Cuomo Claims Ordering Positive COVID Patients To Nursing Homes Did Not Spread The Virus

[Nostra]

Liar. Cuomo made it a REQUIREMENT that nursing homes take in sick ChiCom Flu patients. They could not refuse.

That was CDC policy retard...and nursing homes that could NOT meet the criteria could refuse those patients.

The problem is that those LTC facilities were SUPPOSED to have the ability to meet that criteria and refusing re-admission exposed that failure.

That said...the number of deaths of LTC residents in NY is no greater than Florida for instance ,,,and considering the fact that NY got hit so hard you would expect it to be higher.

It's not...no matter what figures you use.

That was CDC policy retard.

You are a liar. Why are you lying to try to cover for Benito Cuomo's murders?

 

[Lesh]

So let's unbderstand here.

The number of deaths of nursing home patients in NY COUNTING those who died in hospitals, is 15,000. Total deaths in NY is 45,000. That's about 33%

Deaths nationwide of nursing home patients compared to the total is 40%. That means NY had a LOWER percent of deaths in NHs than the nation as a whole.

Now given the fact that NY got hit WORSE than any other state...and this supposedly disastrous policy...you would expect that per centage to be HIGHER...wouldn't you.

Like a LOT higher.

But it's not.

Something doesn't add up

When you kill a shit-ton more people in your state overall, the percentage you kill in nursing homes goes down.

Cuomo was a massive failure on all fronts.

Hey fuck face...you seem to not understand WTF you are talking about. Is that intentional or are you just stupid...

 

[Lesh]

Cuz science.
The guy is a total psychopath. Seriously, And everyone that carried his water and celebrated him for the last year has the same blood on their hands he does.
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Let me see... Placing COVID positive patients with COVID negative people who are highly susceptible to infection from the virus..... Cuomo really is that stupid or just that big of a psychopathic murderer... I'm going with the later as he was trying to make Trump look bad....

We've spent the last fucking year being told that we have to avoid every other human being in existence because of the danger of Covid, particularly the danger that we might pass it to some geezer or someone with a geezer in the family. NOW we're supposed to believe Cuomo could put people who quite definitely had Covid in a closed environment with a bunch of geezers, and it's not really that dangerous?

Could someone explain to me why, then, the entire world is social-distancing and wearing face diapers?

1. The covid patients Cuomo sent back to the nursing homes were no longer contagious, according to the CDC.

2. The nursing homes had the option of refusing to take the patients back, if they lacked the resources to care for them.

3. The nursing homes are, by law, supposed to have isolation units for infectious diseases, with negative air pressure systems (when the doors open - air rushes in, not out).

4. LTC patients, do not do well in general hospital settings. Hospitals are poorly equipped to deal with eldercare or memory care. LTC facilities which specialize in such care have both the resources and the staff to ensure proper care for the elderly.

Personally, if I had a family member in LTC, I would have gotten them the fuck outta that home the moment we saw the nursing homes getting hit. One of my friends went to court to get her former MIL out of a home that already had cases. Ultimately, 74 people died in that nursing home. Her former MIL is now living happily with my friend, and their family. They all seem to be quarantining together. When this ends and we get back to living and working again, my friend will not be able to continue to care for her MIL. She travels extensively in her work - and is often out of the country for a month or more at a time, but until that happens, they will continue to care for her.

My DIL is a nurse at a "for profit" nursing care facility in the city where they live. They had cupboards full of PPE here. There were never shortages of PPE in Canada. At her home, the staff were told NOT to wear masks, or PPE, so not as to "frighten" the patients. And yes, there was a major outbreak at this home.

Yes, social distance and mask wearing works. It worked here, last spring, and combined with our post-Christmas lockdown, it's working again with our second wave: Our schools would have re-opened yesterday, if not for the Snow Day!!!

On an unrelated note, I am saddened and appalled that children and teachers are now required to attend e-learning classes on Snow Days. Snow Days spent at the hill behind the local high school football field with my friends toboganning, making snowmen, snow angels, snow forts, and having snowball fights, and then going home and my Mom making us hot chocolate, are some of the best childhood memories I have. Forcing children indoors to sit at a computer during a snow day is wrong on every level. I applaud those parents who played hooky from eclasses and built a snow fort in the front yard, took their kids ice fishing, tobogganing, or made a snowman.

1. The covid patients Cuomo sent back to the nursing homes were no longer contagious, according to the CDC.

Link?

I believe he is wrong.

 

[Lesh]

That was CDC policy retard.

