is he damaged goods, he's damaged in the exact same way that Trump characterized Clinton as damaged. I was dumbfounded when they announced that he was under consideration.

 

[Lewdog]

I don't know... but who died due to the server possibly being hacked?

No doubt you support Private Manning releasing classified information.

I guess you think it is ok Tom Horn knocked out a woman with a pool cue?

See how that works?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what was more likely to happen, his girlfriend who was also in the military with government security clearance was an undercover operative, or that the Russians and Chinese (among others) intercepted Hillary's transmissions to and from that unsecured server or otherwise hacked into it?

She didn't have the proper clearance to view the documents he had. Do you think he would have shared those documents with someone he wasn't having an affair with?

No, I don't think he would of. But she certainly is a lot less of a threat to this country than hackers tapping into Hillary's server that didn't even have the basic encryption protection.

And before you tell me that her server likely didn't get tapped into, remember the things you said in the recount forums.

I think they probably were hacked... personally, but there is no proof. However who died as a result of those potential hacks? Petraeus gave out information that had the identities and locations of undercover operatives... directly putting their lives in danger.

And what was Hillary's classified emails about, wedding cakes?

I don't know... but who died due to the server possibly being hacked?

Probably the same people that died when Petreaus let his GF look at those documents.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

lol Wrong about what? She was an intelligence officer in the Army Reserves.

She wasn't cleared for the material. What Petraeus did was wrong and he paid a price for that mistake.

Obviously justice has been different for Republicans and military personnel than it is for Democrats over the past 8 years. I wonder why?

Peraeus was the Director of Central Intelligence. Not a Republican or a member of the military.
You have no problem with the CIA director knowingly and willfully sharing very highly classified material with someone he knew was not cleared to see it?

 

[Lewdog]

She didn't have the proper clearance to view the documents he had. Do you think he would have shared those documents with someone he wasn't having an affair with?

No, I don't think he would of. But she certainly is a lot less of a threat to this country than hackers tapping into Hillary's server that didn't even have the basic encryption protection.

And before you tell me that her server likely didn't get tapped into, remember the things you said in the recount forums.

I think they probably were hacked... personally, but there is no proof. However who died as a result of those potential hacks? Petraeus gave out information that had the identities and locations of undercover operatives... directly putting their lives in danger.

And what was Hillary's classified emails about, wedding cakes?

I don't know... but who died due to the server possibly being hacked?

Probably the same people that died when Petreaus let his GF look at those documents.

Soo... you just argued against yourself. Ok.

 

[Divine Wind]

I don't know... but who died due to the server possibly being hacked?

No doubt you support Private Manning releasing classified information.

I guess you think it is ok Tom Horn knocked out a woman with a pool cue?

See how that works?

Why would you think I support one person attacking another?

You're the one who seems to think that revealing classified information is okay as long as it can't be proved any Americans died. Did I misunderstand the implications of your statement?

I don't know... but who died due to the server possibly being hacked?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

petraeus gave thousands of classified documents to a person not cleared to have them, 300 marked SECRET documents, he allowed her to copy, he stored these classified secret and compartmental TOP SECRET documents in his unlocked desk drawer and gave massive amounts of secret and top secret docs to her.

Hillary had 107 emails out of 50,000 emails on her server, that were classified and only 7 of those were top secret...she gave them or handed them over to no one, she did not remove them from their proper place, her staff had top secret clearance who participated in them...and ZERO were stolen or hacked.
OOPS I MEAN, KOCH has been sold a bill of goods by HIS beloved FAUX media hacks

Not according to the New York Post:

Clinton directed her maid to print out classified materials | New York Post

You do understand that paper is a tabloid, don't you?

 

[Timmy]

the General got a slap on the wrist because he's a well connected white man .

You act like he was busted for a dui or somthing . No, dui Guys would get a harsher punishment .

LOL

Just pointing out how our justice system is bias . That's all .

Do you think it's not ?

Dude, you claimed he was given a pass because he was white. That's racist. The fact you don't recognize it's racist is very, very interesting to me.

I'm just stating facts .

You tell me . Do you think the General was treated the same as anyone else??

Maybe it wasn't the white thing , more likely its cause he's connected . But I'm just saying there's no fucking way he didn't catch a break .

 

[Timmy]

..
Ps . Generals live a charmed life . Hardly a sacrifice. If anything he should be held to a higher standard.

LOL.

So, not only are you racist, but you're anti-military. Unsurprising since most LWers hate the military just like you.

Most vets know that all Generals start out as recruits. Some as enlisted, some as butter bar lieutenants, but still at the bottom of the pecking order. It's not like 1%ers such as Chelsea Clinton who is shot to the top because of elitist privilege. The military is a merit based system, something you clearly do not understand.

You gonna tell me academy boys don't have an advantage over enlisted ? It's built in! They become officers.

And to say the military is all merit and no politics !? Now who's being naive .