It WAS CDC policy stupid. Previously documented on this thread

 

[Care4all]

Cuz science.
The guy is a total psychopath. Seriously, And everyone that carried his water and celebrated him for the last year has the same blood on their hands he does.
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Let me see... Placing COVID positive patients with COVID negative people who are highly susceptible to infection from the virus..... Cuomo really is that stupid or just that big of a psychopathic murderer... I'm going with the later as he was trying to make Trump look bad....

We've spent the last fucking year being told that we have to avoid every other human being in existence because of the danger of Covid, particularly the danger that we might pass it to some geezer or someone with a geezer in the family. NOW we're supposed to believe Cuomo could put people who quite definitely had Covid in a closed environment with a bunch of geezers, and it's not really that dangerous?

Could someone explain to me why, then, the entire world is social-distancing and wearing face diapers?

1. The covid patients Cuomo sent back to the nursing homes were no longer contagious, according to the CDC.

2. The nursing homes had the option of refusing to take the patients back, if they lacked the resources to care for them.

3. The nursing homes are, by law, supposed to have isolation units for infectious diseases, with negative air pressure systems (when the doors open - air rushes in, not out).

4. LTC patients, do not do well in general hospital settings. Hospitals are poorly equipped to deal with eldercare or memory care. LTC facilities which specialize in such care have both the resources and the staff to ensure proper care for the elderly.

Personally, if I had a family member in LTC, I would have gotten them the fuck outta that home the moment we saw the nursing homes getting hit. One of my friends went to court to get her former MIL out of a home that already had cases. Ultimately, 74 people died in that nursing home. Her former MIL is now living happily with my friend, and their family. They all seem to be quarantining together. When this ends and we get back to living and working again, my friend will not be able to continue to care for her MIL. She travels extensively in her work - and is often out of the country for a month or more at a time, but until that happens, they will continue to care for her.

My DIL is a nurse at a "for profit" nursing care facility in the city where they live. They had cupboards full of PPE here. There were never shortages of PPE in Canada. At her home, the staff were told NOT to wear masks, or PPE, so not as to "frighten" the patients. And yes, there was a major outbreak at this home.

Yes, social distance and mask wearing works. It worked here, last spring, and combined with our post-Christmas lockdown, it's working again with our second wave: Our schools would have re-opened yesterday, if not for the Snow Day!!!

On an unrelated note, I am saddened and appalled that children and teachers are now required to attend e-learning classes on Snow Days. Snow Days spent at the hill behind the local high school football field with my friends toboganning, making snowmen, snow angels, snow forts, and having snowball fights, and then going home and my Mom making us hot chocolate, are some of the best childhood memories I have. Forcing children indoors to sit at a computer during a snow day is wrong on every level. I applaud those parents who played hooky from eclasses and built a snow fort in the front yard, took their kids ice fishing, tobogganing, or made a snowman.

Liar. Cuomo made it a REQUIREMENT that nursing homes take in sick ChiCom Flu patients. They could not refuse.

Does it make you feel excited to lie for a mass murderer?
Leftard NBC:

At a NY nursing home forced to take COVID-19 patients, 24 residents have died

“It’s reckless and careless,” said the granddaughter of a 96-year-old man whose family withdrew him from a Long Island nursing home.

www.nbcnews.com

You obviously did not read your linked article in full....

 

[Cecilie1200]

Liar. Cuomo made it a REQUIREMENT that nursing homes take in sick ChiCom Flu patients. They could not refuse.

That was CDC policy retard...and nursing homes that could NOT meet the criteria could refuse those patients.

The problem is that those LTC facilities were SUPPOSED to have the ability to meet that criteria and refusing re-admission exposed that failure.

That said...the number of deaths of LTC residents in NY is no greater than Florida for instance ,,,and considering the fact that NY got hit so hard you would expect it to be higher.

It's not...no matter what figures you use.

That was CDC policy retard.

You are a liar. Why are you lying to try to cover for Benito Cuomo's murders?

If what Cuomo did was "CDC policy", how come every other state didn't do it, and didn't get the same horrific results? It's almost like he did something completely different from the rest of them, or something.

 

[Nostra]

These are very sick creatures.

So you can’t rebut anything that we’ve posted. You can just sit there and post that we are evil and awful because we refuse to believe your lies.

Real life doesn’t work this way. When your lies are completely debunked, you don’t get to pretend your BS isn’t total and utter bullshit.

I find it utterly deplorable that you continue to smear, vilify and discredit those who have actually worked very hard to reduce the loss of life, based on whether there’s a D or an R after their name.

You continue to filter out all fact, reason, and logic and to continue to give us nothing but total BS.

Cuomos own staff has already refuted what you say you stupid clod.

Facts never slows down her lies.

 

[Nostra]

That was CDC policy retard.

It WAS CDC policy stupid. Previously documented on this thread

Nope. It wasn't "previously documented in this thread" because it is a blatant lie.

 

[Care4all]

These are very sick creatures.

So you can’t rebut anything that we’ve posted. You can just sit there and post that we are evil and awful because we refuse to believe your lies.

Real life doesn’t work this way. When your lies are completely debunked, you don’t get to pretend your BS isn’t total and utter bullshit.

I find it utterly deplorable that you continue to smear, vilify and discredit those who have actually worked very hard to reduce the loss of life, based on whether there’s a D or an R after their name.

You continue to filter out all fact, reason, and logic and to continue to give us nothing but total BS.

Cuomos own staff has already refuted what you say you stupid clod.

"Unnamed sources" in a NYPost article is not exactly a reliable source:

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At most Cuomo is reasonably accused of only listing people who died in nursing homes in his numbers. Nursing home residents who got sick at the LTC facility and transferred to hospitals were not counted in the LTC numbers, and in being slow to correct the numbers when this was learned.

There are numerous other governors who have been less than forthcoming about their nursing home numbers too, including DeSantis and Greg Abbott from Texas. DeSantis went so far as to try to lay criminal charges against the whistleblower who outed his numbers, and not a whisper from you clowns. I lay all of these cover ups at the feet of Donald Trump who politicized a public health crisis and attacked anyone who "made him look bad".

Nine Democrat Assembly members say Cuomo is guilty of obstructing justice. Are they all liars?

Not the thread topic. There is another thread on Cuomo and the number of nursing home death count.

 

[Lesh]

If what Cuomo did was "CDC policy", how come every other state didn't do it, and didn't get the same horrific results?

Virtually all states that got hit with covid in those early months DID do that.

Cuomo is simply the current "target".

As far as "horrific results"?

Find states that didn't also have massive LTC facility deaths

 

[Care4all]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.

What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?

Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.

Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....

Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.

Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.

Cuomo's claims are lies. Why can't you get that? His own party is turning on him.

Because this thread is about Cuomo stating he followed the federal Guidelines
when they admitted covid patients to nursing homes.

How the number of deaths were reported is what Dems are upset with him for, and NOT the topic of this thread.... if you want to only talk about the numbers reported by him, GO TO THAT THREAD.

 

[Lesh]

Cuomo and other governors were following guidelines issued by the federal gvt. This guidance was issued early in 2020, several times.... beginning in February/March last year...

Trump Administration Issues Key Recommendations to Nursing Homes, State and Local Governments | CMS

Today, at the direction of President Trump, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), in consultation with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), issued critical recommendations to state and local governments, as well as nursing homes, to help mitigate the spread of the...

www.cms.gov

Today, at the direction of President Trump, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), in consultation with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), issued critical recommendations to state and local governments, as well as nursing homes, to help mitigate the spread of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) in nursing homes. The recommendations build on and strengthen recent guidance from CMS and CDC related to effective implementation of longstanding infection control procedures


------------------


To avoid transmission within nursing homes, facilities should use separate staffing teams for residents to the best of their ability, and, as President Trump announced at the White House today, the administration urges nursing homes to work with State and local leaders to designate separate facilities or units within a facility to separate COVID-19 negative residents from COVID-19 positive residents and individuals with unknown COVID-19 status.

In this thread

 

[Care4all]

Liar. Cuomo made it a REQUIREMENT that nursing homes take in sick ChiCom Flu patients. They could not refuse.

That was CDC policy retard...and nursing homes that could NOT meet the criteria could refuse those patients.

The problem is that those LTC facilities were SUPPOSED to have the ability to meet that criteria and refusing re-admission exposed that failure.

That said...the number of deaths of LTC residents in NY is no greater than Florida for instance ,,,and considering the fact that NY got hit so hard you would expect it to be higher.

It's not...no matter what figures you use.

That was CDC policy retard.

You are a liar. Why are you lying to try to cover for Benito Cuomo's murders?

If what Cuomo did was "CDC policy", how come every other state didn't do it, and didn't get the same horrific results? It's almost like he did something completely different from the rest of them, or something.

It was CDC policy and other states did much much much worse with their nursing home covid deaths as a percentage of total covid deaths, within their states...than New York.

Links and articles as proof, have been posted in this thread to support the claims we make on it.