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I don't think she is honest and forthright, I don't think she is completely innocent. I never claimed that. I think she broke the rules, it was exposed and investigated. It was careless and wrong but not criminal as deemed by the FBI. It was wrong and should have been talked about but also grossly overblown by her opponents during the campaign

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Do you trust Hillary? I do not. Do I trust Petraeus? Yes, I do. Do you? Politics aside, do you think Petraeus would be a good SoS or not?

Clinton isn't being considered for any position, Petraeus is. He was convicted. She was not.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

If people were truly objective then the Hillary supporters that excused her behavior should also excuse Petraeus, and the Trump supporters that wanted Hillary disqualified from running should not support Petraeus. If he is nominated there will be hypocrisy on both sides.

This is true, but what do you want to bet it will be the exact opposite?

The opposite of what? We've already seen Trump supporters supporting Petraeus JUST because they feel Hillary got off the hook.

So one minute they had ethics and morals saying Hillary should be locked up, and the next they want a guy that actually plead guilty to a crime as the third highest position in government.

The opposite of what? The opposite of leftists not making a big deal about Petreaus because of his past. I want to see these hypocrites make a big deal out of it.

So this is one of those... we''ll give up on Hillary being a criminal as soon as you guys forgive Petraeus? yeah... that's not going to work. How about, both are guilty, so pick a different person for Sec. of State?

Okay, but the people that will complain about him will be the same people that voted for Hillary. That's what I want to rub in.

You should complain about him as well. He's everything Trump disqualified Clinton for.

 

[Lewdog]

I don't know... but who died due to the server possibly being hacked?

No doubt you support Private Manning releasing classified information.

I guess you think it is ok Tom Horn knocked out a woman with a pool cue?

See how that works?

Why would you think I support one person attacking another?

You're the one who seems to think that revealing classified information is okay as long as it can't be proved any Americans died. Did I misunderstand the implications of your statement?

I don't know... but who died due to the server possibly being hacked?

No, you didn't misunderstand it, you tried to twist it. You aren't even a good troll. I sure hope you were a better soldier.

Is it ok when you beat your wife as long as you aren't giving away classified information?

 

[Lewdog]

..
Ps . Generals live a charmed life . Hardly a sacrifice. If anything he should be held to a higher standard.

LOL.

So, not only are you racist, but you're anti-military. Unsurprising since most LWers hate the military just like you.

Most vets know that all Generals start out as recruits. Some as enlisted, some as butter bar lieutenants, but still at the bottom of the pecking order. It's not like 1%ers such as Chelsea Clinton who is shot to the top because of elitist privilege. The military is a merit based system, something you clearly do not understand.

You gonna tell me academy boys don't have an advantage over enlisted ? It's built in! They become officers.

And to say the military is all merit and no politics !? Now who's being naive .

Especially when they date the daughter of the head of West Point...

 

[Divine Wind]

Peraeus was the Director of Central Intelligence. Not a Republican or a member of the military.
You have no problem with the CIA director knowingly and willfully sharing very highly classified material with someone he knew was not cleared to see it?

Yes, I do have a problem with it. He was charged and convicted of a misdemeanor. If a person comes clean and completes their sentence, do you think they should be forgiven? Do you think Virginia Governor McAuliffe was wrong to restore voting rights to felons? Should Bill Clinton be forgiven for his perjury and disbarment once he served his punishment?

 

[Divine Wind]

No, you didn't misunderstand it, you tried to twist it. You aren't even a good troll....

Agreed, You're the better troll:

...Is it ok when you beat your wife as long as you aren't giving away classified information?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It's NOT just a misdemeanor. It is a misdemeanor for mishandling Highly Classified information. We aren't talking about trespassing. You don't understand Security Clearances?

It wasn't just a misdemeanor? What else are you claiming Petraeus was convicted of doing?

He pleaded to the lesser charge to avoid a long prison sentence.

 

[Lewdog]

Peraeus was the Director of Central Intelligence. Not a Republican or a member of the military.
You have no problem with the CIA director knowingly and willfully sharing very highly classified material with someone he knew was not cleared to see it?

Yes, I do have a problem with it. He was charged and convicted of a misdemeanor. If a person comes clean and completes their sentence, do you think they should be forgiven? Do you think Virginia Governor McAuliffe was wrong to restore voting rights to felons? Should Bill Clinton be forgiven for his perjury and disbarment once he served his punishment?

Way to skirt the details.

The governor isn't giving voting rights back to ALL convicted felons.

Petraeus misdemeanor is directly tied to what his job would entail.

Once again, if you have a DUI are you going to get a job as a bus driver?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No. ....

No, you do trust those convicted of misdemeanors and who have served their sentence or no you don't trust them?

the General got a slap on the wrist because he's a well connected white man .

You act like he was busted for a dui or somthing . No, dui Guys would get a harsher punishment .

Correct. It has nothing to do with him dedicating his life to serve our country.

You're right. He was a great soldier who served with honor, right up until the time he didn't.

 

[Divine Wind]

Have you not read anything I've said? I didn't vote for Hillary and I don't find her trustworthy. Read it slow and comprehend

Sure I have, yet you keep defending Hillary and besmirching Petraeus. Why?