 

[Nostra]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.

What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?

Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.

Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....

Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.

Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.

Cuomo's claims are lies. Why can't you get that? His own party is turning on him.

Because this thread is about Cuomo stating he followed the federal Guidelines
when they admitted covid patients to nursing homes.

How the number of deaths were reported is what Dems are upset with him for, and NOT the topic of this thread.... if you want to only talk about the numbers reported by him, GO TO THAT THREAD.

Cuomo is a liar.

There was no CDC guideline saying nursing homes must admit China Flu infected people.

 

[BS Filter]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.

What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?

Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.

Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....

Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.

Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.

Cuomo's claims are lies. Why can't you get that? His own party is turning on him.

Because this thread is about Cuomo stating he followed the federal Guidelines
when they admitted covid patients to nursing homes.

How the number of deaths were reported is what Dems are upset with him for, and NOT the topic of this thread.... if you want to only talk about the numbers reported by him, GO TO THAT THREAD.

Make me.

 

[Nostra]

Cuomo and other governors were following guidelines issued by the federal gvt. This guidance was issued early in 2020, several times.... beginning in February/March last year...

Trump Administration Issues Key Recommendations to Nursing Homes, State and Local Governments | CMS

Today, at the direction of President Trump, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), in consultation with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), issued critical recommendations to state and local governments, as well as nursing homes, to help mitigate the spread of the...

www.cms.gov

Today, at the direction of President Trump, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), in consultation with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), issued critical recommendations to state and local governments, as well as nursing homes, to help mitigate the spread of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) in nursing homes. The recommendations build on and strengthen recent guidance from CMS and CDC related to effective implementation of longstanding infection control procedures


------------------


To avoid transmission within nursing homes, facilities should use separate staffing teams for residents to the best of their ability, and, as President Trump announced at the White House today, the administration urges nursing homes to work with State and local leaders to designate separate facilities or units within a facility to separate COVID-19 negative residents from COVID-19 positive residents and individuals with unknown COVID-19 status.

Nowhere in there does the CDC say nursing homes must admit China Flu infected people from hospitals.

To find that language, go see Benito Cuomo's order with his signature on it.

 

[Lesh]

Nowhere in there does the CDC say nursing homes must admit China Flu infected people from hospitals.

To find that language, go see Benito Cuomo's order with his signature on it.

Other than

Today, at the direction of President Trump, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), in consultation with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), issued critical recommendations to state and local governments, as well as nursing homes, to help mitigate the spread of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) in nursing homes. The recommendations build on and strengthen recent guidance from CMS and CDC related to effective implementation of longstanding infection control procedures


------------------


To avoid transmission within nursing homes, facilities should use separate staffing teams for residents to the best of their ability, and, as President Trump announced at the White House today, the administration urges nursing homes to work with State and local leaders to designate separate facilities or units within a facility to separate COVID-19 negative residents from COVID-19 positive residents and individuals with unknown COVID-19 status.

Jesus stupid...

 

[westwall]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.

What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?

Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.

Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....

Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.

Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.

Cuomo's claims are lies. Why can't you get that? His own party is turning on him.

Because this thread is about Cuomo stating he followed the federal Guidelines
when they admitted covid patients to nursing homes.

How the number of deaths were reported is what Dems are upset with him for, and NOT the topic of this thread.... if you want to only talk about the numbers reported by him, GO TO THAT THREAD.

And HE'S LYING!

 

[Nostra]

Nowhere in there does the CDC say nursing homes must admit China Flu infected people from hospitals.

To find that language, go see Benito Cuomo's order with his signature on it.

Other than

Today, at the direction of President Trump, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), in consultation with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), issued critical recommendations to state and local governments, as well as nursing homes, to help mitigate the spread of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) in nursing homes. The recommendations build on and strengthen recent guidance from CMS and CDC related to effective implementation of longstanding infection control procedures


------------------


To avoid transmission within nursing homes, facilities should use separate staffing teams for residents to the best of their ability, and, as President Trump announced at the White House today, the administration urges nursing homes to work with State and local leaders to designate separate facilities or units within a facility to separate COVID-19 negative residents from COVID-19 positive residents and individuals with unknown COVID-19 status.

Jesus stupid...

Um, that is for people who are infected IN THE NURSING HOME, not people being sent in with the China Flu. You separate them from negative residents.

Learn to read, Halfwit.

 

[Gracie]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.

What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?

Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.

Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....

And spare us your excuses for that asshole. Nursing homes are for old people who need NURSING. You do NOT send patients with a spreadable disease there. Period.